r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 8h ago

Meme needing explanation Petah?

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u/ReaperTys 6h ago

This is literally happening with inflation

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u/KeyEntrepreneur5449 6h ago

It's just not happening "to" the investing class. Deflation is when they, the investors, are harmed. Which is why it's an actual problem, as opposed to ever rising prices with stagnant wages which just kills the poor and homeless so that's ok.

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u/Mr_Anonymous13 1h ago edited 28m ago

Deflation is actually good for the wealthy because they can afford to keep their money under the mattress.

Why take any risks with investing in businesses when you can just do nothing and watch your money increase in value over time? The reason people are incentivized to take risks and invest is because their money would otherwise lose purchasing power.

Workers, on the other hand, NEED to spend on basic needs. However, because spending/investing slows down, there’s lower demand for goods to be produced, and businesses need to lay people off.

Good luck paying for your basic needs when you don’t have a job. This turns into a feedback loop where people are spending even less on just the bare minimum and even more jobs are lost.

And I haven’t even mentioned debt yet. Yeah, that gets worse over time too, because the $100 that you owe someone is now worth more in value.

Governments issue bonds to fund infrastructure and cover deficits. Not only is government debt now a much bigger problem, but with less people working, there’s less revenue that can be collected with taxes.

And that’s how everything comes crashing down. Someone pointed out that people not believing in the dangers of deflation are like the flat-earthers of economics, and that’s a good way to put it.

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u/Command0Dude 3h ago

Different problem

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u/Zealousideal_Act_316 6h ago

No deflation is a systemic crissis, tech is a bad point becasue of optimization of costs and manufacturing. But think a 10$ shirt, it will cost 9$ the day after, then 8.50, then 8 etc why would you ever buy a shirt unless you absolutely have to?

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u/alphazero925 5h ago

why would you ever buy a shirt unless you absolutely have to? 

Because you have to but you've been putting it off because you couldn't afford it at $10

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u/serabine 4h ago edited 4h ago

The point is this:

Let's say you can afford a 10 buck shirt, but it hurts. But if you now know that prices are steadily going down, why wouldn't you hold out until it costs only 7 bucks? Then you would have 3 bucks left to spend on something else!

It finally goes down to 7, and you think, it went down so far, maybe if you wait a liiiittle bit longer it might drop a little more. If it stops dropping, you'll buy it at 7, but imagine it dropped to 5! You'd have like 5 bucks over!

And then it goes to 5, and maybe it will drop some more and it will be an absolute steal. You can wear the ratty shirt you have a little longer.

This is taking place over several weeks or even months, where you don't buy that shirt. And so do tons of other people trying to save money. Meanwhile the retail stores and manufacturers are freaking out because no one (meaning not enough) people are buying shirts and their revenue goes down. They have to stay afloat somehow. So layoffs. And suddenly the pool of people who need to watch their money and for whom 10 bucks for a shirt would hurt is much larger. Couple months ago, they had the income that they'd just go into a shop and pay whatever for a shirt, but money is tight now. But! Prices have been consistently going down, so they can wear that ratty shirt a bit longer, just to see if maybe prices go down further...

And this isn't just a shirt industry crisis. This happens simultaneously with all things everywhere around you. So you personally know ten people who have recently been laid off and can'tfind work because seeminglyno kne is hiring. So you fret about getting laid off at some point, so you try to safe and keep spending down. Thank got prices are steadily going down. If you wait a bit to buy that stuff you want, it will be much cheaper!

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u/Captain_Gardar 3h ago

So deflation would force the 1% to pool money back into their companies, but they lay people off instead not to lose a fraction of their money that already surpasses multiple countries' whole ass wealth.

Deflation is only 'bad' it looks like, because only the select few are worthy to hoard money, your regular Joe with minimal wage can kick rocks.

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u/eternal-limbo 2h ago

Even if then 1% were to pool their money into companies, it wouldn’t magically fix the problem.

People have expectations on inflation/deflation and that creates a self perpetuating cycle. Employees would be willing to accept less pay and consumers would be willing to continue delaying purchases, not to mention the various problems that would have caused deflation in the first place