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u/Civil-Zone-2773 2d ago
Seriously, why do communists support the Russian Federation so much, acting like they arent a neo-fascist state and that they have close ties with is-not-real. Especially the people on ShitLiberalsSay, even though most of the non-Russia stuff they talk about is lowkey valid.
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u/WetOnionRing 2d ago
They don’t, but specifically when it comes to Ukraine vs Russia, Russia is the more pragmatic side since they stand with the third world
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u/Civil-Zone-2773 2d ago
I thought that choosing the better evil is still choosing an evil? I would rather support actual communist movements over the world, no matter how idealistic, than an imperial one.
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u/kriig 2d ago
Yea, but one evil is the one selling oil to Cuba and the other is one of the blockers biggest allies (or not, since Trump). I root for current Russia's downfall, and I don't see many people actually choosing them, and most often see people bitterly side with Russia specifically on this matter
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u/Simple_Duty_4441 Stalin Did Nothing Wrong 2d ago
so that gives russia the right to call any nation "illegitimate" and invade it, and you guys would support it no matter what? nice story, "comrade".
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u/MidWestKhagan 1d ago
If they do it’s probably because they’re new and haven’t read the material. Or they’re looking for aesthetics and trying to make people upset as a counter culture thing rather than genuinely understanding commmunism.
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u/Quiri1997 2d ago
Picture to yourselves a slave-owner who owned 100 slaves warring against a slave-owner who owned 200 slaves for a more "just" distribution of slaves. Clearly, the application of the term "defensive" war, or war "for the defence of the fatherland" in such a case would be historically false, and in practice would be sheer deception of the common people, of philistines, of ignorant people, by the astute slaveowners. Precisely in this way are the present-day imperialist bourgeoisie deceiving the peoples by means of "national ideology and the term "defence of the fatherland in the present war between slave-owners for fortifying and strengthening slavery.
Vladimir Ilyich Ulianov (Lenin), "Socialism and War".
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u/Civil-Zone-2773 2d ago
Yea honestly thats what I think also. People act like Joseph Stalin was a purely good person, but even he pulled some incompetent shit (Lysenkoism for example). And when you try to point it out, they think that you hate the entire USSR project and arent a true communist. I personally think that the Soviet Union had its flaws, especially its leaders post-lenin, but it had an overall better system compared to its capitalist counterparts and provided its citizens with a much better standard of living.
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