I don't know, guys. Trinity feels amazing, sure, but I can't find any comfortable second item option. I've tried Sundered Sky, Hullbreaker, BOTRK... more than 100 games with each one of them as second item, but they don't feel like a remarkable power spike.

I'm feeling better with AP and Hybrid Jax lately tbh. My go-to hybrid build is Trinity/Dusk and Dawn > Riftmaker > Sundered Sky > Sterak's > Zhonya's, and it's the one that works better for me.

Any advice?

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there was a post here some time ago that was an aligment chart of jax builds. i remember there was a full tank one with fimbulwinter and frozen heart that was lawful good (i think) and a shojin - rocketbelt - dnd W spam core that i think was chaotic good. i dont remember the title and i cant find it just from scrolling. i was wanting to go through and try all the builds out. help appreciated

Every patch its the same thing, he appears as one of the hardest counters to Jax and I'm not even sure why.

Mundo players typically build both warmogs and heartsteel. Jax builds BOTK to rip through his high health. He cannot kite you effectively because of your gap closer, his cleaver is much better against champions like Garen, Volibear or Darius.

Jax also really doesn't build health, which reduces the effect of his cleaver a lot, compared to people who build a lot of health into their kit.

Yet, for some reason, Jax always has a terrible winrate against him. Why is that?

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bronze 3, the other team was dookie but still cool.

Played around 500 games after a 5 years hiatus. I was silver back then, peaked gold V (back then there were 5 divisions). This season I was placed Bronze II. Jax has always been my main but I would play a lot of other champions. This time I decided to one trick Jax while I was in Silver, playing it even into hard matchups.

I binge watched Chippys guides (a challenger player) and every time I'd lose my lane I would watch youtube videos of the matchup I had just lost to see how to play it better and I improved dramatically (especially into Garen, Akali, Mordekaiser, Cho Gath). I still struggle into Illaoi and Kled. Somewhat surprisingly, I have always found Singed and Malphite to be easy, probably due to how they are played in low elo.

Here a clip of a sick play I did while I was gold II or III to celebrate :D

With the coming Sundered Sky nerfs the item is going to be absolute dogshit. What about going terminus second? It gives a lot of armor and MR and hybrid pen. Seems like a really good item on paper.

Hello !
I’ve been enjoying ap Jax a lot lately, made Jax so much funnier as the burst and whole lot of damage makes trades so much easier to manage
So I’m trying to climb exclusively with ap Jax
Except my itemization is kind of clunky
I always start dusk and dawn then a business zhonya/ nashor
I feel like i don’t necessarily go for the most optimal builds all the time
Could you guys guide me as to what is the core item pool for ap Jax and what are the items to take under any other situation ?

I have no problem getting a lead vs these 2 champs pre 6 but after 6 it feels like I just don’t get to play the game anymore and and up falling behind with how strong their ults and main spells (Morde Q, illaoi E) are at dueling

Welcome to the thirty Jax Matchup Discussion!

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Hi all, I've been playing jax for quite a while now, and have almost a million points of mastery accumulated on him. I've gotten to a point where I'm very confident in lane, and I feel like im able to consistently win or even stomp lane often. But the problem is, even if I leave lane with like a 4 kill lead, I can never seem to consistently translate that lead to help my team win teamfights. I struggle and die alot in teamfights, sometimes without even getting a kill, even when I'm supposed to be super strong. I just don't know what I'm supposed to be doing at all in teamfights, and what my role is in then in general. I know each fight is different, but are there any general rules I should be following to improve my baseline performance in teamfights? I really feel like my poor teamfighting performance is costing me alot of games where I should have been the one to carry my team to a win. I'm even considering just leaning heavily towards splitting instead of teamfights more, but I feel like that's just avoiding the issue.. I would appreciate any and all advice, and would like to know what personally helped you do better in teamfights (mindset changes, positioning etc).

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Man with last nerfs you could feel that the item is weaker but they are nerfing it AGAIN, what else can we buy as a second item?

Why do act like Jax is some sort of late game power house? Like, hes pretty good at splitting but that's about it. I feel like he's ok in the side lane and does terrible in teamfights. He takes forever to kill people and he has no self sustain as opposed to most duelists in the game.

Hi, I wanted to ask for some opinions. I’m a Diamond 4 Camille/Jax player, and I’ve noticed that Conqueror actually doesn’t feel bad at all.

I really like the extra healing in both the early and late game, and getting the stacks up feels really good. I was wondering how viable Conqueror actually is compared to Lethal Tempo and Grasp. Is it genuinely playable, or is it kinda troll? I barely see anyone running it.

Obviously, Lethal Tempo is GIGA strong in 1v1s, but Conqueror feels so damn good in teamfights. Could also just be placebo though lol.

Would love to hear your opinions, especially from people who have tried Conqueror vs. the other options.

Hi,

I went from emerald to low master with Jax, but now I cant abuse enemy mistakes anymore like in lower elo I had.

Matchups like GP, Mundo become so painfull to deal with.

I tried everything (build, runes), but after like 20 mundo games in low masters I want to quit Jax as OTP and maybe only use him as counterpick. Sure I could beat bad Mundo's at lower elo, or sometimes autofilled top, but dealing with a guy that is supposed to be "weak" in early and scale like a monster while he coutners me...

Or a fed APC who doesnt waste his CC like in low elo, but saves It to disable me or oneshot me.

Unless I have a good matchup, It feels like I would be better of playing tanks.

I even ordered a coaching, after that session... basically I have to play way better skill wise than the enemy pick or lose the game. Dont get me wrong, ofc I have to play better to advance, but the discussion was about that I have to play way better than my opponent on those matchups, that is what makes me sad. I'm happy with low master or high master, dont want to push for GM. So its more of a Stay in my elo but have fun thing which I struggle at. My coach told me about mistakes that I made in early to get a micro advantage and snowball with that microscopic advantage while the enemy Mundo player can do so many mistakes...

He showed me how my Ornn for example was granting me free LP (high winrate on Ornn) while I dont even learn that champ. He told me, that this is balanced because a perfect played Jax will make a Mundo struggle, however a average Jax will suffer.

So I either now start to play Jax now like an crazy OTP player and learn to play him more into the "high good" level or drop him as blind.

I can go 15/0 on non-counter/bad matchups but man... some matchups want me to quit or swap to a champ that can deal with such things.

The coaching helped me alot, but It kinda makes me want to play Jax less. The amount of work I have to put into him to make him work against those matchups seems so ... unfair.

I usually fish before baron spawn or when i loose lane but i get pinged and usually someone from enemy team comes to interrupt my fishing trip and try to kill me so i have bad scores .i am now master and since plat i have been fishing for good luck , now it became sort of a ritual of mine but now. I higher elos i cant do it , does anyone have better build for fishing, also when i switch to jungle for better pathing sometimes they take my camps but the usually don't so in jg i have ~54 ....i usually fish on other side of my starting buff and i have a huge OCD and have been diagnosed with autism and i can't continue my fishing journey without your help. As crazy as this sounds this is not a ragabait i have a serious problem and if any of y'all have some experience with jax fishing let me know , kudos!

The main issue with late game Jax is that his damage falls off pretty hard imo. I understand he won’t have god tier damage no matter the build without making him a glass cannon, but are there good items past Zhonya’s/DD in third slot that makes his damage scale better? Or am I just out of luck