r/AvatarVsBattles Jan 26 '22

Mod Format REQUIRED for posts…

19 Upvotes

From now on, a format will be required for posts. Just posting “blank vs blank” will no longer suffice as it requires no effort and encourages spam.

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Discussion: Discussion Flaired posts have no official format to follow but they will be removed at moderator discretion if they appear low effort or do not relate to the purpose of this sub.

Question: Question Flaired posts have no official format to follow but they will be removed at moderator discretion if they appear low effort or do not relate to the purpose of this sub.

Casual Debate: Casual Debate Flaired posts will be removed with no warning if they 1) Do not follow the official format, and/or 2) The same post was recently done (two weeks/14 days ago). Casual Debates need to contain the following —

  1. The Characters participating (which should be in the title)

  2. A starting distance

  3. A location (Doesn’t have to be a link, can be text, though a link for locations can be found here)

  4. Any perks/restriction/stipulations (such as if Full Moon is allowed or not, Avatar State or not, Sozin’s Comet or not, Bloodlusted characters or not, etc)

  5. If rounds are included, you need to specify your rules and location each time for each round (unless they are the same in which you only need to specify what exactly changed)

  6. A Respect Thread Link or Character Review Link (whichever is available) needs to be included with EVERY post. If a character doesn’t have one available at the moment, then skip over that character. RTs/CRs can be found here

Serious Debate: Serious Debate Flaired posts have the same requirements as a Casual Debate, except one additional thing is required. YOU as the poster, after adding in all of your format and links, have to explain who you think wins in your post. Your own answer must be DETAILED as such is required for anyone who comments too, so it’s only fair for the OP to be under the same judgement. Check here for more on how to use the Serious Debate flair.


r/AvatarVsBattles Aug 21 '21

Mod How to use the SERIOUS DEBATE flair and how to not get your comment “REMOVED”.

20 Upvotes

This post is intended for the users that keep wondering why I remove their comments and also for users new to the sub. This sparks up a lot so I’m making another one of these posts and pinning it because it’s tiring when people argue with the mods about why their “___ wins” comment gets removed.

1) The Serious Debate Flair is only for actual battles, not discussion-like posts. If you misuse it, your post is subject to having its flair changed or removal altogether. When you create a post that uses the Serious Debate Flair, you as the OP need to make a detailed post that contains the following: a starting distance, a location, any restrictions, and the characters participating.

2) As a person that comments, when someone uses the Serious Debate Flair, answers must be longer than a simple “____ wins”. Answers should be longer and detailed, even if the matchup seems like a stomp (here is an example of a detailed comment; though if a post is an obvious stomp (such as Zhao vs Ozai), we’ll just change the flair to Casual Debate. If you ever wondered what happened to your comment or other comments under a post, just know it was removed because of this reason.

Note: Your comment does not need to contain links to gifs in order for it to count.

Usually when a post contains Serious Debate, you will see one of the mods pin a comment like this:

OP has decided to use the SERIOUS DEBATE FLAIR. Answers with no follow up or very little reasoning given will be removed.

Yes this is a serious debate, but all uncivilized comments/threads/troll comments will be removed.

As a final thought, ARGUING WITH A MOD WILL NOT BRING YOUR COMMENT BACK. Just try again except with a more detailed and lengthy explanation.


r/AvatarVsBattles 2h ago

Discussion Ground Animals FFA

1 Upvotes

Naga vs Nyla vs Badgermole vs Sabertooth Moose Lion vs Sand Shark vs Flopsy

Location: Si Wong Rock Formation (where Gaang meets Sand benders)

Starting distance: 60 feet apart

16 votes, 6d left
Naga wins
Nyla wins
A badgermole wins
Sabertooth Moose Lion wins
Sand shark wins
Flopsy wins

r/AvatarVsBattles 2h ago

Casual Debate Viper vs. Yon Rha

1 Upvotes

Location: Ember Island
Starting distance: 20 feet

7 votes, 21h left
💧Viper wins
🔥Yon Rha wins

r/AvatarVsBattles 10h ago

Discussion Should the opening sequences of Avatar count as feats?

2 Upvotes

When Tenzin/Katara says all four elements and we see a bender for each element, should we give the character we know those feats in the intro? And would this happen in canon like are they training or in a fight during these? Usually this doesn't matter more since it's small scale feats but there is one particular reason why I'm asking this.

Avatar Kyoshi...

Not many people know this but I do say it a lot on social media but Kyoshi is really really bad at bending smaller pebbles. It's stated it's like having hands too thick to pick up a grain of sand. Of course a body builder can lift how many whatever lbs but not a grain of sand. Before earth bending training, Kyoshi could only bend rocks bigger than houses. Usually most earth benders started from small to big, but Kyoshi isn't like most earth benders. She started from big to small. She needs her fans to help concentrate her bending on smaller rocks. However in the TLOK intro, it's shown she had gotten over her struggle of earth bending smaller rocks by using just her bare fists.

There are also more cool things to talk about like

Sud...

The first earth bender to ever appear and bend a rock. Of course his feat isn't that great but the first earth bender the franchise ever saw was Sud! Roku's earth bending teacher who was supposed to be Toph!

Aang...

Tenzin does the same move as Aang as we know. It's really cool seeing experienced Aang air bend.

Azula...

She has red/orange flames but it's like the NATLA series where she had red/orange flames at first then it becomes blue. Remember that child Azula in Zuko Alone had red/orange flames.

81 votes, 6d left
Yes the opening sequence should be considered actual feats that occurred to the characters
No the opening sequence is just a demonstration of bending

r/AvatarVsBattles 11h ago

Casual Debate Royal Fire academy for girls vs Royal Fire academy for boys

2 Upvotes

Girls: Azula, Mai, Ty Lee, Hei-Ran, Rangi, Kiyi

Boys: Roku, Sozin, Yasu

Roku won't have AS

Location: Agni Kai arena

Starting distance: 30 feet

My take: Boys win because Sozin & Roku are both well aware of lightning and chi blocking. Roku's fire sphere can protect himself from a rockslide and incinerate rocks coming into the sphere. Sozin defeated a skilled earth bender who can throw boulders and use earth armor to almost crush Sozin's spine. Sozin killed Malaya in close range so I think Ty Lee wouldn't be too much of a threat to him. Both Roku & Sozin showed large scale fire bending. Furthermore, these two were in the best in their class. Sozin has very high battle iq as well, always defeating Roku in sparring in their teenage years, and even Azula glazed his battle iq in "Zuko Alone." Hei-Ran is a moderate threat to the trio but Roku knows how to counter fire benders using tunneling. With the addition of Roku's air bending, his air sphere can cover a large portion of his island. Roku can throw several wolves over a hill with air bending. Roku threw Sozin across the throne room with air bending. Roku in the northern capital with just air bending and fire bending, can defeat six of the strongest/most powerful northern water benders who were amped as well. Roku's earth bending is also highly valuable here since Toph could pin Azula to a wall. Roku can earth bend an earth wall across a volcano. There is also a drain of water near the location (where Katara outsmarted Azula) so Roku can use that. Roku has one insanely impressive water bending feat where he sent his master miles away to the North. Yasu while not believing lightning generation exists, sparred with Sozin more frequently as a child before he died. Yasu also did Agni Kai's on behalf of Roku which leads me to believe he could beat Kiyi. I believe Roku with fire, air, water and earth can defeat Azula & Hei-Ran. I think Sozin can defeat Rangi, Ty Lee, and Mai at once. Yasu will beat Kiyi.

39 votes, 6d left
Royal Fire Academy for Girls win
Royal Fire Academy for Boys win

r/AvatarVsBattles 13h ago

Casual Debate Novel final battle villains

0 Upvotes

I probably should of just done unanimity as 1 slot but oh well

Six rounds:
Round 1: Chin village/Qinchao
Round 2: Kyoshi island/yakoya
Round 3: Bin-Er
Round 4: Taku
Round 5: Sacred cave from lambak island
Round 6: Agna Qel’a

25 votes, 10h left
Jianzhu
Yun (post fusion)
Yingsu
Thapa
Ulo
Atka

r/AvatarVsBattles 1d ago

Discussion Strongest Avatars Villains FFA

4 Upvotes

Yun vs General Old Iron vs Father Glowworm vs Ulo vs Tagah vs Dark Avatar Unalaq

GOI has armor, FGW is pre Kuruk weakening, Ulo has sacred cave amp, Tagah doesn't have staff, Dark Avatar Unalaq doesn't have Dark Avatar State. Yun is Post Fusion

Location: Tree of Time

Starting distance: 100 feet apart each

129 votes, 5d left
Yun wins
General Old Iron wins
Father Glowworm wins
Ulo wins
Tagah wins
Dark Avatar Unalaq wins

r/AvatarVsBattles 1d ago

Casual Debate Viper vs. Haru

1 Upvotes

Location: Kyoshi Island
Starting distance: 20 feet

19 votes, 2h ago
12 💧Viper wins
7 🪨Haru wins

r/AvatarVsBattles 1d ago

Casual Debate The White Lotus vs Lightning Generators

0 Upvotes

Team White Lotus includes Iroh, Jeong Jeong, Bumi, Pakku, Piandao, and one white lotus sentry

Team Lightning Generators include Ozai, Azula, Mako, Xu Ping An, Zolt, and Iroh II

Location: Crystal Catacombs

Starting distance: 30 feet

My take: Lightning generators win. Ozai beats Iroh. Azula beats Jeong Jeong. Xu Ping An and Iroh II can defeat Bumi. Mako can hold off Pakku until someone finishes their fight. Zolt can defeat the sentry, but lose to Piandao.

58 votes, 5d left
The White Lotus wins
Lightning Generators wins

r/AvatarVsBattles 1d ago

Casual Debate Avatars (no AS) vs Blood Benders

0 Upvotes

Avatars Include Movie Aang, Korra, Roku, Yangchen, Kyoshi, and Wan

Blood benders include Movie Katara, Amon, Tarrlok, Yakone, and Hama

AS is restricted and not allowed

Full Moon is on

Location: Tree of Time

Starting distance: 40 feet

Who wins this 6v5?

My take: Blood benders win because of blood bending. Neither of these avatars can resist because Avatar State isn't allowed.

191 votes, 5d left
Avatars win
Blood benders win

r/AvatarVsBattles 2d ago

Character Review Respect Guru Laghima

5 Upvotes

Info:

Guru Laghima was born 4,000 years ago in the Northern Air Temple, having unlocked the secret of weightlessness aka Flight. He was a legendary poet, even discussed about 4,000 years later.

Feats:

In the early development of Avatar, Bryan & Mike the creators of Avatar had the highest level air bending move of "Becoming Wind" which is essentially flight.

Zaheer stated/implied from Laghima's poetry that Laghima used the ability of flight for his last 40 years (Timestamp 0:50.) This would mean Laghima would psychic air bend for 40 years straight even while unconscious when sleeping.

Laghima was born before the four nations; lived same period as Shoken who was older than the four nations historically. Even though he was born so long ago, Laghima looked like he had the same tattoos from modern era which suggests air bending mastery even before he stopped touching the ground for 40 years.

Laghima could accidentally knock down an air nomad pilgrim without looking by just levitating upwards which caused winds to knock down the papers in the air nomad's hand as well as the air nomad herself.

Laghima is implied to fly higher than the clouds.

Yangchen was thrown into temptation into trying Laghima's ability of flight, but decided for another day. After she passed away, she told another air avatar she concluded that the Avatar (which includes herself) can never detach themselves, implying she never discovered the ability of flight (Time stamp is 4:40.)

Sources:

Wisdom, The Legend of Korra, The Legacy of Yangchen, The Rise of Kyoshi, Avatar: The Last Airbender, Enter the Void commentary Blu Ray of the creators Mike & Bryan.

Where I scale him:

Above Flight Zaheer, around the level of pre teen Aang.


r/AvatarVsBattles 2d ago

Casual Debate Viper vs. Fire Nation Man

2 Upvotes

Location: Kyoshi Island
Starting distance: 20 feet

26 votes, 1d ago
20 💧Viper wins
6 🪨Fire Nation Man wins

r/AvatarVsBattles 2d ago

Casual Debate Aang's Side Villains vs Protectors of Korra

3 Upvotes

Aang's side villains include Combustion Man, Hama, Jet, Long Feng

Protectors of Korra includes Tonraq, Zuko, Tenzin, and Sokka

Everyone is show versions only

Location: Tree of Time

Starting distance: 40 feet

My take: Protectors of Korra win this one. If they won against the red lotus, they surely got this one in the bag. Aang's side villains are a slightly weaker variation of the Red Lotus so they got this.

112 votes, 4d left
Aang's Side Villains win
Protectors of Korra wins

r/AvatarVsBattles 2d ago

Discussion Avatar Fire Companions FFA

2 Upvotes

Mako vs EOS Zuko vs Sozin vs Rangi vs Hei-Ran vs Yingsu

Location: Agni Kai Arena

Starting distance: 30 feet each

Zuko is show version only.

61 votes, 4d left
Mako wins
Show Zuko wins
Sozin wins
Rangi wins
Hei-Ran wins
Yingsu wins

r/AvatarVsBattles 2d ago

Discussion Red Lotus FFA

3 Upvotes

Flight Zaheer vs Ming Hua vs Pre Fusion Unalaq vs Ghazan vs P'li vs Aiwaei + 1 Red Lotus Sentry

1v1v1v1v1v2

Location: Tree of Time

Starting distance: 30 feet each

81 votes, 4d left
Flight Zaheer wins
Ming Hua wins
Pre Fusion Unalaq wins
Ghazan wins
P'li wins
Aiwaei + 1 Red Lotus Sentry wins

r/AvatarVsBattles 3d ago

Casual Debate Xin Fu vs. Kai

2 Upvotes

Location: Ba Sing Se Lower Ring
Starting distance: 20 feet

18 votes, 2d ago
11 🪨Xin Fu wins
7 🌪️Kai wins

r/AvatarVsBattles 3d ago

Casual Debate Team Hype Benders vs The White & Red Lotus

0 Upvotes

Team Hype benders includes Laghima, Oma, Gyatso, Sozin, Lu Beifong, Hei-Ran, Taqukaq, Disha, Jianzhu, and Kelsang

The White & Red Lotus includes Piandao, Jeong Jeong, Bumi, Iroh, Pakku, Pre Fusion Unalaq, P'li, Flight Zaheer, Ghazan, and Ming Hua

Location: Tree of Time

Starting distance: 100 feet

Who wins the 10v10?

My take: Team Hype benders win. Laghima could defeat Flight Zaheer. Oma can defeat Piandao. Sozin can defeat Jeong Jeong. Gyatso can defeat Iroh. Kelsang can defeat Ghazan. Jianzhu likely defeats P'li. Hei-Ran can defeat Pakku. Lu Beifong trained Jianzhu so he can probably stand up against pre fusion Unalaq until someone helps him. Taqukaq can win against Ming Hua. Disha trained Gyatso & Roku in air bending so she could hold off Bumi until the other team members finish their fight and help her.

23 votes, 3d left
Team Hype Benders wins
White & Red Lotus wins

r/AvatarVsBattles 3d ago

Discussion Avatars Earth Companions FFA

1 Upvotes

Show Toph vs Bolin vs Jianzhu vs Lek + Lao Ge + Wong vs Sud

Location: The Great Divide

Starting distance: 30 feet

115 votes, 3d left
12 Year Old Toph wins
Bolin wins
Jianzhu wins
Lek + Lao Ge + Wong wins
Sud wins

r/AvatarVsBattles 3d ago

Discussion AANG VS TOPH WHO WILL WIN

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0 Upvotes

r/AvatarVsBattles 4d ago

Casual Debate Xin Fu vs. General Fong

2 Upvotes

Location: Earth Rumble Arena
Starting distance: 20 feet

13 votes, 3d ago
2 🪨Xin Fu wins
11 🪨Fong wins

r/AvatarVsBattles 4d ago

Casual Debate Northern Water Tribe vs Jharana

1 Upvotes

Northern Water Tribe's team includes Amon, Tarrlok, Pakku, Post Fusion Unalaq, Eska, Desna

Jharana's team includes Tagah, Sonam, and four standard sky bisons

Location: Tree of Time

AS/DAS/Blood Bending are allowed and totally okay to use

Starting distance: 50 feet

Jharana members do not have the staff in this fight

Vote and comment down what you think 🫵

54 votes, 2d left
Northern Water Tribe wins
Jharana wins

r/AvatarVsBattles 4d ago

Discussion New revelation on Spirit Bending

5 Upvotes

In the Awakening of Roku, we have the first scene in which spirit bending is invented, and it's done on Gyatso. Context is Gyatso got infected by a spiritual poison which inverts your energy, amping Gyatso's bending but makes him not in control of his own mind. When Gyatso was spirit bent, he was cured of the poison but remained passed out for several days. When Gyatso was poisoned, he had purple sores all over him. It's also stated the poison cannot be spread like a virus so Gyatso cannot spread it onto someone else. The poison was also stated to invert Gyatso's chi. Spirit bending is also a healing technique within water bending, usually done when you're extremely connected with spirits or trained by someone who is. Spirit bending in a way is similar to Amon's combination of blood bending and chi blocking due to affecting your chi. What spirit bending actually does is changing a spirit/human's chi from negative energy into positive energy.

However, what was Unalaq doing to Korra after Korra opened the second spirit portal? Unalaq seemed to spirit bend Korra's spirit but instead of glowing which represents positive energy, it was purple which represents negative energy like Vaatu's beam. Unalaq was the only spirit bender to have done that move although it didn't work. It was heavily implied it could have corrupted Korra's soul if it worked. Would this mean Unalaq could spirit bend light/good spirits? Could he spirit bend an Avatar in the avatar state? I would assume it would be the opposite but similar effect/opponents. Would Yun, Tokuga, or Tagah/Denied have inverted chi which would make them vulnerable to spirit benders? I would say it wouldn't work on Yun, Tokuga, Tagah, or any Avatars except for Dark Avatar Unalaq even without Unavaatu. Also many people have assumed spirit bending can work on any spirit but it only works on dark spirits whose chi is inverted. If it worked on any spirit then I would say spirit benders can spirit bend Yun, Tagah, and avatars but it doesn't work like that. It depends on who you consider as dark spirits whose chi is inverted. I don't believe spirit bending would work on Father Glowworm, General Old Iron, or Wan Shi Tong but it would work on Hei-Bai.

What do yall think?


r/AvatarVsBattles 4d ago

Discussion Elemental Masters of Gaang, Krew, White & Red Lotus FFA

1 Upvotes

Water: Ming Hua, Pakku, Movie Katara, and Korra

Earth: Ghazan, Aiwaei, Bumi, Movie Toph, and Bolin

Fire: Iroh, Jeong Jeong, P'li, Mako, and Movie Zuko

Air: Flight Zaheer, Movie Aang, and Tenzin

Non benders: Movie Sokka, Suki, Asami, Piandao

Avatars can only use their respective native elements of course without the Avatar State.

Location: Tree of Time

Starting distance: 50 feet apart each

76 votes, 2d left
Krew/Gaang/White/Red Lotus Water wins
Krew/Gaang/White/Red Lotus Earth Wins
Krew/Gaang/White/Red Lotus Fire wins
Krew/Gaang/White/Red Lotus Air wins
Krew/Gaang/White/Red Lotus Non benders wins

r/AvatarVsBattles 5d ago

Casual Debate Sozin vs. Ming-Hua

5 Upvotes

Location: Ember Island
Starting distance: 20 feet

162 votes, 4d ago
105 🔥Sozin wins
57 💧Ming-Hua wins