r/singularity • u/kernelangus420 • 1d ago
AI AI-generated videos are slowly displacing actors and live-streamers in China's entertainment industry
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERXDmLqmS9422
u/FUThead2016 1d ago
I’ll just get my agent to watch all the videos
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u/FaceDeer 1d ago
Unironically this. I'd love to have a personal agent who is well versed in my personal opinions and tastes give me reviews and recommendations about what shows to watch.
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u/KrazyA1pha 1d ago
You can pretty easily do that right now.
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u/DelphiTsar 1d ago
The real ease is if there are subtitles and you don't care too much about the visual element. AI can review a two hour script in effectively zero time.
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u/FaceDeer 1d ago
I wouldn't say "pretty easily" yet, vision models take a fair bit of horsepower and I'd probably have to write a custom harness since I doubt anyone's done that.
You could more easily have an agent that reads existing reviews of videos, but that's a step removed.
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u/KrazyA1pha 1d ago
Oh, I didn’t realize having the AI pre-watch media as a hard requirement. That aside, everything you said is easily done using existing reviews.
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u/gokickrocks- 1d ago
I get what they mean. Reviews are still through someone else’s eyes and their bias seeps in. A personal agent would know my bias and be able to view media through my lens instead of the lens of the reviewers.
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u/Cultural_Book_400 1d ago
I mean in due time... nothing will withstand AI... it's just matter of when
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u/lemonylol 1d ago
It's inevitable that AI content will be an entire market, but that doesn't mean human-created content won't also continue to exist, with exceptional talent appreciating in value anyway. The real art is still going to be there just like people still are still patrons of outdated art forms now, expecting no significant ROI.
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u/flyingflail 1d ago
Yeah it'll be one of the more interesting ones to follow.
In general it seems like "human created" anything might garner a premium simply because of its relative scarcity.
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u/blueSGL humanstatement.org 1d ago edited 21h ago
In general it seems like "human created" anything might garner a premium simply because of its relative scarcity.
That only matters if people want to pay the markup.
I could see this being done for "status" symbols "look at my curios they are hand crafted at the top of a mountain somewhere"
would entertainment that is mainly used to... well... entertain, to pass time, really hold that much sway in future?
There is the Nolan "nothing is CGI everything is real" (apart from everything that was CGI and/or digitally altered) even the most known name in "being authentic" isn't.
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u/flyingflail 1d ago
I picture it in a, world where scarcity of necessary goods no longer exists. You effectively have access to everything you want/need.
Artificial scarcity is the only thing that would exist and be paid for.
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u/Spra991 1d ago
but that doesn't mean human-created content won't also continue to exist
"Human-created" content barely exists today to begin with, almost everything, at least the popular stuff, is "corporation-created". Humans are still part of a corporation of course, but no sole individual is the driving force behind it. People get fired, IP changes hands, but product still comes out just the same, even if all humans have changed behind the scenes. The process is also deliberately intransparent, with all the workers being under NDA and stuff, so the only behind the scenes footage you'll ever see, is the one the corporation has produced, and which is often fiction just like the product itself. Doesn't matter if it's a movie, a game or the latest Apple product.
AI can slot right in there and start replacing humans without anybody of the audience even noticing, since they never knew what was going on behind the scenes anyway. Hollywood might still keep some movie stars around, they seems to be quite useful for advertising, but that might be temporary and start disappearing once the last generation of the big movie stars retire.
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u/greentrillion 21h ago
Nice way to move the goal post, all the processes you mentioned are still run by humans, sorry. The audience will notice, LLMs cannot produce anything novel only reproduce slop.
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u/Spra991 15h ago
all the processes you mentioned are still run by humans
Yes, PROCESSES. It's a digital conveyor belt for content production. How much "creative vision" of the individual do you think can come through when you have thousands of people working on a project? And all are following some studio mandated direction.
The audience will notice,
The audience is paying so little attention that Netflix movies have their character narrating the events just in case the user wasn't watching the movie they were watching.
When you have the likes of Red Notice or The Electric State clogging the tubes, the bar that AI movies have to cross isn't nearly as high as you think. And they are only going to get better from here.
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u/greentrillion 15h ago
Just shows you have no idea how movies are made. Takes hundreds or even thousands of people working together to make some movies. Certain people have more creative control than others, still involves people.
You argument essentially is that people will put on an AI movie in the background because they won't even pay attention to it. Okay chief. In that case doesn't matter what's on because they aren't watching it anyway.
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u/Spra991 14h ago
You argument essentially is that people will put on an AI movie in the background because they won't even pay attention to it.
No, my argument is that that is the state of movies already, that slog is the human created content you value so much and that Netflix and Co. are throwing hundreds of millions at.
AI movies don't have to beat "The Odyseey" to become relevant, they just have to beat "Red Notice". And given that you can make about 500 AI movies for the cost of one "Red Notice", that shouldn't be so hard.
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u/greentrillion 14h ago
You are betting that people are, or will be, dumbed down enough that they no longer care what they are watching. If that happens, they will be degraded enough to accept whatever slop is put in front of their trough. So you are not betting that AI will produce anything good, because you cannot claim that it will. All you can claim is that it will produce slop people consume passively and nobody actively chooses to pay for.
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u/BBAomega 1d ago
And we'll all end up like wall-e
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u/Cultural_Book_400 1d ago
no doubt honestly .. again and again from T2
"it is IN your nature to destroy yourselves"
Never been truer
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u/DelphiTsar 1d ago
Wall-e world didn't have GLP-1 (and the new stuff coming online that makes it even stronger).
But general premise probably a lot like it, yeah.
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u/Pantsickle 1d ago edited 1d ago
It's just a fad. I'm 100 percent certain that within the decade we'll be using steam-and-gear powered automoton actors and be back to using hand-cranked film cameras to create all of our visual media. Any. Day. Now.
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u/JackFisherBooks 1d ago
It's slow now. But this is definitely something that's likely to accelerate in the coming years. AI is still very taboo in certain domains. And it'll stay that way for a while. The problem is that human generated content has limits and humans, in general, are plenty capable of producing their own slop. AI only needs to get slightly more capable to permanently displace human content creators. And that point will happen in the coming years.
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u/OutOfBananaException 1d ago
Not so slow, counts for over an estimated 90% of new short form content in China.
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u/kernelangus420 22h ago
I wouldn't be surprised, this CNN Facebook post claims:
New AI-video generation tools have taken over China’s multi-billion-dollar microdrama industry, with more than 95% of these dramas released in the first quarter of this year made using AI, according to Chinese state media. CNN’s Simone McCarthy speaks to an actor and the founder of an AI production company on how the shakeup has impacted their lives.
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u/youareallnuts 23h ago
Not that the courts mean much but Fortune has a headline "Chinese court rules firms can’t lay off workers on AI grounds". Seems like this would violate that.
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u/lurenjia_3x 1d ago
The blatant disregard for copyright over in China is wild. People just rip web novels, churn out AI-generated videos from them, and flood media. The market has already become an oversaturated red ocean.
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u/DramaQueen202s 1d ago
Actors often sleep their way up. Romans were right, actors are like prostitutes. They are heavily privileged nepo babies and still act as victims of the industry that made them rich.
I'm glad they are being replaced.
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u/liebebio 1d ago
I am kinda skeptical. the models need to be good enough to be persistent in the movie style. that means I dont watch a movie and then the characters switch throughout the scenes and I am like "ok who is this again?". the models struggle with this still
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u/kernelangus420 1d ago
Here's an example of a Chinese generated AI video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLFkGQZVV0U
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u/liebebio 1d ago
ok that seems to work well enough
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u/TacomaKMart 1d ago
As the saying goes, this is the worst it'll ever be.
https://youtu.be/16w53DZvADI?si=aY7dUMf-ALBVzGcI
If the story is good, I'm not sure I care how it was made. I was capable of enjoying Finding Nemo without believing that was a real clownfish.
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u/mr_scoresby13 1d ago
Funny example
But in all seriousness, there is better short drama videos which would need a keen eye to notice that it was generated by AI
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u/CrowdGoesWildWoooo 1d ago
Chinese Shorts Drama is their version of modern “brainrot”, people rarely care about the “quality”, it’s just junk food entertainment.
They were just starting to popularize it in Asia like around 2024-2025, but then replaced the whole industry with AI the next year.
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u/Spra991 15h ago
Check out "Hell Grind" or "The Cully Hill Boys" on Youtube. ever since Seedance2.5 that's basically a solved problem. It's the dialog delivery that can still be a bit weird, but everything else is quite ok.
Full length AI movies are real now. They'll improve in the future, but already good enough and more watchable than half the slop Hollywood puts out, at a fraction of the cost.
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u/reddit_guy666 1d ago
They gave built a pretty good pipeline and Chinese viewers are forgiving in terms of consistency and quality to an extent
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u/goatonastik 1d ago
If people didn't want it, it wouldn't happen. People are consuming these so there is demand. Anyone mad should blame the consumers. Instead, they don't even blame the companies using AI, they blame the technology itself. Can't make this shit up.
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u/reddit_is_geh 1d ago
Notice how they aren't calling for progress to be stopped, banned, or how it's wrong. They are more discussing how to handle the transition, prepare, and pivot.
The US is going to get so fucked.
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u/MiRC_ZoMBiE 1d ago
Vão acabar com o interesse das pessoas por cinema.
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u/Old-School8916 1d ago
I doubt it. They have already got used to it
It's penetrated china way quicker than Hollywood
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u/CarrierAreArrived 1d ago
don't project the edgy, irrational, short-sighted nature of our population onto the Chinese. They love and embrace AI and can't wait for luxury communism.
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u/ExpressCopy8786 1d ago
Please, please for the love of god! Do this to western influencers. To all of them. The full spectrum! Make über pretty soap and make up selling insta dolls and also give them an only fans while you're at it. Bankrupt the scum of society with GenAI!!
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u/Elvarien2 1d ago
I mean these shorts were mass produced very low quality content before ai.
Now it's mass produced somewhat low quality content.
What's the problem exactly? The only change is a slight rise in quality.
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u/HistoricalShelter923 1d ago
The slopbots are winning in the Slop People's Republic? Color me surprised. Thankfully, we in the West are smarter than these people. There's no way low level content would displace the Grandees of Hollywood, such as Jared Leto.
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u/UnknownWolfster 1d ago
Is this ragebait or js racist?
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u/CommercialMarkett 1d ago
Still waiting for the software that’ll be like premier pro, but letting you generate scenes at the same time
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u/Roggieh 1d ago
Can confirm, it's all my extended family living there seems to watch lately. When I ask them what they're watching, they sheepishly say "Oh, it's just brainrot, something to pass the time." At least they know it's AI...for now, lol.