yup CN is still reeling from the censorship and nerfs drama they dont trust the devs anymore with this so called "Balance Patches" and finding "Balance" in a gacha game
Flipping your shit over nerfs is incredibly emotionally immature. And lets not pretend they freaked out because a few of the equipment nerfs were a little harsh, they just didn't like "number go down".
No it wasn't. They what raised a sink about was S3 balance adjustment. CZN had launched with censored designs in CN it was doing fine until that happened
Cn is 275k (down 80% from last month), global is 3m (up 150%). Can say the bridge has burnt down for cn. Hopefully dev will just focus more on global side and not try to lick over the big fish.
Global can only give you so much cash, they aren't big spenders. The fastest way for a far east asian gacha to die is to try to cater to the west. They are better off trying to gamble gaining back the CN market because thats were money is. Though I don't think it'll happen, CN players aren't like westerners, they don't like getting fucked over and they don't forget.
Yes, people are too accommodated to doom post every gacha game, CZN need to understand that money is money, they're paying everyone salary, are able to expand the studio and pay the shareholders.
Definitely makes more than enough for a 2d chibi game.
And what's the point if game is top 10 revenue. People act as if they are investors who get paid dividends lol. I care about a well made game that's player friendly instead of games that try to sell e2 merchants for higher revenue every month.
It's true, the game will be alive for a long time. But I think living with an income of 11 million is more pleasant than with an income of 3 million (on a limited character).
Man i don't know how can they recover the cn market seems that those last decisions about nerfing things made cn lose trust in devs decision making.. damn i hope the anni will be helpfull to gain cn market trust again because things ain't looking good down there..
Imho I'm surprised Arabella sold this much. For me she doesn't looks like a limited and not unique enough as a limited. What I mean is a limited unit should work around an archetype, like Sereniel is for break and HDMI is fro discard while Arabella is just for Fracture instead of DEBUFF/DOT as a whole.
I mean yes? At least partially. I think the biggest factor is her being limited and her kit not sucking doesn't hurt nor boost her sales. If you compare her with HDMI or Sereniel she did sell quite a bit less though.
Rolled for her 2 dupes.. Didn't know what class or element she was... And now I'm finding out she is limited?... I saw a cute character and rolled for her.. That's it.
Ps.. What is fracture? Did they add a new element?
Sg is a good dev that buffs their units , so I'm not too worried. It's either that or olga is going to be a very good buff unit that makes arabella deal dmg on par with heide or higher
I love this game, but have no desire to pay a dime for some reason. Funny because I sank a small fortune into Final Fantasy Opera Omnia when it was on.
I love this game, but ironically I spend way less than I have on other gachas. Puzzle and Dragons for example, which is a VERY generous gacha, it was just so easy to drop $100 because it gave you a ton of rolls. I wish CZN had a google points credit incentive like PAD has, I would use all my points here. But between no Google point credit incentive, and the fact that rolls are just so dang expensive here, I have only spent on the monthly battlepass.
I feel like it would be a scummy move, but honestly if they lowered the price of rolls, but also dropped the pull rate of 5stars, many like myself would be more inclined to purchase pulls. Not saying they should, I just feel that a model like that would have brought in more money for them. People just want to gamble, don't they? Just the thrill of rolling.
expected more for a limited atleast 5mil, did way less than Heide and Sereniel, especially being as nsfw Arabella is, thought this is what the target audience wanted
Someone else already response but this is mainly for the CN side, these are the consequences of not communicating properly with your community it also doesn't help that Arabella is probably the weakest limited, her design and the anniv is coming. See how the devs forget about her existence when the season finish just to release a new buff that says "reduce dot DMG -80%" or something like that.
This is what happens when you overemphasize waifu characters instead of the lore and worldbuilding. I can't help wondering if the story, character designs, and even the revenue would've turned out better if the devs had just ignored that stupid Owen drama over a fucking "👌" gesture.
Right now, the lore feels kinda flat to me, while the character designs keep leaning harder and harder into male gooner bait. And sadly, CN censorship makes that even more complicated. When the lore isn't strong enough to make a character stand out, what else is left for players to pull for? Powercreep.
And then there's Arabella... honestly, her outfit looks like some cheap BDSM costume I accidentally ordered from Temu.
So I wouldn't be surprised if CN players increasingly prioritize meta/powercreep characters over characters carried by meaningful lore or strong character writing. And honestly, I can't really blame Chinese players for that. If the game isn't giving them compelling lore or characters to get attached to, why should they pull?
That's a pretty unfortunate direction for a game that originally had such an interesting identity.
I think that's exactly the problem I'm talking about, though. If the lore mainly exists to create different factions of girls that follow specific tropes, then the lore becomes more of a framework for selling characters rather than something that makes the world and characters genuinely compelling.
Just look at Limbus Company. Personally, I find its gameplay kinda clunky and laggy sometimes, yet somehow the game has managed to survive and maintain its audience without constantly releasing gooner female characters. It also has plenty of male characters who are just as important to the story and fanbase.
That's why I think strong writing and worldbuilding can carry a game much further than simply making every new character more attractive or appealing to one demographic. If the character itself is compelling because of its story, personality, and role in the world, people have a reason to care about them regardless of gender or how fanservice-heavy their design is.
CZN originally felt like it had that potential. That's what made its current direction feel so disappointing to me.
Limbus, R1999, Arknights, Genshin, Honkai, FGO, Granblue offer world and stories that make their playerbase hooked and loyal.
Sadly CZN doesnt have that, maybe they could have had that but even before the main story revamp just how the seasons' stories play out just showed the direction is going for.
I got baited by the ads, by the beta test, by the leaks of all the cool characters that look appropriate and actually well designed, but this is what we get, introduce female character, sad backstory(optional), gets help from shikicum, parasocial bait, repeat, ontop of how bad they all look and inappropriate they dress in context with the world. With a few exceptions (Tenebria, Heidemarie,Adhd,Diana(?))
Limbus, R1999, Arknights, Genshin, Honkai, FGO, Granblue offer world and stories that make their playerbase hooked and loyal
Rico (the dragon girl NPC from Season 2) might've been the starkest example. All those gachas can excel at making NPCs who feel like living aspects of the worldbuilding and story, with memorable character arcs, and oftentimes make fans wish they'll be playable units one day.
CZN could've don't something cool with her. After how involved she was in chapter 1 with getting captured with MC and friends in the colosseum, she could've been a standout element across the s2 story with her dreams of reviving her civilization. But instead each chapter focused on girl-of-current-banner and Rico got kicked to the curb.
I still enjoy CZN but their storytelling has a ceiling. It is what it is.
Yeah you're getting downvoted because the only people left on this sub are the gooners, everyone else moved on and the gooners are in denial that leaning harder into the oversexualization has harmed the game's popularity despite the massive drop in both revenue and online engagement. It's funny that despite constantly being told 'but all the games designs are already pure gooner' the number one most anticipated character from release has always been Luche which is by far the least oversexualized character in the game. But I'm fairly certain the art designer that made her and the Battle Pass partner art is no longer working on the game; the creativity and nuance is just gone from all the newer characters art.
The other mistake they made was catering to casuals. The second they revealed how save data worked publicly it represented a clear signal they were going to make the game easier and easier over time. It's a classic example of the perils in listening to the most vocal online people and trying to design games around random feedback despite people already enjoying and playing your game like crazy.
That's what happens when they focus on their target audience and release uncensored characters. I quit spending on this game after Tiphera, and I'm back to spending now after Season 4.
Because I want the game to stay made for me. I like what here's right now and I don't want them to switch up to attract people who don't like what I do.
Honestly, it is higher than i expected it to be. I doubt many would look at this game for many reasons. cant help but be distracted at sword and staff is that high up, I tried it for a few days and thought it was boring, only did it for the konosuba cross-over. Suprised and a bit happy umamusume is going strong.
I mean Clash of Critters is doing half of it too. These mobile games honestly just really earn a lot more than we expect. No doubt its overhead cost is like x3 less than CZN's (well, but their marketing must be x10 cost). Heck, Battle Cats is doing x2 of CZN and it's 13 years old lol
wasnt that month closer to 6million too? Anniversary still showing stronger sales unlike the delulu people on reddit says. Thats why 1st Anniversay aka s5 will do much more than 3,275,000
So you spent a whole year just sitting on the red chair, only to suddenly start shitposting specifically on the czn sub? That’s even more pathetic, lmao
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u/Past_Net_9020 8h ago
CN revenue down 80% , global revenue up 150% lol
Evidently global down bad