r/LeopardsAteMyFarm 3d ago

"He needs to resign. That’s the bottom line.” Ranchers are outraged over Trump’s move to flood the market with 300,000 metric tons of discounted beef.

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u/PeyredB 3d ago

That's an important point. Most Democrats kind of felt for our small farmers (and ranchers in this case), wanted to help them succeed. But since they took a big steaming dump on that (and us) in the election, most of us are ready to just leave them to their fate.

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u/Active-Read-7097 3d ago

They have Boot straps right?

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u/Unique-Coffee5087 3d ago

Yeah, and as far as I'm concerned, they can boil them for a long time and eat them.

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u/PeyredB 3d ago

On a serious note, if you eat rotisserie chickens often, you can save up two or three carcasses and then boil them to make chicken soup.

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u/Complete-Tangelo1532 3d ago

Makes for a good stew

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u/PeyredB 2d ago

I hadn't tried stew - I've always broken in spaghetti to make chicken noodle soup.

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u/Substantial-Equal661 3d ago

Carl Weathers?

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u/Revolutionary-Oven46 2d ago

Baby, you got a stew going.

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u/PeyredB 3d ago

They certainly insist others must use them. All right guys, what's good for one is good for the other!

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u/dougmakingstuff 2d ago

It's kinda hard to have a lot of sympathy for somebody who gets special treatment all the way down, has millions of dollars in real estate and equipment, and still has sense of entitlement you can detect from space.

Hope owning the libs was worth it!

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u/Guilty_Advantage_413 2d ago

Yup that’s me and I have been saying it since 2016. I am tired of these farmers always dodging responsibility for their actions. As I said elsewhere no more burning Political Capital on Farmers they will never appreciate the help and will just want more. Fuck them.

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u/JGR03PG 3d ago

Do you think Democrats will break up the monopolies to help the farmers? It’s not just beef… all crops including rice and soy that suffered under both terms of tariff wars, need a better market to sell to. Some actually got better prices selling overseas that they don’t get anymore.

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u/bit99 2d ago

They might. It's crazy what happens when people enforce the law

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u/DC-Toronto 21h ago

Who wants to eat shitty rice from the US? Unless it’s really cheap no one wants that crap

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u/Smooth-Plate8363 2d ago

Unfortunately, Dem leadership & the establishment class of the Democratic Party serve the same donor class as the GOP. Their inability to meet this moment of American fascism is a feature not a bug. They are controlled opposition.

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u/IluvPusi-363 2d ago

But now you can get beef wholesale, cheap direct from the farmers that will need any cash they can get Before the auctions.

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u/Euphoric-Use-6443 2d ago

What could/can Dems do better? We all see our government going to shit! MAGAs still bought the lies & we're all suffering for it!

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u/MossadEpstein 3d ago

yeah cos letting them be taken over by corporations will end well for everyone.

not saying they deserve help, just saying it's a bit shortsighted to think the alternative won't be worse.

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u/PeyredB 3d ago

I know it will be worse when more small farmers are bought out by megafarmers. But they've made it clear over and over that this is what they will insist on. I know it's not what they really want, but it is what they will insist on voting for, while popping you the middle finger if you try to explain it to them.

You have the right to refuse medical assistance, even first aid. It's a dumb thing to do, but you have the right to do it. I take this as the same kind of thing, really. The hell with these guys. You want it that way? Fine.

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u/Vaping_A-Hole 3d ago

I feel the same way. They didn’t read about how Trump would hurt them. They knew cutting SNAP would hurt their own businesses. They turned the other cheek when he bailed out Argentina. They see migrants and their kids dragged to detention centers and did what about it? Nothing. They’re racists and can be easily conned by an idiot. Not worth my time. I can be a vegetarian, it’s ok by me.

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u/Current-Anybody9331 3d ago

I am willing to bet a not insignificant number of them had no idea SNAP was a benefit to farmers.

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u/Ashamed-Pound-3345 3d ago

Racism and blatant stupidity always gets in the way

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u/MossadEpstein 3d ago

So you think the likes of Bill Gates and Blackrock owning all of the land used for food production is going to work out for you?

I really think you're underestimating the kind of evil that's waiting with cash in their tendrils for farmers to fail.

The same evil that's behind all of this culture war shit, the same evil that's created the social divisions that led to all of this is standing ready to buy up all those assets and deprive you of food sources.

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u/Revolutionary-Swan77 3d ago

And yet people get angry when we say there shouldn’t the billionaires.

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u/MossadEpstein 3d ago

I'm convinced most of those "people" aren't even human beings they're just meat puppets with zero critical thinking skills and the ones online are straight up just bots.

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u/PeyredB 3d ago

Did you miss my first sentence? Here, let me repeat it.

I know it will be worse when more small farmers are bought out by megafarmers

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u/MossadEpstein 3d ago

You're underestimating how bad it will actually be, extremely and DANGEROUSLY underestimating it.

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u/Vaporlocke 3d ago

Good, they can suffer with the rest of us. Empathy fatigue is real and we're tired of always having to be the adult in the room.

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u/MossadEpstein 3d ago

I'm not asking you to Emphasise with ANY of them, I'm asking you to be strategic and look at the terrifyingly big picture that's the backdrop to everything wrong in our society.

Epstein class

Corporate power blocs

The Manipulative NGOs and sociopathic think tanks paid to dream up ways to fuck with us..

that's who we all should be focusing on destroying

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u/HelpmeObi1K 3d ago

I guess the good news there is the small farmer that has consistently voted for decades for the republican party will be bankrupt and destitute and won't be going to the polls without a home address to prove they're American citizens? It's a tough lesson all the way around, but I'd rather see these voters suffer directly than continue to watch the rest of us get ground into dust with zero repercussions to the ones that wanted everyone else to suffer.

To quote Melville, "Towards thee I roll, thou all-destroying but unconquering whale; to the last I grapple with thee; from hell's heart I stab at thee; for hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee"

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u/sheepebike9000 3d ago

Unrelated, but excellent quote dude.

I know far more about whaling from that one silly book than I ever, ever wanted to. But it's definitely profound.

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u/MossadEpstein 3d ago

I hope you like owning absolutely nothing and not being able to afford basic necessities and real food then, cos that's the end game if something isn't done about these predatory corporations, venture capitalist groups and investment giants like Blackrock.

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u/HelpmeObi1K 3d ago

By the time that situation gets to me my friend, this country will be embroiled in a violent revolution. I'm afraid that's what it's going to take to see any significant change that doesn't take generations to get back what the "Me" Generation has stolen from the populace. Our votes only help figure out which corporate overlords to serve, with VERY few exceptions, and will continue to do so as long as campaign financing is unlimited in scope. Right now only a handful of federal or state reps account for actually representing the people. The only way that changes significantly is through radical, immediate change or over decades of suffering majorities wanting to oust current leadership AND getting new leadership that doesn't end up getting corrupted. That's a tall order, but the alternative is a slow circling of the drain while 33% of the country suffers not enough to change their vote.

Two of my great uncles were farmers their entire lives and did well enough to pass on their land to their children, but the chances of that generation passing it on to their kids is slim at best and it has very little to do with a monopoly on meat packing. New equipment to keep a farm going has been priced out of the small farmer's price range and old equipment continues to be more scarce. It's like a startup auto company trying to get into a market - the big players just wipe them out before they can even get a toe hold unless they're backed by people with very deep pockets. Corporate farms can afford to sell their stock cheaply because they make money on volume. Selling 10k cattle is a far different game than selling 100. Same thing with crops.

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u/MossadEpstein 3d ago

I feel like we should seriously give open/direct democracy a proper try it's never actually been attempted at scale after all and god knows it can't possibly be worse than having elected Epstein class "representatives" or their billionaire technocrat backers calling all of the shots.

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u/HelpmeObi1K 3d ago

Yeah, but how do we get there? It's getting rigged harder and harder with every year and what little we had is getting chopped up or ruined. I feel like the only way to come back from this slow, inevitable ruin is for a catastrophic event that unites the working class. Not sure even then it would work long-term.

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u/MossadEpstein 3d ago

Yeah... I can't tell you what needs to be done here on reddit, but lets just say it's a very FRENCH solution that is realistically the only solution that could work.

it's not like we can vote our way out of this, demonstrably never going to work.

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u/BeaverMartin 3d ago

Not to be a negative Nancy but in most aspects of American life all the alternatives are worse. At some point the combination of inflation, enshitification, shrinkflation, etc seems to be the natural outcome of the system.

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u/MossadEpstein 3d ago

nah that's not being negative, that's just being honest.

Everything is fucked and it'll just keep getting worse because idiots will continue to act like voting will fix it when both the left and right wing of politics is entirely captured by billionaire technocrats and globalists... regardless of what country you live in.

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u/rgraz65 3d ago

They have continually voted for politicians that have made deregulation happen across so many businesses and stopped all efforts to protect consumers from monopolized markets. Because these politicians are getting into office with money from these monopolies via Citizens United allowing huge amounts to be put into campaigns, and with the loosening of campaign finance laws. Then, once they either decide to leave office, or get voted out, they go get positions or be put on the boards of many corporations making large amounts of money, depending a bit on how long they were in office and what they were able to push through. And way too often, they've had family members being employed by these companies, so their family will make a salary with part of that money actually going to the politician in some form or fashion. So they have created the problems that hurt the small farms, then the medium farms. All because of the culture wars they are voting for so they can inflict damage on those they hate, and they hate those people because of the brainwashing by corporations who want them mad at other shit so they pay less attention to the laws and regulations that are the donor class way of gaining the wealth and power grabbing to continue to make sure the government continues to allow them to gain more.