I want to preface this with I need help and advice. I am looking to get my second grail gun, a vz61 (I know not to crazy), in the next few months. I don’t know where to start, whether I should jump on a parts kit now and wait to get the funds for mags, ammo, and a receiver. Or if it would be better to save and but a finished gun outright. I just wanted to know if yall were getting into the vz61 ecosystem for the first time what would you do? What routes would yall take? Thanks for yalls time and enjoy your evening. :)

Found these "FRT's" online and was curious if anyone has experience with them. Being that it comes with 12 I can imagine they wear quite fast but wanted to see if anyone thinks it would be worth recreating with sheet metal.

Picking this up from my gunsmith tomorrow. Pretty hyped to get a can on it. I missed the drop of the wide wire suppressor stocks but I’ll get one next time.

VZ61 FRT testing in Tortort Receiver, couple failures to feed which im thinking the feed ramp needs to be polished and a rate reducer installed.

I want to install a mini plan b. Who is doing a good barrel threading service?

Please for the love of god someone point me to a lower that’s not out of stock or plastic 🙏

I figured it would happen eventually but don’t buy this, it’s not me. If you want one and don’t have a printer message me
They couldn’t even get there own picture 🙄🙄

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1200810400?fbclid=PAVERFWAT_AZFwZG9mAmZkaWQWUNWqSEdV8rquThlirDcWlktphGEHL2V4dG4DYWVtAjEwAHNydGMGYXBwX2lkDzEyNDAyNDU3NDI4NzQxNAABp8pDfd1FKLNdlkMFSrbb-QzoaHVBvq-C3pCI0iwtTHjCuTCPEwF4zgWFgM0F_aem_jdLkITDSb8kCKHBxZkj21w

https://3dptacsol.com/product/vz-61-frt-pet-cf-6-pack/?fbclid=PAVERFWAT-_zZwZG9mAmZkaWQWUNXUvhjI7hZLHFXCtl7kmMZnaUcmcWV4dG4DYWVtAjEwAHNydGMGYXBwX2lkDzEyNDAyNDU3NDI4NzQxNAABp-nlGjCDuv-OTi2ZNHa09Fx85VaxuaD3zmzLoZ6ygEbb6rtlwf8A7m5K-JUZ_aem_8cQDmGh2teoPDHMpnb5s2A

Followed one of the build guides but I can’t get my trigger to reset.

I saw a thread where there’s a part of the trigger (top right) that’s from the auto function that can bind the trigger. I’m not seeing any grinding on the receiver but can anyone tell if that’s my problem?

We didn't like the bulky, folding options for the VZ61, so we decided to do our own twist on it. Production units will, of course, be machined aluminum for the optic mount/main body. Arms will be steel, and stock/brace will likely be printed and interchangeable. We're also working on something that will reduce upper and lower slop, so zero shift with the optic will be minimized.

Keep an eye out on totalinnovative.com and our Instagram @total_innovative for updates and release date.

Can anyone tell me when this kit was made? This is the only numbers I can find on the receiver

I purchased the VZ61 Clone (TA61) on 05/02/26.
I got an email on 06/01/26 saying that my Titus Arms order is on it's way.

On 06/29/26 I received a tracking number.
I received an unfinished VZ61 clone, but I accepted the transfer on 06/30 because I'm in VA and could send it back to them to completed it. I emailed them on 06/30 and they told me I would be receiving instructions on the next few days on how to send it back to be finished. It is now 08/26, and I've heard nothing. I've emailed several times since 06/30, and have not received an update or any type of response regarding my order.

I understand that they are a small operation dealing with growing pains, but until they get this figured out, I would stay away from them. They shouldn't sell anything new until they catch up.

Took a couple of the various files sailing and altered a bit. Left where I could use the oem stock. NO, it won't fold over the top, but still works as fixed stock. Added a hole through mount so iron sights can be used. Yep, printed this one in PLA+, it'll work for a while.

Back in stock notification received today. Curious if anyone has purchased a kit from AOA before and had any feedback on their receiver cuts. The price looks fair considering the barrel and magazine inclusions but all the photos seem pretty stock and don’t show photos of the actual kits so it gives me pause. Based on the link, this is a preorder and they don’t actually have the kits yet so who knows if they even know what it’s going to look like.

If you bought from them before, let me know your thoughts on the kit. Thanks gang!

decided to start a new thread then commenting on all the old ones. new frt file on the sea, 8 walls, %100 infill, the hole for the selector is file to fit so be prepared with some files. as always let me know when you test it and what receivers youre running it in. WILL NOT WORK WITH THE .22 UPPERS. shoot me a message with any concerns!

on the sea under the same name

Just waiting for Tortort receivers to be in stock… this’ll be my first form 1 when it’s all said and done. Can’t wait!

I got my first kit in today from K-Var, and the trigger guard still has the head of the rivet stuck inside. What will be the best way to remove it?

A design I have been working on to modernize the Skorpion a bit. Very happy with the outcome.