r/CommandCode • u/diaracing • 2d ago
For those who recently used both OpenCode-go and CommandCode-goat
Hello everyone,
After the recent mess surrounding OpenCode Go’s pricing and quota changes, I have a few questions for those who decided to migrate from OpenCode Go to CommandCode GOAT:
Model Quality: Are CommandCod-goat models nerfed or heavily quantized compared to official provider endpoints?
Value / Advantage: Is there any proven numerical advantage (tokens-per-dollar, speed, or usable throughput) when using the exact same models on CommandCode-goat versus OpenCode-go?
Quota Pool Architecture: Does each model have its own isolated quota without affecting the others? Or does its consumption count toward a shared monthly plan limit (e.g., using a weighting multiplier like the plan quota divided by the model base quota, such as $20 / $40 / $70 tiers)?
Thanks in advance for your insights!
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u/adamizzo17 2d ago
the model quality i dont really know about any nerfs but might be i am not sure, here is my usage and you can judge for uourself, i am hitting high cache hit ratio like 99 percentile so take that in consideration, yes everything does have a shared pool in the end because it wouldnt make sense to seperate their usage and they need to bleed into each other, i am using mainly dsv4 flash with sometimes dsv4 pro always on non peak periods
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u/2mqqvc0q 2d ago
Which harness do you use?
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u/adamizzo17 2d ago
Oh my pi, and also caveman and maybe other skills there too perhaps
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u/Homeless_CEO_ 1d ago
Can you name some useful skill/plugins you use? I'm new in the agentic coding scene.
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u/adamizzo17 1d ago
to be honest i would recommend a dual system of planner/Boss and builder/minion, where the first decides the system and how is it going to be built and acts as the brain of the opration and then it spawns subagents with a lower quality model that only handles building the code and the brain handles checking if it works or not, the brain in this case require skills like GSD skillset or bundle ( get stuff done ) and the builder or minion require skills like superpowers skillset both can be found in claudecode marketplace for skills r just online, also very important is to add the LSP for specific build which serves like the dictionary or guide for the ai to not make any mistakes like for example if you are using flutter you should use Dart LSP, also dont forget to also incorporate specific language skills like flutter skilss pack if you are using flutter and so on, also you could use graphify and caveman to reduce token costs as well as they shrink token usage tho be carfeul when using them, thats about it, anything else ?
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u/Homeless_CEO_ 1d ago
This is golden. Thank you so much!!!
I use command code (goat plan) as the minion and gpt sol (api) as the planner. Do you have any suggestions which coding harness to use in my case?
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u/adamizzo17 1d ago
to be honest, oh my pi seems the one for me at least, when it comes to coding you do want something kinda lean because tickets can go wild ( in the span of the past 2 months i have had 2 opencode go + commandcode subs squeeze fully out and even the clinpass i have now is half dead in just on day of usage ) so somthing with cache hit ratio above 98 percent is quite good, for me and many other oh my pi hits the spot just about right and yo ucan find it in github and gaining fan traction.
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u/Homeless_CEO_ 17h ago
Thank you so much for being such a good teacher. I genuinely learned so much from you.
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u/mrtonioz 1d ago
I'm also using caveman (which is good) but also https://pi.dev/packages/@dietrichgebert/ponytail, love using it and running a wild audit on few (legocy/not personal/trash) codebases that I'm heriting, truly efficient imo.
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u/Homeless_CEO_ 17h ago
You using pi harness too?? And this skill looks so useful. Do you have any other recommendations?
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u/mrtonioz 16h ago
Yes loving pi it's awesome ! I started with oh-my-pi the all-in-one pi and I recommend as it's shopped with prebuilt extensions, use it, see where it takes you and then you will (might) move to pi once you have your config in mind.
Main recommendation : scroll through the pi extension doc page to find good extensions, it is truly useful to find what you want, my pi config is changing from time to time as my workflow is still experimental.
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u/Homeless_CEO_ 15h ago
Thank you so much for taking the time to teach me. Really excited to try out your recommendations.
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u/lincolnthalles 2d ago
Nearly the same thing, just a bit more flaky than OpenCode Go. They share many of the upstream providers.
I used OpenCode Go for months.
CommandCode seems to offer more value, but this month I used a lot of the free "Ox Alpha" (GLM-5.3 Flash) and Muse Spark, which has a huge quota, so my observations are skewed. I still have 67% of my quota left for the next 14 days.
No provider offers $60 for one model, $70 for another, and $30 for another across different quotas. It's all consumed by ratio from the same pool.
The Requests/month gives you a better idea of how much inference you can actually do, since being able to consume $70 in a month from a very expensive model results in just a few requests.
Favor models with 20 K+ estimated requests. Pick models that balance a high intelligence index and a high estimated request count to make good use of your sub.
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u/_1dayoumay_ 2d ago
I’ve used them both in the past week mainly DSV4 Flash and Qwen 3.8 Flash and the quality was much worse using command code. Also after I enabled ZDR the cost went up significantly more. Also I hit the weekly limit in just 3 days of usage for which the cause was the ZDR I think. So overall I will not be coming back to CC. I’m not telling anyone what to do, but for me OC gets you better performance for cost and CC.
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u/Neuroactive 1d ago
Thank for this - nobody is talking about how CC's costing/usage limits are changed by ZDR, which is critical for my use case. The fact that OC offers ZDR for most of its models - especially by default on DS-Flash (through today at least), is what's keeping me with them for now.
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u/Potential-Leg-639 1d ago
Agree, I dont really trust their usage stats (CC). After 1-2 says light usage my MONTHLY limit was at around 40%.
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u/diaracing 2d ago
Your analysis is what I looked for.
I don't get easily hyped by just numbers; performance and quality matter the most.
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u/2mqqvc0q 2d ago
I can vouch for this. ZDR really does jack up the cost. To what extent, though, I'm not sure.
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u/Otagamo 2d ago
I used only DS4F in Opencode Go, after the price increased I changed to CommandCode Goat So far i'm not noticing any difference in quality, the main advantage is that GOAT offer double usage of DS4F compared to GO
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u/ExpertPerformer 2d ago
Same experience here. I only use DS v4 Flash and I'm pretty sure CommandCode routes to DeepSeek direct (OpenCode used too before provider swap) because I notice zero difference on the model.
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u/mrtonioz 2d ago
Hey ! Data scientist building web apps, ml and data pipelines day-2-day. Using both of them (recent upgrade to opencode-go and goat plan ~3 weeks) and quite happy with it, usage seems better with opencode-go (seems more token based on intuition, not stats) but cc is only better for dsv4f. This site can help you to make decisions : https://ai-10-usd.all-the.rest/
To me seems the best 20$ to spend currently for ai coding.