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r/Fantasy_Football 10h ago

 Discussion Mythbusters #7: Should You Burn Waiver Priority on a Week 1 Breakout?

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Every year, someone comes out of nowhere in Week 1, puts up 20+ fantasy points, and immediately becomes the guy everyone wants on waivers.

Sometimes it's Puka Nacua or Kyren Williams.

Usually... it isn't.

So I went through 10 seasons of weekly fantasy data (2016–2025) to see what actually happens to these players after Week 1.

Methodology

I used historical 12-team PPR ADP and defined a "late-drafted breakout" as:

  • ADP 120+
  • QB: Top-12 Week 1 finish
  • RB: Top-20
  • WR: Top-20
  • TE: Top-12

That produced 201 Week 1 breakouts: 45 QB, 39 RB, 62 WR and 55 TE.

Then I tracked Week 2, Weeks 2–8, Weeks 9–17 and the player's full rest-of-season positional finish.

First finding: the regression is immediate

The average breakout player scored:

Week 1: 19.51 PPR points
Week 2: 12.03

Only 32.8% immediately repeated their breakout-level positional finish in Week 2.

But here's where it gets interesting:

84.6% eventually had at least one more breakout-level week.
52.2% had at least three more.

So Week 1 actually is telling us something.

The problem is that it seems much better at identifying players capable of producing more big weeks than identifying season-long fantasy starters.

QB — 45 breakouts

Of the 45 late-drafted QBs who finished Week 1 Top 12:

15.6% → ROS QB1–6
11.1% → QB7–12
26.7% → QB13–24
46.7% → QB25+

So 26.7% became Top-12 QBs for the rest of the season.

And more than 91% eventually had another Top-12 week, while 62.2% had at least three more.

Some pretty good names came out of this group:

Patrick Mahomes (2018) — ADP 122 → QB1
Matt Ryan (2016) — ADP 150 → QB2
Baker Mayfield (2024) — ADP 139 → QB5
Alex Smith (2017) — ADP 181 → QB5
Carson Wentz (2017) — ADP 132 → QB6

The problem is replacement value. In a one-QB league, even a legitimate breakout QB isn't necessarily worth burning your #1 waiver priority.

RB — 39 breakouts

This was much uglier.

Only 9 of 39 (23.1%) became an RB2 or better for the rest of the season:

5.1% → RB1
18.0% → RB2
15.4% → RB3
61.5% → RB37+

So nearly 2 out of every 3 late-drafted Week 1 RB breakouts didn't even finish inside the Top 36 afterward.

But here's why we keep chasing them:

Kyren Williams (2023) — ADP 179 → RB6
James Conner (2018) — ADP 169 → RB8
Phillip Lindsay (2018) — ADP 231 → RB13

Those are potentially season-changing waiver claims.

I also split the RBs by Week 1 usage.

The higher-usage half averaged 9.50 PPG ROS versus 8.93 for the lower-usage half, and 95% of the high-usage group eventually produced another breakout week.

So my RB takeaway became:

Don't chase the touchdown. Chase the workload change.

WR — 62 breakouts

This was probably the biggest surprise.

Of 62 late-drafted WRs who finished Week 1 Top 20:

1.6% → WR1
9.7% → WR2
14.5% → WR3
74.2% → WR37+

Only 7 of 62 — 11.3% — became Top-24 WRs for the rest of the season.

And out of the entire 10-year sample...

Only ONE became a rest-of-season WR1.

Puka Nacua.

2023 ADP: 152
Week 1: 21.9 PPR
Week 2: 30.1
Weeks 2–17: 17.5 PPG
ROS finish: WR7

Puka wasn't evidence that every Week 1 WR breakout should be chased.

He was the exception that makes us want to chase every Week 1 WR breakout.

TE — 55 breakouts

And then TE went the opposite direction.

Of 55 late-drafted TEs who finished Week 1 Top 12:

20.0% → TE1–6
10.9% → TE7–12
30.9% → TE13–24
38.2% → TE25+

So 30.9% became Top-12 TEs for the rest of the season.

Using PPG instead of total points produced almost exactly the same answer: 32.7% of qualifying TEs were Top 12 in ROS PPG.

And unlike WR, Week 1 opportunity actually mattered.

High-usage TE breakouts:

9.19 PPG ROS

Low-usage:

7.12 PPG

The successful group includes:

Sam LaPorta (2023) → TE2
George Kittle (2018) → TE3
Darren Waller (2019) → TE3
Eric Ebron (2018) → TE4
Mark Andrews (2019) → TE5

So TE might actually be the position where reacting quickly to Week 1 usage makes the most sense.

One last thing: preseason ADP still mattered

I reran the analysis at increasingly deeper ADP cutoffs:

ADP 100+: 10.58 ROS PPG / 55.0% had 3+ more breakout weeks
ADP 120+: 10.27 / 52.2%
ADP 144+: 9.43 / 44.7%
ADP 168+: 8.87 / 41.2%

That's a pretty clean trend.

Week 1 doesn't erase what we knew in August.

A guy drafted 125th who explodes in Week 1 probably shouldn't be evaluated exactly the same as somebody drafted 220th who does it.

My takeaway

Week 1 is pretty good at identifying players capable of producing more useful weeks. It's much worse at identifying season-long starters.

Full study, player tables, methodology and sensitivity checks:

https://nfledgeline.com/insights/week-1-breakouts-waiver-priority-myth

Curious how everyone handles this:

Are you willing to burn the #1 waiver priority / big FAAB after Week 1, or do you usually want another week of evidence?

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Credit to u/Sptsjunkie for a great question: does the age or experience of a Week 1 breakout impact the likelihood that they sustain production for the rest of the season?

Ran some quick numbers on the same 201 Week 1 breakouts from the study, and there does appear to be a signa but it isn't as simple as young automatically being good.

The standout group was Year 2 players. Of the 27 second-year players in the sample, 48.1% went on to produce at a fantasy-starter level for the rest of the season, compared with 22.2% of rookies, 9.4% of Year 3 players, 22.0% in Years 4–5, and 19.3% for Year 6+. Second-year players also averaged 12.95 PPR points/game ROS, the highest of any experience group.

Age showed something similar. Breakouts aged 24–25 had a 35.7% ROS starter hit rate, versus 26.3% for players 23 or younger, 12.5% for ages 26–27, and 17.4% for players 28+.

Interestingly, though, age and experience by themselves had almost no overall raw correlation with ROS PPG. The Pearson and Spearman scores showed almost no real correlation. It may be a product have having relatively small sample sizes in the age and experience buckets. That said, skill positions are well known for having a sophomore bump, so the Year 2 conclusion may be informative.


r/Fantasy_Football 6h ago

 Discussion Am I overreacting for quitting over a sudden rule change?

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Long story short, I'm in a league with my brother's friends where the rule for years has been everyone gets one free keeper that they can only keep one year.

This has created potential for super teams, last year Barkley, Gibbs, ARSB, Jamar chase, Robinson and CMC were all round 0 keepers.

This year, a ton of great players are being released, and only 3/10 of us have a first round caliber player eligible to keep. I have James Cook.

Today, four days before our draft, our commissioner announces it's more fun if all players are available and no more keepers. His best eligible keeper is Trey McBride.

I'm pissed that we've allowed super team potential for years and now that the commissioner doesn't have one we're getting rid of it. There's a substantial buy in for this league as well, and we haven't determined draft order yet.

Am I overreacting if I leave the league? I'm worried if I get a bad draft position and have a bad year and watch Cook have a league winning season it's gonna sour the whole season for me.

Clarification: There was a vote for the change, but it was literally 3-7 along the lines of teams with a first round pick keeper and teams without


r/Fantasy_Football 2h ago

 Discussion What’s the worst fantasy football punishment you’ve seen/done?

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It’s time for our dynasty league to create punishments and just curious on what y’all have seen as the absolute worst/funniest, etc punishments out there


r/Fantasy_Football 10h ago

Player Discussion 5 Dark-Horse Fantasy Football WR1 Candidates

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Could any of these five receivers finish as the overall WR1 in fantasy football this year? Which players are you targeting in your upcoming drafts?


r/Fantasy_Football 2h ago

Questions should i trade puka? 10 man full ppr

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I just got offered the following:

i receive: JT & zay

they receive: puka & josh jacobs

we play in a start 7 league

this is my current team

Kyler Murray
Josh Jacobs
Quinshon Judkins
Jaylen Warren
R.J. Harvey
MarShawn Lloyd
Justin Jefferson
Puka Nacua
Marvin Harrison Jr.
Jordan Addison
Chris Godwin Jr.
Jayden Reed
Brock Bowers


r/Fantasy_Football 1h ago

Questions Keeper question: Etienne vs Rice for value?

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Context:
It’s a half PPR league with 10 players and 1 keeper from the 3rd rd or later the prior season. I drafted Rashee Rice in the 7th rd and Etienne in the 10th rd last year.

With keeping either, we lose the pick from two rounds earlier this year.

It’s a fairly competitive league, with many people doing lots of research before hand.

So here’s the Q:
Keep Rice and lose my 5th round pick?
OR
Keep Etienne and lose my 8th round pick?


r/Fantasy_Football 6h ago

Player Discussion Who to start: Jamo vs Odunze for WR2

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My WR2 battle is not ideal, who should I start. This is a 12 man league btw. I like Rome more, he definitely was getting more looks before his injury but Jamo got way more home run potential.


r/Fantasy_Football 20h ago

Player Discussion Josh Allen # 1 overall!?!?! Am I crazy????

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So draft is tomorrow night and I have the #1 overall pick

It’s a 10 team Full PPR league with some buddy’s. This year we have gotten rid of the DST and added a super flex. So I know people are gonna grab QB’s quick. Like 1st and second round.

Am I crazy for picking Josh Allen with the first pick? With our setting he is projected like over 900 points and Gibbs is projected like 400 and some change.

I am afraid if I don’t get him by the time the end of the second round all the duel threat QBS will be gone.

I just don’t know what to do as I’ve never played super flex. Any help will be appreciated!!!!


r/Fantasy_Football 8h ago

Player Discussion What are we thinking of Lloyd? Specifically him vs Dowdle?

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Have seen a lot of posts around Lloyd, but I’m getting a potential offer for him and I’d give up Dowdle.

My RBs are Henry, Breece, Dowdle, and Gainwell.

Part of me wants to take the chance due to my RB room, but if he is a bust my flex spot is kinda in limbo between Gainwell and Wandale. 14 team league ppr.

How are we ranking Lloyd?


r/Fantasy_Football 24m ago

Questions Is having Bijan and Drake London a problem?

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Drafted Bijan at the 1.02, and London fell to me at the 2.11 so I felt like I had to take the value. Should I try to move off London or do you think I’m fine having both guys on my team?


r/Fantasy_Football 43m ago

Questions 12tm 2 flex full PPR drafting 1.01

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My draft is tonight, drafting 1 overall and going with Gibbs any strategies, suggestions for 2 flex 12 team league?


r/Fantasy_Football 1h ago

 Discussion How do PPR RB Rankings Change if you also do .2 / Rushing Attempt

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Play in a format that is full PPR then every rushing attempt is .2 points for every player as well.

How would this change your RB rankings for the high volume attempts players such as Henry and Taylor?


r/Fantasy_Football 5h ago

Questions Do I drop purdy to stream Jax against cle

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First time fantasy player I have J.Allen already and I have Houston so I’m just wondering what I should do thanks


r/Fantasy_Football 7h ago

Questions Bijan for Nico, Wilson & Swift?

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12 team ppr league for reference, the guy who wanted Bijan has Gibbs so I imagine he's just wanting a monster rb room. Normally don't like liquidating a player into multiple but he seems to be giving good value, I'm just worried I'm undervaluing these top top guys. He came to me with Nico, Garrett wilson and swift for Bijan. I currently have charbonnet on IR so would only need to drop 1 player. My wr room is Adams Evans and Godwin with a few gambles on my bench, rb room is Bijan dobbins and marks. Would be incredibly light at rb but could hopefully trade with my depth later season - also kinda gambled but I liked the range they fell to and ended up with bowers, mcbride AND Warren so could wait until TE injuries and try to offload one of them for an rb


r/Fantasy_Football 5h ago

Questions ISO 1st Round Input/Advice- Need by Thursday

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I’m keeping Burrows, Javonte Williams, Chase Brown, LB3, and Loveland in my keeper draft.

I’ve got the 4th overall pick. Gibbs and Bijan will definitely be gone by the time it gets to me. My guess is I’ll be left with Saquon, CMC, and AJ Brown as my top 3 choices. Who does your collective wisdom suggest that I draft?


r/Fantasy_Football 5h ago

Player Discussion Need advice for my upcoming #1 pick

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Hello! Let me start off by saying that I genuinely appreciate your feedback regarding my fantasy draft. I haven't won my league since 2014. Since then, I have been on the losing end of injuries, stat corrections, and player trajectory.

I'm in a 12-Man keeper league, and this year I find myself for the first time with the #1 Pick.

Keeper list is posted in the same order as the draft.

Myself - Kenneth Walker (4th Rd)

Team 2 - Laporta (4th Rd)

Team 3 - Puka (6th Rd)

Team 4 - Jaamar Chase (1st Rd)

Team 5 - JSN (4th Rd)

Team 6 - TBD (Probably Gibbs) (1st Rd)

Team 7 - Waddle (6th Rd)

Team 8 - JT (1st Rd)

Team 9 - Bijan (1st Rd)

Team 10 - Saquon (1st Rd)

Team 11 - Olave (7th Rd)

Team 12 - Chase Brown (9th Rd) (Crazy right?)

Thank you again for your input. I greatly appreciate it.


r/Fantasy_Football 1h ago

Questions Who to start in my 2 flex spots?

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Options for my flex are: Diggs, Sutton, Lloyd (now that Josh Jacobs is out), Tuten, and Concepcion. I keep going back and forth on which 2 are gonna go into my flex spots!

For context starters are:

Jalen Hurts
Kenneth Walker
Cam Skattebo
Ja’marr Chase
Nico Collins
Colston Loveland
Jordan Love (Superflex)


r/Fantasy_Football 5h ago

Questions Start or sit: Kyle Pitts or Jake Ferguson?

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I’m not into the Week to week best matchup typa deal mainly because it’s hard to predict for a tight end.

I’m picking one I feel like Ferg is a solid ass tight end. Cowboys throw the ball a lot. But Pitts is more relied upon in Atlanta. Should have a big role again. I’m leaning Pitts.


r/Fantasy_Football 1h ago

Player Discussion Trade Kyren and Kelce for Swift and Kraft? PPR. I have Likely on my bench as well.

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I’m super high on both Kraft and Swift but I know Kyren probably the best player in this deal. Thoughts?


r/Fantasy_Football 2h ago

Questions What’s the best loser punishment you’ve done

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The 12 of us have been best friends since childhood and were in our 30s now so we are open to funny and raunchy ideas. But nothing disrespectful towards the wives/husband. And there is one woman so nothing gender specific. And we all live in different parts of the country so nothing group oriented. I am the reigning champ and have to pick next years punishment before our draft tomorrow night and I am having decision fatigue.


r/Fantasy_Football 2h ago

Player Discussion 12tm Superflex .5ppr. Backup to Gibbs now that Pacheco is on IR

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4 votes, 2d left
Jacob Saylors
Sione Vaki

r/Fantasy_Football 6h ago

Player Discussion Who are you taking for WR this year? Full PPR

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81 votes, 2d left
Quentin Johnston
Makai Lemon

r/Fantasy_Football 2h ago

Questions Should I try to offload Kyren if I also have Puka?

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Ended up getting blessed with Puka at the 9th pick somehow. Third round the only RB I liked was Kyren (they were flying off the board).

Is it bad to put that much investment in the rams offense or should I just let it ride for now? Other rbs are Barkley, Price, Lloyd, White and Corum.