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u/invisimole 2d ago
What seasonal cards are good in general to get for, say, dps or support? Is vulnerability the way?
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u/Careless-Arachnid 2d ago
Hate to use it because it doesn't help you much, but it really depends on what you are doing with them. You are sort of on the money, in that the best ones are usually damage amplification of some kind, or occassionally draw power. Vulnerability specifically fluctuates drastically in effectiveness depending on how much you apply, the opportunity cost for applying it, and how much damage you are able to multiply with it. Additive damage is more popular, because it is easier to get the benefit from, since many card spammers eat through all the vulnerability too quickly. If you are specifically talking about the season cards this season, the supports are mostly looking to fill their teams synergy to have all the bonus effects. Claim, Survival, Inquiry, and Control all have valuable effects, and you have to make a conscious decision which ones you want, and that informs what season card you end up on, sometimes being a hard brick you barely play just to proc the always active synergies. As far as cards supports fully intend to play every cycle this season, as far as I am aware it is just sample collection (1 mana draw 2 at level 3) and gilded obsession (only one that self procs the claim synergy). Sorry for the wordy answer, but I really didn't leave it at just "it depends", and was writing while getting interrupted at work. It goes much deeper than what I presented here, but maybe it can help you formulate a process for your teambuilding and save data.
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u/WFBO_ChiTaki 2d ago
Making a blind ranking for archetype cards, without knowing precise decks you wanna use them for:
Claim:
Sever Ties = Narcissism > Obsession (dps) = Gilded Nest (sup) > It's all mineInquiry:
Sample Collection > Forbidden Hypothesis > Sensory Overload > Knowledge Addiction > Postmortem analysisControl:
Kneel before me > Mark of Servitude > Order of Dominance > Traitors Execution > Indiscriminate SlaughterSurvival:
Driven Hunt >>> Harrowing Reign > Final Struggle > Cutting Loose > FeralizationPersonally I'd consider Driven Hunt the best card you probably want to have in the end if given the opportunity (Ranger/Hunter only though), and Feralization + Indiscriminate Slaughter are active hindrances.
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u/medic1337 2d ago
Is there a universal guide on how to tackle deck building? What to keep from chaos runs, which cards to edit, which variables/mods to upgrade etc. Maybe online tools?
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u/Apart_Temporary_4560 2d ago
No, because every character is different. Making a unique deck is part of the fun. If you want to copy someone's deck though, you can find some decks on cznmeta.
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u/ArchmageRick 2d ago
Do both of the limited banners carry pity over? Or is there one to avoid as they expire?
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u/Global_Nothing_3325 Order 1d ago
They both carry over but are independant.
The featured banner shares pity with any future featured banners (i.e any pulls done on Arabella's banner will carry over to Olga's banner), while the rerun banner shares pity with any future rerun banners.
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u/ArchmageRick 1d ago
Ok that is what I looking for, thank you! So is there not always going to be an active rerun banner?
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u/Global_Nothing_3325 Order 1d ago
I haven't been paying enough attention to it, but unless I'm wrong it should be updated every ~4 weeks or something like that (the info should be in the patch notes if you want to have exact periods).
I believe there are some periods where it stops for a week or so, but unless they change their model it should be consistantly present going forward.
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u/Global_Nothing_3325 Order 1d ago
Went back to the patch notes to make sure about the periods.
Haru's rerun was from June 17 to July 8 -> 3 weeks
Yuki from July 21 to August 11 -> 3 weeks (after a 2-week break)
Chizuru (current rerun) from August 11 to September 1 -> 3 weeks (no break)The next rerun was not announced in Arabella's patch notes (who's patch ends on September 9), so it's possible we'll have a 1 to 2-week break before the next rerun banner again.
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u/saint2388 19h ago
I’ve got a Devine epiphany on a card I want to copy but I can’t because it’ll put me over 180. Is there a way I can add a basic version of the card to keep me under? The only way I can think is to remove the Devine card, add the normal version, copy it and then add Devine back to one of the cards? Thanks everyone.
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u/namemevirus 18h ago
Change the divine epiphany to be a variant that will be removed when you change the unique epiphany -> Change the card's unique epiphany to the variant that won't have a divine epiphany -> duplicate the card -> change the unique epiphanies back to how you eanted them to be and give one of your cards a divine epiphany if you have enough save data
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u/saint2388 18h ago
I looked at doing that but changing the Devine to a regular said it would still be 140 points so I thought that wouldn’t work as it’d still end up putting me over 180?
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u/saint2388 19h ago
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u/saint2388 19h ago
Not sure if I described it correctly but I essentially want one more protect us but not Devine so it’s under 180
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u/Global_Nothing_3325 Order 18h ago
Considering the cores you have, doing as you said (remove, add back, duplicate the divine epiphany one of the copies) is probably the easiest way.
The other solution would save you a "remove" and "add" Cores, but will instead need a "re-epiphany" Core and more "divine" Cores.
I would usually recommend against editing the Save Data in the first place as it doesn't have any Season advantage and the equipments aren't really useful, but considering the amount of resources you have you might as well if you don't want to keep farming decks.
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u/saint2388 17h ago
I have tons of re-epiphany cores how would I do it the other way?
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u/Global_Nothing_3325 Order 14h ago
Three steps to follow:
- Reroll the divine epiphany on Protect Us to one of the following:
- Apply Combo to this card
- At the start of the turn, change cost of this card to 0-3
- Harmonization: 2 AP on the next turn
- Re-epiphany the card to the 0-cost version (which will remove the divine epiphany), then re-epiphany again to the desired version
- Duplicate the card and add a Divine epiphany to one of the copies
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u/Kikklik 18h ago
Are you sure you want build that deck? Protect us probably needs divines more than anything else there.
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u/saint2388 17h ago
Yeah I saw another deck which gave it the Devine and took it off the other one which makes sense
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u/DansLaPeau 11h ago
Do you guys end the chaos run when you don't get what you need from senectus? I'm trying to get the gun but all I get is defense items. Should I continue and hope for something usable or just end and restart?
I'm trying to figure out the best strategy time-wise.
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u/Prestigious-Stop-989 11h ago
Depends on how min-max you want to be. For me personally, since I was dead set on getting Senectus weapon WITH specific gear. I'd play like normal, and always go for the body/accessory I wanted, and just hope that if Senectus comes around, I get the Gun/Sword depending on who it's for. If I didn't get either, immediately end run and restart. Or if I get Senectus early before the armor/accessory and also not the 2 weapons I want? Immediately end and restart.
Unfortunately, there's no better way. Now, if you're ok with JUST having Senectus Gun, and don't care too much about the other stuff, you'll save some time.
You can save even more time if you don't want to min-max and use a Senectus Gun (Sword for your supports is a different story in my opinion, as there's no other weapon that can really do that and provide your entire team 8% attack, especially your main dps..)
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u/DansLaPeau 11h ago
Yeah I was just trying to get the gun and then the fairy crown from the shop for my HDMI. But I guess I will keep trying.


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