r/2007scape • u/brotheralbania • 10d ago
Humor Heard they drop 4-5 copper ore each time.
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u/zsneezes 10d ago
bracelet of slaughter equipped
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u/Longjumping-Hour-292 9d ago
We need Varrock guards to begin stopping players before they enter Varrock and seizing their weapons.
“Do you need a bracelet of slaughter?”
“You cant slaughter people in self defence”
“You dont need access to weapons of war like
Ice barrage, only the military should have such things “This will significantly reduce spell crime in Varrock and make everone safer
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u/CarbonElysium 9d ago
Taking away the rights of the average citizen but you don’t mention any strategy to deal with the dark wizards…. You need to focus on the real safety issues here.
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u/philly7454 10d ago
Make sure you wear a full helm so they can’t identify you
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u/Bones-1989 def pure 10d ago
I heard it was 2 coppers 1 gold and some exotic new shit like platinum or something.
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u/Find_A_Reason 10d ago
Lithium is the really valuable new material that most are not acknowledging. It is already processed, so very valuable to tinkerers.
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u/Alientongue 10d ago
Now this is why I stay on this sub after taking a break from rs top notch my dude.
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u/Garfield_and_Simon 10d ago
I got no idea what a flock camera is then I googled it damn the US really likes corpos treading on them
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u/_Ross- 21 Year Veteran 10d ago
Tread on me daddy
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u/freefighter1 10d ago
They can only say that in their dreams/nightmare they got the closeted for life build.
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u/DaWarGod2 Servers 10d ago
The people waving the dont tread on me flags are the very same people happily gobbling up the flock cameras
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u/rm45acp 10d ago
It's actually insane to me that the "I'll never wear a mask, you can't make me quarantine" crowd don't understand the flaws in "if you're not doing anything illegal you have nothing to hide"
Pisses me off to no end
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u/LittleDidTheyKnow1 Statistic 10d ago
I wish I was as dumb as them.
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u/wundaaa 10d ago
It'd make life so much simpler if I were i swear to god
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u/PrezMoocow 10d ago
Any mild inconvenience that may benefit another person is somehow the greatest form of tyranny
Meanwhile an authorization voice says jump and they say "how high?"
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u/Ward_Trangler 9d ago
You don't gain attack xp attacking straw dummies from level 8 onwards, you might have to find a real target soon
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u/Arcady89 10d ago
I have multiple pictures of trucks in my area sporting both a Gadsden (Don't tred on me) flag sticker and a blue lives matter sticker.
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u/Oberlatz 10d ago
Oppositional defiant disorder do be like that sometimes
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u/Oberlatz 10d ago
Depends on who they view as the authority. If people they subconsciously view as authoritative hate Flock, then Flock's okayish.
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u/Sweeniss 10d ago
Really Enjoying The Appropriate Rights Dismantled, Enthusiastically Disenfranchised crowd do be like that sometimes
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u/SoldToOpen 10d ago
Hi, don’t tread on my crowd guy here
Fuck Flock cameras. I support anyone taking them down
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u/lemurRoy 10d ago
Does anyone really support? The demographic I can think of is like age 60+ might support it
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u/Aaguns 10d ago
Nobody really likes them except law enforcement, it’s one of the few issues both sides of the aisle agree about. The problem is that they’re very oftrn funded and approved without the normal voting process, so nobody has a chance to speak up against them before they’re already installed.
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u/HungryMagician42069 10d ago
Nobody is happy about them
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u/Deodorized 10d ago
Then why do they keep supporting the politicians that push them?
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u/HungryMagician42069 10d ago
Youre silly if you think its a partisan issue. They massively abundant in blue and red states.
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u/JMC_MASK sailing plz 10d ago
A big one is abortion. Lots of these people are single issue voters.
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u/RoughDraftRs 10d ago
I know quite a few people who figuratively wave the don't tread on me flag, and they are all anti-flock. I don't know what the online discourse looks like right now but it seems like this could be an issue "both sides" could find some common ground on.
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u/MrStealYoBeef QA Team 9d ago
I genuinely would love for both sides to properly come together to accomplish something for once, our lack of any form of unity is a big reason we're in this situation right now. That's literally the biggest thing I want out of a leader at this point, a will to bring people together instead of shit talking the opposition.
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u/RoughDraftRs 9d ago
Yeah it seems the playbook is just divide, if only we could find some common ground and stopmfighting eachother on every issue.
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u/MarketingSpecial6604 10d ago
Yup my father has it tattooed on him but happily voted for the one responsible for ushering us in to the police state. "Cheaper taxes" was his reasoning.... Yet during the Obama years he bought into the FEMA death camp conspiracy theories, but now with actual camps being built and warehouses being converted into holding facilities nothing is wrong at all!
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u/FreeSquirkJuice 9d ago
Nah, anybody supporting it online is Fed affiliated. I live in an extremely rural area, majority red and both red team and blue team equally hate flock out here. I meet very few people IRL who are okay with it, regardless of political affiliation. I work directly with the public on a daily basis in different cities in my state.
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u/Own_Pair5107 10d ago
It suddenly happened within the past few months. None where I lived and then one weekend there were five.
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u/DevoidHT 2376 10d ago
The US kind of stopped trying to pretend. End stage capitalism was always going to be our undoing but now they aren’t hiding it anymore. Capital generating more capital while work goes unpaid.
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u/klarge24 10d ago
Yeah I'm not certain of a great future for this country/world. There is a great cosmic war between the forces of good and evil and human suffering will be immense. Learn about the creation of the federal reserve on jekyll island in 1913. 9/11 was sketchy af at best. Big kickstarter to the surveillance state. All cellphone calls are definitely on record somewhere at the NSA. Good luck if you're doing anything illegal now with flock cameras. It's sick the only decent future I see right now for myself is becoming an electrician and wiring up data centers that might end up leading to a lot of problems on top of the problems they're already causing.
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u/Buzzd-Lightyear 10d ago
I mean, doesn’t the UK have a fuckload of CCTV everywhere?
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u/ricksansmorty 10d ago
CCTV just records everything and deletes it after a certain time period to record new footage.
Flock camera's are hooked up to detect cars and people and then send it to a database to record wherever you went, so they know where you were. They don't even need a warrant for this either, and also it's not just cops that can access it, people at flock can see it too, and no law is stopping them from selling data about your every move to others.
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u/Buzzd-Lightyear 10d ago
Ah gotcha. I thought CCTV was a wider surveillance system than that. Yeah flock is fucking insane and they’re wasting no time in abusing the lack of regulation around them. Fun times we live in..
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u/Roxinos 10d ago
I thought CCTV was a wider surveillance system than that.
Just in case you didn't know, CCTV just means "closed-circuit television." We have them in the US, too. Any time you go to a supermarket or corner shop and see a camera, that's CCTV. Some countries just have a wider general acceptance of them so you get them in more places and police can access them. But it's not like Flock where it's privately-owned by technofascists.
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u/iskela45 BTW 10d ago
Also apparently American cops are already abusing flock to stalk their exes, and some higher up at Flock spent a lot of time watching cameras covering a young girls' gymnasium session and a pool.
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u/relationsdog 10d ago
UK CCTV got plate readers in the 70s. Their surveillance is much heavier overall.
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u/MakeMagatsCry 10d ago
Yeah but at least there's no middle man between the surveillance state there, hell in the US the corporations get all the data first then sell the scraps to the government
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u/RoArHaVeN slayer good runecraft bad 10d ago
Yeah the flock cameras seem like the ctOS stuff from watchdogs lmfao
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u/CatGirl_ToeBeans Max Infernal, working on Masters + Pets 10d ago
Handful of years ago ring cameras became all the rage and everybody has one and the police historically won’t use your footage to do simple things like convict people stealing from your front door.
Everybody signed up for surveillance and they are literally everywhere.
Think the fuckin surveillance system what’s his face from the dark knight makes to track the joker.
Flock cameras were a very easy goalpost to move when you already have people opting in to mass surveillance under the guise of protecting their home.
But I’m a nut job for talking like this so don’t mind me
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u/TallAfternoon2 10d ago
You should see what kind of civilian surveillance China is doing if you think flock cameras are bad
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u/marsfromwow 10d ago
“China bad” says the talking heads as they implement China bad technology.
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u/T_Quagsire 10d ago
“If you think MY shit stinks, check out this diaper” says the American as they stew in the smell of shit.
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u/SnicketySneme 10d ago
The UK has more cameras recording people even despite the abundance of Flock cameras in the US.
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u/Sterlander 2317/2376 10d ago
the "don't tread on me" crowd really likes defending those cameras for some reason. makes you wonder
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u/MuonBomb 10d ago
Charlie the Tramp has the inside scoop on new Flock placements.. make sure to keep him in your good graces
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u/Alias-Q 10d ago
We need a fermenik quest that parodies taking down flock cameras
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u/lemurRoy 10d ago
Jagex is in the uk they would never lol unless it was really not obvious so they could deny when daddy govt comes knockin
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u/Negative_Wrongdoer17 10d ago
Get as many as you can before Rendi makes a video and gets the method nerfed
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u/CertainlyRobotic 10d ago
I don't know guys, we need those cameras to catch the Dark Wizards trying to gank our level 1 noobs at the gas station Varrock Entrance
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u/FaPaDa 2140(690 F2P due to pricehike)/2376 10d ago
Guranteed: 5 goblin wires
1/10: 1 Silver wire (new item)
1/50: 1 Gold wire (new item)
The new wires can be used in a new smithing method to inlay jewelry to give it additional passive effects.
Can also be crafted via crafting at the poh workbench from silver and gold bars
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u/Street_Struggle_598 10d ago
No judgements at all but this made me think of something. Wasn't this idea of social media or something on the internet telling young people to destroy things in he real world in a cyberpunk book? Not snow crash but something similar involving an AI.
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u/Various-Leg7600 9d ago
My dumbass thought there was a dragon scimitar on the flor but it's your cursor.
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u/Silverwhite19 9d ago
Is the superior an I.C.E./H.A.M. agent? Asking for an exiled Fremennik friend...
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u/Madethisfordestiny 10d ago
I've never heard of a flock camera and am confused how this has 8k up votes.
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u/xanniballl 10d ago
“I don’t know about this thing therefore nobody else does either!!”
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u/Thundrboltr 8d ago
Is this an United States thing?
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u/xanniballl 8d ago
Yeah. They’re these license plate readers (cameras) installed in many cities that automatically log every car that passes them; make, model, color, plate number, time, direction, etc.
Not just specific people, or targeted investigations, but everyone who passes through. Then they supposedly use that data retroactively for criminal investigations.
It’s unconstitutional, passive mass surveillance.
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u/Thundrboltr 8d ago
When will people in the US wake up. What a shithole country it's become under the current administration
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u/xanniballl 7d ago edited 7d ago
While you’re right about this administration, this kind of mass surveillance of citizens has been going on here since September 11th, over 25 years ago.
Also the US is hardly the only country that does it. The UK has done similar mass surveillance for years. Not that it makes it okay or anything.
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u/MrStealYoBeef QA Team 9d ago
Might wanna start learning about it because it's a problem that will be coming for you whether you care about it or not.
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u/Find_A_Reason 10d ago
This is a common but still frustrating urban myth. Yes, they drop some copper, but they also drop lithium for anyone. This is only visible to folks that have a high enough level in the electronics specialization. That lithium is valuable to resell, or even more valuable for tinkerers.
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u/hexregeneration 10d ago
Dark mages actually commit less crime than the average adventurer, because they don't have the same systemic protections.
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u/Magxvalei 10d ago
Those dark wizards were born in Gielinor. The kingdoms west of the Salve don't really have borders anyways. Never been stopped once when passing from Varrock to Falador.
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u/Oniichanplsstop 10d ago
I mean they technically do? Both Fally and Varr have walls and guards stationed at any main entrance. There's just no Roleplay with them since it would be a net negative to add the conversation everytime.
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u/MaxRager 10d ago
Luckily I’m a law abiding citizen.
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u/Magxvalei 10d ago
For now
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u/MaxRager 9d ago
true, i cant tell what my future holds. maybe someone murders someone close to me and i seek street justice. but currently i cannot see myself turning to a life of crime.
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u/MrStealYoBeef QA Team 9d ago
You seem to misunderstand. You think you're a law abiding citizen. The entire problem with a surveillance state that tracks your every move is that it doesn't matter if you think you're law abiding, all it takes is a minor slip up and there's evidence to get you in trouble regardless of your actual behavior. You don't have the tracking data, they do, and they can take only the parts of it that make their case against you while you have nothing to defend yourself.
And all it takes to convict you of anything is for someone who has that kind of power to decide that they don't want you in society anymore for whatever reason. It doesn't matter if it's morally right or wrong, it doesn't matter if the full evidence would even prove your innocence. The law isn't there to protect you in a surveillance state, it's there to control. You think you have nothing to hide until you do, and then it's too late. You think you've done nothing wrong until the powers that be say you have.
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u/MaxRager 8d ago
I’m not a conspiratorial person. I don’t just jump to the evil and what could happen. I tend to focus on the actual objective of said thing. Bad people can abuse anything good, that doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be allowed.
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u/MrStealYoBeef QA Team 8d ago
Well it's a good thing that examples already exist and have been given in the comments on this post. No need to be conspiratorial about it.
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u/MaxRager 7d ago
So because something can be abused it should be banned? Why don’t we ban airplanes? Automobiles? Public schools? Police officers? Doctors? I mean I can keep listing things that evil people can abuse power.
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u/MrStealYoBeef QA Team 7d ago
... Yes?
When something is actively detrimental to society as a whole, it's in our best interest to get rid of it. Active constant surveillance everywhere all the time, and that data being used to profile and control, is the issue. It was not exactly an issue when it was just private businesses and homeowners choosing to hand over recorded video after a valid warrant to obtain that data was provided. One has respect for privacy, the other has none. Authorities need to have a valid reason ahead of time to invade privacy, that's the entire point of obtaining a search warrant.
Also, the examples you gave are actively benefiting society. I'd argue that some of them haven't been invested in enough though, especially public schools.
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u/MaxRager 7d ago
And flock cameras are actively benefiting society. So according to your own logic, flock cameras are good.
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u/Magxvalei 8d ago
It's not conspiratorial when surveillance state behavior is already happening. It's kinda been happening since 9/11, but recently it's being more mask off.
Bad people can abuse anything good, that doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be allowed
If those bad people are in positions of power and authority and there are no effective means of holding them accountable for abusing them, then absolutely those so-called "good things" aren't actually good and shouldn't be allowed.
And, as the saying goes, "he who is willing to sacrifice liberty for security deserves neither"
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u/MaxRager 7d ago
So you’re telling me you don’t have any smart devices in your house or daily in your pocket? Or is that abused surveillance allowed in your logic?
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u/Magxvalei 7d ago
Nobody likes or wants that Big Tech is gathering all sorts of information through their phone/internet.
But that kinda of indirect surveillance is not at all the same as the direct surveillance of technology like Ring doorbell cameras and Flock cameras.
It's certainly easier to manage your digital footprint.
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u/MaxRager 7d ago
That’s where you’re mistaken. You can get basic phones that don’t directly surveil your every move and conversations. You just decided in your mind that this evil is good for you.
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u/Magxvalei 9d ago edited 9d ago
Well, I meant you're a "law abiding citizen" until the government decides you're not, such as because you have beliefs that don't align with the regime, or vote a certain way. Or you're simply deemed an undesirable.
Or, more realistically and commonly, you get mistaken for a crime you didn't commit because the camera tracked the wrong liscence plate. Actually happened to this one woman recently.
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u/Turdey_Birdey 10d ago
I’ve been seeing them pop up in Falador.