r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 8h ago

Meme needing explanation Petah?

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u/Classy_Maggot 7h ago

Germany tried that once. There's a reason the Weimar Republic lasted for about a decade

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u/samrus 6h ago

but they werent trying to curb deflation, they printed more money to pay debts to other countries. i imagine if we are trying to curb deflation then we'd increase the monetary supply by a calculated amount to not increase inflation too much

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u/wazeltov 2h ago

This concept is called quantitative easing (QE) and it doesn't always work. Though notably, it did work in '08 after the Great Recession.

Deflation cause people to be afraid of spending money because aggregate demand is much lower. It's certainly possible that QE doesn't fix consumer spending habits. Money is typically not given to people directly because that may cause separate issues. For example, some of the COVID era inflation was due to people receiving money directly from the government, which signaled to businesses that excess capital could get soaked up with price increases.

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u/Own_Policy8854 5h ago

We print money and inject it into the economy all the time. But wealthy people have made sure that they're the ones who get the injections. If the money we printed was, say, given to schools and used to build roads, we would have a more just society.

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u/CreBanana0 7h ago

No seriously. Why tf would you get hyperinflation if you are countering deflation?

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u/BurningTrashBarge 7h ago

You need the other nations that you trade with to not freak out when you magically just generate a whole bunch of new value.

It’s a lot easier to do when you have a gun to the world’s head. So it does and will happen in convoluted ways. But why it doesn’t happen anywhere else like Japan.

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u/layerone 5h ago

Well put, the world bares the pressure of the US Federal Reserve printing money. The US 40T debt it carried by the world.

This is because the US Dollar has been the reserve currency of the world.

People are so unaware of how good the USA had it before Orange started ruined all our socioeconomic ties around the world. He's vastly accelerated USD not being the world reserve currency anymore. US Citizen have no clue how much that will hurt us, it's unrecoverable too. Once USD loses that status, it will never get back.

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u/BurningTrashBarge 5h ago

Covid really underlined this for me. When things just kept ticking after everything went down cause they printed a bunch of money. The entire game is rigged in favour of keeping that established power structure in place.

If it ever stops being the reserve currency that’s it for the US empire. It’s a wonder everyone let the US have its way for so long, at the same time insane that the US is just ignorantly throwing it away now.

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u/rbrgr83 1h ago

He's vastly accelerated USD not being the world reserve currency anymore.

This is the intent. Crash our economy, buy up big swatches of wreckage for dirt cheap, and finally push your own crypto for further grift on the desperate.

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u/Little_Fox_9 1h ago

Why

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u/fishyexe 30m ago

Greed. We used to think greedy people were trash, now people idolize them.

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u/marketingguy420 3h ago

But we're not really printing money. We're borrowing money. Usually from ourselves. 80% of the debt is owned by US investors.

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u/MasterGrok 2h ago

Nonsense. When the fed does quantitative easing without a sufficient amount of tightening a shit ton of money is put into circulation that is created out of thin air. This absolutely happened over the last decade.

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u/marketingguy420 1h ago

It is put on a balance sheet as debt. The debt is purchased. At no point is money being created freely. The "reserves" created for banks to stabilize aren't circulated.

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u/Little_Fox_9 1h ago

How does that work? How can a country be indebted to itself?

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u/marketingguy420 1h ago

Institutional investors, banks, and regular people just buy treasuries.

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u/amitym 1h ago

Because printing new money normally goes with economic growth. If you print new money during economic contraction instead, you're making things worse in a different way.

There's a reason people call it a death spiral.

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u/HereWeGoYetAgain-247 1h ago

Look up Germany after WWI. 

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u/tedivm 32m ago

You don't, and it's what we did in 2008. We just call it quantitative easing instead of "printer go brrrrr".

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u/vertigo88 4h ago

You printed more money. More money in circulation. People know that the $1 you have today is worth less than the $1 printed tomorrow.

So bread prices increase based on that expectation. You buy bread, but it’s $1 more. How would the people buy more bread - by printing money. Cycle repeats. Hyperinflation.

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u/CreBanana0 53m ago

I am not stupid. If we have deflation you can just print a bit more money to counter it.

No need to print too much.

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u/tedivm 16m ago

People are treating you like an idiot, but this is literally how the federal reserve manages monitory policy.

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u/vertigo88 39m ago

So what happens when you print too much? How do you know what is enough?

Let me know how you intend to be the barometer of money supply.

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u/CreBanana0 32m ago

By looking at the inflation metrics???

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u/suhxa 2h ago

Also its self reinforcing. Inflation erodes the real value of tax revenue. This worsens the government’s budget deficit. The government then often finances that deficit by printing more money. That fuels more inflation, which erodes real tax revenue further, and so on

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u/ShibaLover227 6h ago

This isn't true. Weimar's economy was on the upswing for the better part of a decade when the Nazis took over. In fact, their economic recovery was largely hampered by the US stock crisis which halted loans

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u/Lydialmao22 6h ago

Thats not really what happened. Hyperinflation was only an issue early into Weimar Germany, certainly not what lead the whole Republic to fall. Hyperinflation was resolved years before the Nazis began to rise

Plus the hyperinflation was moreso an intentional tactic used to devalue their currency to such a point that they could effectively get out of paying reperations and the significant loans they took out from WWI, and then they made it worse by printing tons of money to support striking workers in the French occupied Ruhrland. The whole thing then spiraled out of control

Weimar like conditions are the result of deliberately destructive policies and a series of terrible circumstances. It shouldnt be considered anywhere close to the average or expected result of 'printing more money' because its far more complex than that

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u/Sarasfirstwish 6h ago

This is factually wrong. You’re confusing the hyperinflation crisis of 1923, which was a response to foreign policy, with the deflationary crisis of the Great Depression in Germany starting 1929.

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u/Traditional-Tap-2508 6h ago

Yeah that's not boxes of tissues

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u/Sad_Mouse_8251 4h ago

We did that in 2009-2011 with a high degree of success. I'd argue interest rates were kept too low for the time after and that is a reason we're having trouble fighting inflation now.

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u/1llDoitTomorrow 1h ago

Right. I read in a history book that it was cheaper to burn the money than to buy wood for a fire

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u/Square-Friend-9219 52m ago

Yes, but it wasn't only that. The Weimar Republic was a very functional democracy (by our standards - proportional representation is used in the Netherlands for example) that was unfortunately established in a country which had very recently been a monarchy. The Kaiser strategically abdicated to avoid blame for losing WWI. 

There were coups, terror attacks, assassinations, and street fights between the socialists, communists, monarchists, and Republicans. The republicans were outnumbered and unpopular because the Republic took the blame for the treaty of Versailles. 

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u/Nearby_Purchase_8672 23m ago

I thought accepting LGBT as people was what caused the Weimar Republic to fail

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u/Winnier4d 6h ago

No, the 1923 inflation wasn't an answer to deflation, wrong example.

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u/darkowas69 7h ago

I also remember one time I think zambia or SMTH(if I remember correctly) printed am insane amount of money for some reason I don't why like have some brain cells

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u/CykaBlyat_69 6h ago

Zimbabwe

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u/Pgaccount 6h ago

Zimbabwe.