Cos all he does is make the community look worse , i think hes actually loosing kuro money, (not much cos internet wars dont actually influence that much but at least some)
even when the game released he did nothing but glaze that mediocre to bad first quest.
kuros actually doing great right now but who gonna try wuwa when that guy popping up on your recommended with his weirdo pretentious fans.
He's basically a leech in any gacha community that he latches into. That's what he did in ZZZ as well before he couldn't suck any negative engagement out of it anymore and moved on the next gacha game.
He's tip-toed into bashing WuWa as well. I don't think he actually supports any gacha game, he just uses whatever is the best cudgel to bash Hoyoverse at the time. He isn't driven by what he enjoys, only by his hate for Hoyo.
He isn't driven by what he enjoys, only by his hate for Hoyo.
Or rather money he gets from people consuming this type of content. Why 'fix' what is not broken? People are looking for this content, he gets money from it, of course he's not going to stop.
i remember all these CCs started with HSR (thats where the "could never" term started), and then they got bored and moved on to wuwa. i think most of them have moved on from wuwa asw except this mf shittontas
Maybe I'm tripping but I just saw that his email address is linked to one of Tencent marketing company or anything but still have ties with Tencent. Even if he lost his reputation, with who he work with no wonder he still says insane shit in his platform. Normal human will keep silent or backed off when his argument contain hypocrisy, but he keep sucking the same shit that he criticise because he work with them.
So glad that the community start pushing him out because he became true lolcow of gacha community in any platform and maybe many regions.
To be fair HSR suffered a lot because of this and the community is to this day aware of it. Some people already don’t enjoy when communities over praise something that clearly has some flaws, but it becomes annoying when the main purpose is to trash talk something you’ve been enjoying for a long time. “Genshin could never” very much became the reason why a lot of people that gave HSR a try decided to quit the game. We talking about games that have a big focus on community building, so it’s not easy to be a player that every time they click on a post or stream it’s the same toxicity over and over again. For the first months HSR came out, the Gacha revenue posts were used as fuel to shit on Genshin till the moment the game stopped showing bigger numbers
But how can I, for example, play a game fully when everywhere I go to interact with the community, except main sub, I constantly see shit being thrown to the other game, that I play even more of? And by further interacting with Wuwa you get more and more recommendations of it's shitty "CC's".
So it's that bad huh? I subscribed to him on YT a while back & constantly watched his wuwa videos but not his streams. I ain't in gacha community so idk what drama he has going on. He kept making videos about a mr pokke & posted fewer wuwa videos so I unsubscribed. Is that what gave him a bad reputation?
I'm not convinced his viewers even play wuwa, I certainly didn't. I initially watched him cause he might have useful guides, but my god he's actual dogshit in his own "niche" too.
IWTL is my favorite for guides because he actually has number breakdowns for everything such as weapons and constellations / whatever they're called in each game. They're not always perfectly accurate, but a lot of guides don't even have those, they just go over what they do which is pointless.
Haven't played wuwa in a while but I remember watching the guy's YouTube videos and enjoying them. Then I tuned into his streams and jesus... What a Jekyll and Hyde moment that was.
Including the videos that intially put him on a radar? The ones where he blamed MHY for prohibiting it's VAs to work on WW (in the time when the games already had overlap in VAs) and calling VA, that denied his accusation, a liar?
The YouTube algorithm just punted his more helpful videos at me. He was toxic the entire time. I just wasn't exposed to it until watching his streams. Then I started to find his more toxic videos as well.
Tbh, goes for alot of these CC's. Saint, PixelTree, Arikado, MrPokke, SkullCJ, list goes on and on - If I know you watch any of those you end up in the same "insane" category.
I don't, i only watch BranOnline, Jadely, Sxmmy and other creators that do playthrough or reaction of wuwa and genshin.
For guides i don't watch any, i use prydwen or the game's integrated Guide Depot
Thats fair. Mostly watch lore and playthroughs myself. With FluffyPenguin, Ashikai and Moxie being some of the channels I watch, Mostly for Wuwa and Genshin also.
yeah, you can't be a Wuwa fan and support that guy.
That dude has brought nothin but toxicity to that community.
There's lots of other smaller Wuwa CCs out there who actually puts effort in their content, making valuable guides and all, not just ragebaiting, drama, and gacha tribalism. js
i first watcd him because he covered wuwa then his content became just reacting to others videos, shit on anyone that says something bad about wuwa (even if true), shit on hoyoshills, etc...anything but playing the game anyway.
EVEN in game he says some dumb shit and insults people who disagree with him and this was A YEAR AGO.
I haven't watch him since months and i know there is some drama going on but man, he was a POS since a while. No point watching him if you care about wuwa, he's only there to be an annoying POS.
That's basically the beginning of every major wuwa CC on release, and that is the problem that plagued the community the most til this day. This is also the reason why the Wuwa CN/EN communities is absurdly obnoxious, compared to the JP/KR communities where it's less about Genshin vs Wuwa and more about Wuwa the game itself. albeit the performance and story of the game was yikes on release.
He'll probably try and start something with the NTE community next if his past behavior is any indication. Not sure what narrative he can push given that its gacha system so far is actually pretty good and it looks pretty promising so far, but this clown will warp reality to suit his narrative, so anythings possible.
You can nitpick any game if you try really hard. Most people just dont because their enjoyment of the game exceeds any of these nitpicks, but drama farmers will grasp any straws for content.
The turning point for me; I went from not caring who he was to actively disliking him when he used his community to actively harass someone who WAS making productive, data-driven content, out of the space.
He actually made my guide searching experience worse.
How pathetic do you have to be to when all you do is engagement-farm and still have less viewership than a retired opera singer uncle that literally makes videos for fun.
saying Saint is the face of Wuwa because he won last year is like saying Shai Gilgeous-Alexander is the face of NBA because he won 2025 MVP, when most people know that there's not much CC on wuwa the time when that competition was even held up.
because only actual wuwa players get those other viewers lol.
While saintontas actually gets a lot from any other gacha game community. in a sense yes this clown is the face of wuwa for us. because he is the loudest and the one in front of everything.
He is obsessed with numbers. His Youtube and Twitch metrics, games metrics, competing CC metrics.. he regularly goes into other CCs Youtube channels and starts picking apart the performance of each video as "proof" of how valid or not those CCs takes or vids are. He keeps making the argument that AKE is EOSing because it has only 1500 views on twitch on average... while ignoring that Genshin with similar views, is regularly the best performing gacha on the market.
For someone THAT obsessed about numbers and metrics.. I would not be surprised if he bots.
Wuwa cc when most of his content is not wuwa?
THE wuwa community gave him this title when he had 10-20k followers defending the game from random misinformation/misrepresentation and doing some guides
Then he discovered controversy supremacy and I'm pretty sure the drama consumers/enjoyers AREN'T just one community or two
And who can blame him when the numbers get higher the more people hate him
(It doesn't matter if they hate you if they all say your name)
I'll believe this when the wuwa community at large stop repeating and upvoting his talking points spread by his remeaning followers.
Just because you say they don't like the guy, somehow still his old and new talking points are the ones they run with all the time, even when they are based on lies he specifically made up.
That guy had fans back then because he actually had valid criticisms when he was only targetting genshin and HSR, even before wuwa was a thing. His target audience are those who are also burnt out with genshin's mechanics and HSR's powercreeping. He is also good at debating with people making him seem like the "correct" one.
He took it too far when he... For some reason... Started targetting ZZZ with whatever takes he had and now endfield. And now he's on a constant fight with a lot of CCs, which, those guys have their own fans too and seeing saintontas slander them just ruins his reputation more.
I wouldn't say he's a good debater he debates like charlie kirk only use big words strike first 10% truth and 90% propaganda and lastly never admit defeat if it doesnt benifit you
Yeah, that's the type of online personality I hate dealing with the most. Never acknowledges your points, never accepts wrongs, and always moves goalposts back on a "safe" topic or agenda where they have an edge on based on previous events, even if it's not the main point of the argument.
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u/Tohsakaust Nikke Mar 01 '26
Not even wuwa community defends this guy anymore
At this point he’s just fighting his demons