r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 9h ago

Meme needing explanation Petah?

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u/StuartMcNight 9h ago

Low inflation might be the first step towards deflation. Many economists would argue that deflation is a worse situation for the economy because it leads to a sharp drop of consumption and therefore a huge recession follows?

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u/thevoidthatjerksback 8h ago

I doubt that anyone could explain this in a way where I would accept deflation as worse

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u/IrksomFlotsom 8h ago

Try and think of our global system as an engine that's purpose is to make fuel for itself. It needs to keep it's input above the output in order to keep powered on. As soon as the input drops below output the machine starts to slow down and can no longer sustain itself. The engine is not designed to slow down so it very quickly breaks down

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u/Gentle_Snail 8h ago edited 8h ago

Deflation can also result in a very negative feedback loop, the Great Depression was a deflation spiral for example.

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u/Mayor_Death 7h ago

Is deflation a cause or symptom, though? To me, it’s just a number, but I understand that it is more than that to various economic groups.

As far as I understand it, deflation indicates that prices are going down, which is a good thing to me individually.

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u/leconteur 7h ago

If you get to keep your job or customers.

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u/cheapdrinks 5h ago

Ok but after covid, prices skyrocketed compared to pre-covid levels and we got massive inflation. Wages didn't suddenly skyrocket at the same time, hiring rates didn't go through the roof, corporate profits did though. So why would prices suddenly returning to pre-covid levels require everyone to be fired and customers to disappear when the economy was working great before? Would it just be that companies would start mass layoffs to prevent a short term decline in quarter on quarter profits which would start a negative feedback loop?

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u/azac24 5h ago

Because of how corps react to lower prices. They would just lay everyone off. Deflation itself isn't the issue, it's how little protections actual working people have and how much incentive corps have to keep their stock price high. Being able to sell something for less means less profit for the corps which is a big problem for corp leadership. So the solution is to temporally increase profits by getting rid of staff.

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u/aFreshFix 5h ago

But they're already laying everyone off in a lot of industries despite inflation and record profits.

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u/New-Chimera 3h ago

That's because consumer spending is starting to go down and families are starting to cut back. So they have to either increase prices, which they're already doing and that's not working, so they have to cut costs, and the number one way for companies to do that is to cut employees.

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u/aFreshFix 3h ago

But record profits.

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u/New-Chimera 3h ago

Yes, the record profits are because they keep cutting the cost of labor by cutting off employees.

Sorry if my original comment didn't make sense. I'll try to explain it differently. Companies right now are raising prices. Every time a company raises prices, no matter the industry, people will stop buying it or buy less of it. But they need to keep making more profits, that's the American growth system.

So, they are continuously cutting more from the workforce, whether that is firing employees, laying them off, or replacing them with cheaper workers while letting go of all the better-paid ones. That way, the profits are steadily going up on a chart, but they are still laying off more and more people while raising prices.

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u/SteelCode 1h ago

To add; productivity has hit a sort of "critical mass" where corporations can over-produce goods (cheap) so easily that the only way they can cut the base expenses is to cut labor. There's no other way to increase profits in an over-saturated market.

Think about the constant "new flavor" for snack foods, beverages, fast food, etc. The market for the "standard" flavors is so saturated and the market tolerates only so much price increases before people stop buying - so by making their normal everyday product seem "limited" or "exclusive" they trick consumers into buying more..................

........when consumers are still buying less, the only other recourse is to cut those labor costs and over-work the remaining staff.

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u/handgwenade 1h ago

Stock buybacks have become new “putting money back into the business” lol

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u/LoudCommentor 23m ago

So...

Inflation means consumers have less spending power = employees get laid off to increase profits. 

And Deflation means revenue decreases = employees get laid off to increase profits? 

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u/LoudCommentor 21m ago

Which is so ridiculous. The more people you lay off the less people have money to put back into the economy. Meaning next quarter you're just going to have to do it again to keep the stock price up. 

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