r/LeopardsAteMyFarm 3d ago

"He needs to resign. That’s the bottom line.” Ranchers are outraged over Trump’s move to flood the market with 300,000 metric tons of discounted beef.

15.0k Upvotes

2.6k comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

62

u/Conscious-Quarter423 3d ago

and in future elections

20

u/isaiddgooddaysir 3d ago

I vote Democrat not because they are great but only better than the GOP. Both parties are captured by large corporations. We need people in office who are thinking about the middle class .

1

u/Astralpane 3d ago

Actually we need to support the Working Class because it's comprised of everyone BUT the rich

1

u/Oberon_Swanson 2d ago

Yeah I think anyone who still worries about the "middle class" still doesn't get it. I started worrying about Kamala's chances when she talked about it so much. If somebody is still living a 90s "middle class" lifestyle they are just fine. I know nobody likes to SAY they are "lower class" but a lot of people know that they as adults are not living the "middle class" lifestyle their parents could easily afford with easier jobs in their time. And when people say oh no, the MIDDLE class needs help, it's like yeah but how about the people who by definition need even more help?

1

u/mnemy 1d ago

Then I hope you voted in primaries, particularly this year. Because this has been the best chance that grass roots progressive candidates have had in memory. The corpo Dems need to be forced to side with workers or get forced out.

That all happens at the local level and in primaries first.

0

u/Infinite-Space-2395 2d ago

Good luck. Both sides just call them socialist and it works. Never mind that capitalist countries with social policies like Norway lead to happier more content people. Americans want to be stupid and angry.

-6

u/ACarepenter 3d ago

"We need people who care about the middle class, that's why I vote for blue-colored corporate party"

Dawg, what? You have to not vote for any of the corporate parties at all if you want that.

Your tactical voting is directly obstructing your strategic objective.

5

u/GonzoKata 3d ago

if all you're doing is 'tactical voting' then you're doing it wrong

Voting is the final act of what needs to be a long campaign of putting the right people to be voted for in the first place.

0

u/ACarepenter 3d ago

Bro that's literally all y'all do.

Like the only people I've seen actually DOING anything in ANY community to build a political base are the actual communists like RCP and ACP, and the god damn Libertarians.

And you're here preaching the same "we just really need to keep the Republicans out in this election" stuff I've heard since I was 11.

Like please, explain to me why I, an average joe, should hop on board with your specific strategy that involves checks notes voting for the other corporatist party that used my tax dollars to commit genocide in Gaza.

What's different this time? What progress have you made? Why aren't you showing up at disaster relief efforts, or neighborhood cleanups, or the free lunch program the church runs?

Like you can shit all over the Libertarians and the Communists, but at least I actually see those fuckers out and about in a context other than blocking traffic. And none of them are saying to do tactical voting.

3

u/PotatoMoist1971 3d ago

Yes. Libertarians and communists… the pinnacle of clueless policy makers.

How often do those systems truly work?

Thank god they are out there…. Effectively losing every fight and or failing countries on a grand scale.

2

u/ofWildPlaces 3d ago

You surely understand that in most states, there are no other non-GOP candidates on the ballot?

0

u/ACarepenter 3d ago

You can just do a write-in, bro.

I straight up voted for Deez Nuts in 2016

3

u/PotatoMoist1971 3d ago

This confirms that a bag of rocks has more intelligence that you.

0

u/ACarepenter 3d ago

Nah, you can fuck off. I voted in all the state and local elections.

Trump can ear my left ass cheek, but after the Dems straight up conspired to ice Bernie out, Killary would have to pry my vote from my cold dead hands.

I'd literally rather suck-start a shotgun than help the Democrats.

3

u/PotatoMoist1971 3d ago

Proud of you for voting in your local and state elections. Maybe I misjudged you.

But after your Bernie statement, it seems like I judged you properly.

Still crying about the establishment even though Hilary won more votes than Bernie.

If only you had a fucking brain you would have recognized it was more important to continue the legacy and work Obama had done then stamp your feet on the ground and whine of injustice.

1

u/SenoraRaton 3d ago

If only you had a fucking brain you would have recognized it was more important to continue the legacy and work Obama

They never stopped bombing children in the middle east, so his legacy never stopped.

1

u/SenoraRaton 3d ago

I would encourage you to not throw your vote away on a candidate who does not respond to your needs. Deez Nuts is silent on all matters.

Instead, consider voting for the most honest candidate there is. Vermin Supreme.
"A vote for me, is a throwaway vote!" - Vermin Supreme.

1

u/PotatoMoist1971 3d ago

To get to where you want, you need policy change at a small scale. Which can eventually snowball into grand policy change. To have any type of policy change you need to win elections. GTFO with your division rhetoric. Vote blue to steer this country back on track

1

u/ACarepenter 3d ago

Nah, I and most of the other people in this country, are ready to burn this whole place down if the corporatism isn't immediately eliminated.

You need OUR votes. You comply with OUR demands.

1

u/PotatoMoist1971 3d ago

Ahh, the old it’s my way or the highway. So how’s that working out?

There is a principle called “compromise” that our country was founded on. But you dunces are too focused on having EVERYTHING your way. To the ironic point that now NOTHING will go the way you want. What an absolute success of a clown show.

1

u/ACarepenter 3d ago edited 3d ago

Yeah, YOU compromise with ME. We have the power in this situation, and you can either comply or cry.

Bernie was the compromise, and y'all didn't want the deal. So now we're back to a Mexican stand-off.

And I'm willing to bet you pansy-ass blue-MAGA fuckers break first. That or the whole country does; then we're in a different kind of Mexican standoff, but my bet is still against you.

1

u/SenoraRaton 3d ago

https://youtu.be/FqRNnIMDkUY?si=S40DuYsqsrlndNpX

This is from 2006, never more relevant.

1

u/ACarepenter 2d ago

100%, sis.

I demand these bastards entirely sacrifice their interests for the public interest.

No wars, complete lifetime ban on stock trading for all elected officials, 90% reduction in the military budget, abolish the federal reserve, and nationalization of all oil, energy, communications, and transportation infrastructure.

Or the Dems can eat my left ass cheek, and then my right fist.

1

u/yosefballin 2d ago

"Nah, I and most of the other people in this country, are ready to burn this whole place down if the corporatism isn't immediately eliminated."

are ready to burn this whole place down

Ah a revolutionary accelerationist i see

1

u/dojo_shlom0 3d ago

this needs to change. like how Obama appealed to a lot more voters. I really hope democrats hit this nail on the head & have it locked in on how to appeal to republican voters, right now--at this critical moment.

republicans have failed them. betrayed them. betrayed The People. food has almost doubled in the last 2-3 years (beef & soda for example), all materials, all trading routes and alliances destroyed. taken years and they're still not releasing the epstein files. AND they confirmed todd blanche, who was the person to help keep them buried, who met with ghislane maxwell and took her from a maximum security prison, and moved her to a camp, 'for security reasons.' --as if moving her to a less secure prison makes any sense-what-so-ever.

lie after lie after lie, our economy is screwed, he has bombed over 9 nations, started the war in iran, caused the straight to be closed, drained our petroleum reserves to TANK BOTTOM, while causing the straight to be closed with their complete lack of respect and disregard for good faith negotiations.

no foreign actor could have done more damage to the united states thank diaper don and this republican party, right now: the whole lot of them. The House, The Senate, The SCOTUS 5-6. They have been fully complicit and The People have been lazy, and not willing to stand up for what they believe in. Where are all the 'don't tread on me' republicans, being surveilled as flock explodes setting up around the USA the last 2 years, and we have our 1st, 2nd, 4th, 12th and many more Constitutional amendments being violated.

It blows my mind what cowards republicans are. Democrats will have to stand up to israel too. This isn't a joke. 0 support for israel. go "america first" take their slogan, run with it and win. be smart. gain republican votes, they know they screwed up (some) so take advantage of the large number of democrats who were on the fence last time, the independent voters (WAY heavy leaning against trump rn) and republicans who are catching on to the lifelong fraud who has been lying to them since he could speak.

We can do better, but it takes a nation to do so.