Hey everyone,

I made a post on r/CampingGear with a pretty big overview of outdoor brands, and my first thought was to post it here too for sure since it might be an interesting list to look at. It's not a repost since this sub doesn't allow them. I was always a bit ignorant on who owns what (I thought Helly Hansen was Norwegian, turns out it had been taken over by American investors a while ago, same with iconic brands like Hunter, or Salomon by Chinese investors for example), and my curiosity to find out who owns what and what is produced where led me a bit far, but the end result is quite interesting to see.

To include everything outdoor related would be a bit much, so I've stripped it down to a 'Wear & Carry' category, which includes clothing, footwear, backpacks etc and sleeping bags. To make the list the brand has to either be quite popular worldwide (e.g. Patagonia), very popular nationally (e.g. MEC in Canada), or a titan within a niche community (e.g. Tilak).

I’ve categorized them into 8 categories furthermore based on their ownership and factory footprint, namely EU and US owned, each split into different subcategories depending on overall production, a non-EU, US or CN category, and a CN-owned category.

A few things to call out before the list:

• 'owned & produced' means majority owned by an EU or US corporation or family and also produced there. The minimum is atleast 90%. With EU I mean Europe, not just the Union. For 'partial produced' a particular brand can be listed here if regional production is roughly between 20-90%.
'outsourced' means that the vast majority of stuff they sold, more than 80% atleast, is produced from outside the EU or US (mostly China and southern Asia ofcourse).

• I'm judging production by compromising between overall volume sold and total catalogue listing, and that combined with intentional vagueness and sometimes outdated sources means that these are rough estimates.

• The Owner category lists the current majority shareholder, or straight up 100% family ownership, with the country that corporation/family is from (Fenix Outdoor (SE) is from Sweden for example)

• "Origin" just shows the historical birth country of the brand, not necesarily the current owners' location.

• You could obviously see this as a tierlist of sorts, with EU & US owned and produced being the best; this isn't necesarily so ofcourse, since alot of quality gear can come from Asia. This list can simply help create more awareness and give a more informed understanding and decisionmaking.

EU ———— EU owned & produced ————

EU ———— EU owned, partial produced ————

EU ———— EU owned, outsourced —————

US ———— US owned & produced ————

US ——— US owned, partial produced ———

US ———— US owned, outsourced —————

🌏 ——— Non-EU, US, or CN Owned ————

CN —————— Chinese Owned ——————

Let me know if any recent corporate shifts slipped past me or if I've missed any major brands following my clothing definition. Things about who owns what exactly are sometimes a bit vague or outdated, which makes it a bit difficult, and production is often intentionally kept even more vague. Let me know what you guys think.

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I've checked the other threads here but most of them look way too techy.
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