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[u/Oddish_Femboy]

I had a $1400 macbook I had to get for school drop support for most things entirely after 5 years.

It refuses to update. Things refuse to work on it because the OS is too old. It is literally a glorified typewriter.

[u/Junethemuse → u/Oddish_Femboy]

That’s wild. Every MacBook I’ve had has been supported for at least 7 years plus security updates for an additional few years.

[u/Oddish_Femboy → u/Junethemuse]

Is that better?

[u/Junethemuse → u/Oddish_Femboy]

Idk, 10 years or so of active updates and support seems pretty good to me. Not to mention the longest I ever had a windows laptop last me was 5 years before it failed or aged out and wasn’t able to support current software anymore. My laptops are MacBooks because they are reliable and durable.

But my desktop is a PC and my servers run Ubuntu because it’s better for the applications.

[u/Whitestrake → u/Oddish_Femboy]

Yes, it is. 7+a few more years of security patches is better than entirely dropped support after 5.

That's a huge breakpoint. 7-10 years is much much more likely to last until we hit "I actually want a new device" and 5 years is much more likely to be "I could've kept this one longer". Like, that ain't nothing, that's actually important.

5 years kinda sucks actually and I totally agree you got shafted if you were forced to ditch perfectly good mac hardware at that time.

[u/Oddish_Femboy → u/Whitestrake]

An extra 2 years because it was bought 2 years earlier into the life cycle than mine isn't nothing, but it's not as cool as not arbitrarily blocking updates on a device that cost more than my car would be.

[u/Smartshark89 → u/Oddish_Femboy]

Can I interest you in Linux?

[u/Oddish_Femboy → u/Smartshark89]

Yeah yeah I'll get around to it when I can afford a USB stick.

[u/MagosZyne → u/Oddish_Femboy]

Afford? You don't have a mysterious collection of USB sticks you acquired during highschool? (Didn't even steal them. I just kinda have them but no recollection of when or why.)

[u/Oddish_Femboy → u/MagosZyne]

I dropped out in the 6th grade.

[u/Oddish_Femboy → u/Oddish_Femboy]

5th grade.

[u/Oddish_Femboy → u/Oddish_Femboy]

Forgot how to count.

[u/Shift642 → u/Smartshark89]

No, you cannot.

[u/Decoren_Abendregen → u/Oddish_Femboy]

Have you tried OpenCore Legacy Patcher?

[u/Oddish_Femboy → u/Decoren_Abendregen]

The charger sparks when I plug it in.

[u/mcslender97 → u/Oddish_Femboy]

Does it charge still? I had a Surface RT that would do that

[u/Oddish_Femboy → u/mcslender97]

I'm not burning my house down to find out.

[u/lumpiestspoon3 → u/Oddish_Femboy]

Should've bought an M1 instead of that intel garbage. Intel macs are the worst.

[u/Oddish_Femboy → u/lumpiestspoon3]

I was 8.

[u/mermaid_pants → u/Oddish_Femboy]

Why would an 8 year old need a $1400 laptop for school?

[u/Oddish_Femboy → u/mermaid_pants]

Why do you expect me to know the answer to that question? I was 8.

[u/mermaid_pants → u/Oddish_Femboy]

Not really expecting an answer so much as calling bullshit.

[u/Oddish_Femboy → u/mermaid_pants]

The school specifically required me to have a macintosh laptop because they used exclusively Macintosh software.

[u/Oddish_Femboy → u/Oddish_Femboy]

And Macintosh devices are fucking expensive.

[u/MCplayer590]

Here before the Linux users come and talk about their systems

(it's me, i'm the linux user, I use fedora btw :3)

[u/Kidney__Failure → u/MCplayer590]

I hate to break it to you but, fedoras do not function as computers. They lack keyboards

[u/kurtanglesmilk → u/MCplayer590]

No way they’ve actually got an OS called Fedora lmao

[u/Desolver20 → u/kurtanglesmilk]

It's even affiliated with red hat, who also have a fedora!

and develop combat targeting AI for lockheed martin while having their hands in almost every single open source linux pie and enshittifying most of them.

[u/RevolutionOld6197 → u/kurtanglesmilk]

The m’lady os

[u/mcslender97]

Wheres that meme of disgusted Homelander about someone you agree with but their presenting it in such a shit way?

Or that clown to clown communication because both their reasoning are so dumb

[u/Oddish_Femboy → u/mcslender97]

Which one?

[u/TheDonutPug]

The original has to be ragebait. Genuinely cannot believe people are real who dickride for apple that hard in the modern day. I thought that fell out of fashion a while ago.

[u/bubyanwar → u/TheDonutPug]

tbh i used to think that macbooks are overprised laptops until they switched to ARM-based chips in 2020, now there's a legitimate reason to get them over the Windows ones (and maybe a reason for them to glaze macbooks that hard lol)

[u/Petzah394 → u/bubyanwar]

The hardware is legitimately super impressive, genuinely beats most windows laptops IMO, it's just macos and the all around closedness that holds me back

[u/forchinski → u/TheDonutPug]

A walled garden is just a prison with curb appeal

[u/Fruits_Shinobi → u/TheDonutPug]

I thought this until I had to use a loaned mac to run after effects and i saw what a plastic laptop looks like after 2 years of work.

[u/EdgiiLord]

OOOP is also wrong, because there are Linux laptops (I wanna finish this God forsaken uni to finally uninstall the last device with Windows that I own).

[u/Nooblet_101]

me when bait

[u/markeydarkey2]

I've had so many frustrations with my Razer Blade 15 that (despite my strong distaste of MacOS) it will probably be replaced at some point by a MacBook Pro because they are simply much better tools at this point.

Apple's ARM chips give them a huge lead in the areas that actually matter for using a laptop, battery life & performance on battery. Hopefully the ARM RTX Spark SoCs Nvidia recently unveiled can compete in a similar ballpark because I would prefer to stay with windows.

[u/Desolver20 → u/markeydarkey2]

Lenovo business laptops!

Built to last and with a wide selection, a good few even working very well for gaming!

And cheap as fuck if you buy them refurbished!

[u/markeydarkey2 → u/Desolver20]

I've considered those as a loooooong-time ThinkPad fan but even if hardware reliability is flawless it'd still have the same functionality limitations because the high performance hardware I need (decent CPU & dGPU) are power hogs with x86 hardware. Those tend to have a pretty limited screen selection too with panels that rarely meet my [≥120hz] + [bright] + [color accurate] criteria unfortunately.

My (2022) Blade 15 cannot do any remotely serious work until I connect it to a power outlet, it'll last maybe 2 hours web browsing. I despise MacOS and the MBP14/16 screens have terrible ghosting but they are killer for the photo & video editing work I do because of their ARM chips.

[u/mcslender97 → u/markeydarkey2]

Might be crazy expensive but if you don't need integrated SoC ala RTX Spark then the Zephyrus g14/g16 and MSI Stealth 16 2026 are your best bet outside this year's Razer Blade 16

[u/Chicky_Fish]

People who use Macs typically don't know how to troubleshoot a computer

[u/sam77889 → u/Chicky_Fish]

I use Mac cuz windows laptops sucks. It’s light and last all day with no fan. It also works really well for scientific programming.

[u/unread1701 → u/Chicky_Fish]

Aren’t a lot of Mac users programmers

[u/nevemlaci2 → u/unread1701]

No, they are people pretending to be knowledgable about programming

[u/JoJoJet- → u/nevemlaci2]

Tons of silicon valley companies use macbooks for everything. I'm a software engineer and vastly prefer it for development. Unix is an incredibly nice environment to develop in, and the pro models are quite powerful which is really nice. Also I couldn't tell you why, but even objectively powerful windows machines are often slow as hell. I can do a clean build of our desktop app in 3 minutes on my MacBook. A windows desktop with the same specs takes upwards of 25 minutes. Lots of this is because developers tend to hate windows so open source tooling is often worse on windows. But im sure part of it is due to Microsoft enshittification

It's not that Apple is amazing or something. Microsoft is just bad and worse every year

[u/Fort-33 → u/nevemlaci2]

Unix is objectively better than Windows for programming, and most business environments are not going to let you use whatever Linux distro is your favorite.

[u/nevemlaci2 → u/Fort-33]

Idk. At work we use Windows laptops but we do everything inside Linux devcontainers and have a remote machine with a lot of resources running linux that anyone can use over ssh if they want to

[u/Fort-33 → u/nevemlaci2]

Congrats, that is not standard. Large enterprise and up uses either Windows or Mac.

[u/Oddish_Femboy → u/unread1701]

Doesn't mean they have any idea how to troubleshoot a computer.

[u/Awwesome1]

Class war not culture war

[u/LiverFailureMan]

Tbh I tried a few Linux distros for a while, ultimately I went back to windows for Steam. I know it's better now than it used to be but I still think Windows is best for gaming. Also, the irony of referring to Windows as tyranny when you're locked into Apple lol.

[u/DispeisLaser8431_ → u/LiverFailureMan]

How long ago did you try? now unless what you play uses kernel anti cheat It should work out of the box on steam

[u/LiverFailureMan → u/DispeisLaser8431_]

A long time ago... God, probably more than 10 years? I hadn't even realized how long it was till you asked. Yeah, it was a long time ago.

[u/DispeisLaser8431_ → u/LiverFailureMan]

Then you should give it another shot the situation got a lot better

[u/Desolver20 → u/LiverFailureMan]

steam has it's own linux distro now! Also mint or such are really good and work with basically everything out of the box for most people!

[u/DrOsmium → u/LiverFailureMan]

As long as it supports your hardware, SteamOS is unironically better than Windows for gaming in every way. Proton is basically at the point where the vast majority of games will just run without needing to do anything, and the ones that don't can be fixed by just changing the version of Proton they run on.

[u/Journeyj012]

not an apple bro but can't you just use Crossover?

[u/iuhiscool → u/Journeyj012]

it's $500 upfront or $60/yr you might as well just buy a laptop you can put linux on & use proton/wine with

[u/Decoren_Abendregen → u/iuhiscool]

You can pirate it though

[u/sam77889 → u/Journeyj012]

It also doesn’t work as well since Mac started using Arms chips.

[u/GubblebumGold → u/Journeyj012]

or dual boot asahi linux with proton and fex to run windows prohrams

[u/rabid_treefrog]

Smh the only people who are truly free are running freeBSD, arch or alpine

Edit: I changed by mind it's Gentoo or bust

[u/DispeisLaser8431_ → u/rabid_treefrog]

Shall I introduce you to LFS?

[u/Desolver20 → u/rabid_treefrog]

artix!

Systemd is of the devil!

[u/Extension_Heron6392]

Do MacBooks not let you read or play games?

[u/KittyQueen_Tengu]

macbooks have plenty of flaws, but i hate windows so goddamn much that it’s worth it. plus emulators and porting can do a whole lot for you

[u/New-Let-3630]

Iseksai Train what now ?

[u/Oddish_Femboy → u/New-Let-3630]

Mole Station. Where you run a train station fore moles in another world.

[u/Oddish_Femboy → u/Oddish_Femboy]

How did I misspell for

[u/CyrusHusky]

I like my MacBook, but I can’t wait for Linux to support it so I have a way out of the walled garden

[u/VersaViceVersa]

some simply don’t understand the gamer grindset

[u/NiIly00]

Huh? Where are all the comments?

[u/dead_5775]

what happened here, what happened to the comments? I was hoping for some linux discourse

[u/MizunoZui]

he's larping bc with Wine/CrossOver MacBooks can now run VNs with very good efficiency and compatibility and should handle those titles at ease

[u/TheLurker1209]

I simply don't buy macbooks because they suck

[u/unread1701]

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[u/BigDan_0]

Not really the argument id make, but they got a point

[u/ThrowawayTheHomo]

I'm WINEpilled, I'm Asahi-dualbootmaxxing, I'm VMcore

[u/GigaVanguard]

What the hell why are all the comments hidden

[u/Oddish_Femboy → u/GigaVanguard]

Apparently one of the mods accidentally set a flag that made every post with any letter of the alphabet get automatically hidden.

[u/shadow_fen]

just use crossover or wine

[u/Interesting-Bass9957]

You can, with KegWorks or Crossover

[u/Xero_1000]

the humble emulator

(some higher requirement games i had performance issues on tho, idk if theres any beefy macbooks lol)

[u/vanon3256]

Says there are 28 comments, but I can only see the Automod's, what's going on?

[u/requireblahaj]

ideal setup: macbook neo or air for most browsing (pro if you do media stuff and need the juice) plus medium-power linux box for gaming

[u/TerminaterTeal]

I use it for a glorified recording studio (Logic Pro)

[u/ashen_crow]

Triple recycled bait.

[u/Junethemuse]

Windows for gaming, Mac OS for productivity (unless you’re in love with Office), design, and portability, Linux for my servers.

[u/the_burber]

Gaming laptop. Mac fucking sucks for games.

[u/EmeraldFox379]

Meanwhile the humble Linux machine:

[u/squidtugboat]

I hate the Mac OS.

[u/ihave05sisters]

i think that falls under “by their own mind”

[u/PityUpvote]

Imagine not using Fedora Silverblue or Kinoite (or one of the heretical spin-offs)

[u/z3810]

Holy fanboy

[u/rooshavik]

All the low power games except bloons won’t work

[u/fitbitofficialreal]

i'm really hoping their reasoning is that games aren't a rational reason

[u/Who_Stole_Faralo]

mac computer not a laptop but the only one I've seen was running windows, so take that as you will

[u/Fruits_Shinobi]

my growing hatred for windows makes see why non-tech people should rather a macbook. specially given the state of most windows laptops right now. i say this as I see my Latitude's paint chipping away and the keycaps melting before her first dent.

this is what i tell to people: buy used, necromance a real thinkpad or get a macbook.

[u/CLArgonaut]

I actually know a guy that tried to get me into AmaIro, when he gifted it out of the blue I gave it what I thought was a fair 3 hour test (since it's a VN) but it wasn't for me.

[u/coolboiepicc]

ok i dont agree with that guy but windows computers do kind of mog macbooks sadly

[u/bubyanwar → u/coolboiepicc]

in what way, though (aside from gaming obviously, and not having to use macos) /gen

[u/Hidden-Squid1216]

Damn maybe I should switch to mac

[u/Vorox3]

I like when my device isn't hostile to being repaired