r/Damnthatsinteresting Jul 16 '26

Video The Odyssey IMAX 70mm Setup

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u/sik_dik Jul 16 '26

That’s supposed to be almost 400 miles of film?

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u/Lentle26 Jul 16 '26 edited Jul 16 '26

Traditionally, movies are filmed on 35mm film where the film is pulled vertically so the width of the image is the width of the film. Vistavision was a 35mm film format that pulled the film horizontally instead so the width of the frame along the length of the film, giving you a larger image. Vistavision mostly died out as fine-grain film was introduced, and the larger frame size was unnecessary (and anamorphic lenses allowed for wider aspect ratios on traditional film formats).

70mm film is just like 35mm except bigger. 65 mm wide. IMAX takes this to the extreme by taking Vistavision's strategy on the larger 70mm film stock.

Let's assume this is 15-perf 70mm IMAX film, pulled horizontally, so it has a frame width of 70mm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:65_mm_film_(15-70).svg.svg) (though that is a coincidence since 70mm in the name refers to the film width, which is actually 65mm).

So with a movie run time of 172 minutes, 24 frames per second we can calculate film length as

seconds = 172 * 60 = 10320s

frames/s = 24

frame length = 70mm

10320 * 24 * 70mm = 17337.6 meters or 17.33 km or 10.75 miles.

Even if you're generous and adding some width between frames, we're so far off from 400 miles it has to be wrong.

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u/Lentle26 Jul 16 '26 edited Jul 16 '26

Yeah, that's probably where the original 400 miles comes from. What we're seeing is just one copy of the film.

Or someone saw this article where Nolan said he shot 400 miles of film during production
https://www.gamesradar.com/entertainment/fantasy-movies/christopher-nolan-says-he-shot-almost-400-miles-of-film-for-the-odyssey-including-four-months-on-the-open-sea/
It'd be quite impressive to get it all right on the first go, and every frame made it into the final film.

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u/Mammoth_Yoghurt4241 Jul 16 '26

On set for Oppenheimer they actually sometimes did rehearsals right before the take, because they only have about 60-90 seconds of film in the camera and they essentially had a pit crew come in to replace the film as fast as they could for every 1-3 takes. But there were definitely takes/camera angles we did that didn’t make the Final Cut. And each take I was thinking that if I sneezed, it would cost the production $10,000+ for another take. 😂 But it was really impressive to see.

*Two days on set as a BG Actor.

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u/lenolalatte Jul 16 '26

IDK if you'd have the answer but how does editing and cutting this film/any 70mm IMAX film work? i could google it but i might get a more enjoyable answer here heh

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u/sqigglygibberish Jul 17 '26 edited Jul 17 '26

https://youtu.be/SYkAWTmpTBc?is=35sE18IPYTVHLSRy

Adam Savage doing a visit to part of the process, super interesting

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u/lenolalatte Jul 17 '26

oh hell yeah. that video popped up on my feed but never watched it. now i will!

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u/sqigglygibberish Jul 17 '26

It’s fascinating - and I think he has a couple more about other parts of working with 70mm/large format film

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u/coccixen Jul 16 '26

I saw a short of Christopher Nolan answering the question, couldn't find the one I saw but here's another one reposted: https://youtube.com/shorts/8dkYDpkzeMs

TLDR;

  • original physical film is scanned
  • edited digitally
  • original physical film is then cut and glued fallowing the digital edit references
  • new physical film is printed with colour correction

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u/lenolalatte Jul 17 '26

oh wow, cut and glued hahah. doing that must be a pretty fun job

thanks!

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u/SordidDreams Jul 16 '26

It'd be quite impressive to get it all right on the first go, and every frame made it into the final film.

You'd need Werner Herzog for that, not Christopher Nolan.

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u/wonkey_monkey Expert Jul 16 '26

You have to watch it from every seat too.

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u/FardoBaggins Jul 16 '26

nolan actually finished early and underbudget. which is really one of the main things that you want for any director a studio would hire. of course it helps if the director's name is christopher nolan.

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u/ibanezerscrooge Jul 16 '26

either that or it's the total footage of everything that he shot?

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '26 edited Jul 16 '26

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u/im_just_thinking Jul 16 '26

And that's what every IMAX theater gets?

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u/Vesper_0481 Jul 16 '26

True IMAX theaters.

Some market themselves as IMAX, but aren't really, around the world.

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u/Newone1255 Jul 16 '26

There are only 41 of them in the world as well

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u/scottjeffreys Jul 16 '26

And somehow my city of Grand Rapids has one of them.

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u/endlessfight85 Jul 16 '26

My museum has one but they only show documentaries.

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u/Assassin4Hire13 Jul 16 '26

Right?! Imagine my surprise when I googled if there even was a 70mm imax in MI and saw GR of all places had one of the 41 nationally.

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u/Monsieur_Krabs Jul 16 '26

...how did I not know this? That's not too far away from me

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u/Small_Insect_8275 Jul 16 '26

Well this has ruined my day, just checked the one I’m going to on Sunday and it appears to be a liemax

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u/tankerkiller125real Jul 16 '26

The only real IMAX in my region is a science center. They do sometimes show new movies, but Oddesey apparently isn't one of them. Oppenheimer was though.

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u/Eightball007 Jul 16 '26

I learned about "LieMax" the hard way recently. It was so disappointing.

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u/Lentle26 Jul 16 '26

No, each True 70mm IMAX theater only gets 10 miles of film.

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u/Galumpadump Jul 16 '26

Its crazy how many people still think there local AMC or Regal has true IMAX. I live in the Portland Metro I tell all my buddies that that have to go to Seattle or SF to get to the closet real IMAX screens. The lieMAX screens are better than nothing but not the same massive screen experience.

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u/Doomsayer189 Jul 16 '26

Its crazy how many people still think there local AMC or Regal has true IMAX

I mean, that's because theaters and imax itself purposefully distort what it means in order to cash in on the brand name. Like, I'm not gonna blame audiences for thinking a theater is imax when imax is telling them it is.

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u/Galumpadump Jul 16 '26

My comment wasn’t to shame people. I totally get that. It’s more to highlight the lack of education around it. I totally understand how someone culd be confused by the messaging and branding

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u/sync-centre Jul 16 '26

How many Imax films these days are shown using film VS digital?

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u/talltime Jul 16 '26

Full size ones.

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u/wimpires Jul 16 '26

Only 70mm IMAX, of which there are only roughly 30 or so around the world. (Almost) Everywhere else is digital.

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u/im_just_thinking Jul 17 '26

TIL. I will always call the theaters in my area "fake IMAX" now thanks

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u/UntitledNumber Jul 16 '26

And I would watch 400 miles...and I

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u/sik_dik Jul 16 '26

Would watch 400 more

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u/litterboxhero Jul 16 '26

Well, it is so thin you can see through it. :)

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u/MikeTidbits Jul 20 '26

No, more like 10 miles.