Injecting dmt

[u/Ornery_Staff217]

I want to inject my dmt through iv dose anyone know or can point me in the right direction to do this safely

[u/Peruvian_Skies]

The first thing you need i order to do this is certainty that your DMT is free from absolutely any and all impurities. If you can't be 100% certain of this, give up now or you may face severe consequences up to and including death. If you bought it from a dealer, assume it's contaminated. If you extracted it yourself, how much do you trust your chemistry skills and lab hygiene?

This is a bad idea.

[u/Tripp_ORG → u/Peruvian_Skies]

Not true. Death is a very unlikely occurrence from any of the known DMT impurities.

Look at how many people are injecting brown and black tar heroin, and do not die from the impurities. They die from the OD and respiratory depression most commonly. Infections are secondary, and usually only because they go untreated and because they have already weakened their body from years of substance abuse.

That said, injecting impure DMT can lead to discomfort that is best avoided, but is unlikely to cause any long term damage.

Regardless, lab tests should be done beforehand. My point is simply that some trace impurities are fine and expected. Something like residual tryptamine from a DMT synthesis is certainly fine. Even tiny traces of NaOH would be unlikely to cause problems. But also very unlikely to even be present after the fumarate salt is isolated.

[u/Ornery_Staff217 → u/Peruvian_Skies]

My dmt is 100% pure

[u/Left_Section1578 → u/Ornery_Staff217]

How are you confirming that? The only safely injectable DMT must be synthetic, not extracted. Also 100% isn't going to happen. Please, reconsider the avenue you want to take DMT.

[u/Tripp_ORG → u/Left_Section1578]

People put too much trust in “dealers”

[u/Tripp_ORG → u/Ornery_Staff217]

It is not. 100% pure doesn’t exist.

Where are you getting this number? From which testing service?

[u/MagicCheeseMann → u/Ornery_Staff217]

That’s good for boofin there boi!

[u/planetcollector → u/MagicCheeseMann]

Boof boof boof

[u/-bynx-]

Have done it. Wouldn’t recommend it honestly. It’s a substantial hassle to prep, and hits pretty abruptly, but with minimal visuals. Too fast acting to be useful, without any of the impressive fireworks.

DMTx uses anesthesia machines to ramp up IV administration slowly, which you can’t really do tripping balls with a syringe hanging out of your arm.

It sounds cool, but vaping or pharmahuasca are by far safer and more rewarding options.

[u/Tripp_ORG → u/-bynx-]

True on all counts except the visions can be far from minimal (if dose and purity are high enough)

[u/-bynx- → u/Tripp_ORG]

In my experience, vaping has been by far the most visual ROA. IV was on par with oral for visual intensity - pharmahuasca can be quite visual at high doses too, but the threshold is higher and the quality is more muted

[u/Tripp_ORG → u/-bynx-]

Yeah I get that. But a large enough IV dose is going to equal intensity of visions like what vapor produces.

I don’t think any pharmayahuasca dose will do this though due to the body purging the larger doses out. And I can’t imagine the body load that would occur over six hours or more after taking a dose large enough for the peak of the effects to equal DMT vapor or IV.

[u/-bynx- → u/Tripp_ORG]

For pharmahuasca, with proper harmala dosing, there shouldn’t be much body load. Once MAO is suppressed, take as much DMT as desired. I just don’t see the benefit of IV without a pump to pace the injection.

[u/Tripp_ORG → u/-bynx-]

I mean, enough DMT orally to reach vapor intensity at the peak is going to be one massive body load. Same with mushrooms or LSD.

I agree that there’s little benefit to IV bolus. I’d rather subQ it if it’s a bolus.

A pump is the obvious winner.

My point was that a large enough bolus of high enough purity can easily equal the visual intensity of vapor.

[u/Ornery_Staff217 → u/-bynx-]

Dm me

[u/Maximum_Maize1052]

If I recall you need a specific salt (hemifumarate/fumarate, to inject it, not the usual freebase stuff.

[u/Tripp_ORG → u/Maximum_Maize1052]

Yes. And higher purity than what most people extract. Plus sterile techniques that I don’t have time to get into today.

[u/Tripp_ORG]

It sounds like you want to do this completely alone and possibly with your own DMT**.** This is something that almost nobody will advise. Including myself. But if you do push through, please consider having the purity tested by Nectar Spectra Labs first: https://www.nectarspectralabs.com/en

But, the best way to do this safely would be through the legal routes:

DreamMind labs in Colorado (dreammindlabs.com) or Eleusis on a Caribbean Island (eleusismind.com).

Edit: I just found out that Eleusis is going to be on video call tonight at 8pm EST https://volume.com/t/JatyRs/

ORG is also working towards providing the training and tools needed for safe subcutaneous injection of DMT, in one’s own home, but through a guided Zoom call and during a spiritual ceremony, but this is years away and will require medical professionals to sign off on it, as well as navigating the other complexities of doing this completely legally (and will be limited to USA only).

[u/Federal-Exercise1059]

why?

[u/Ric17-71]

Don’t

[u/phan2001]

Most people use synthetic not extracted DMT for IV.

[u/Tripp_ORG → u/phan2001]

True, but irrelevant. There’s no reason why extracted DMT can’t be purified to be IV safe. Contrarily, there’s also plenty of reasons where a synthetically made DMT would be unsafe for injection.

[u/phan2001 → u/Tripp_ORG]

I’m not saying synthetic is automatically safe.

With kitchen chemistry I really cannot believe you feel confident injecting extracted plant materials directly into a vein. Like you trust the solvent to be THAT clean? If so, I guess we just have different risk tolerance and you do you/send it. 🤙

[u/Tripp_ORG → u/phan2001]

NO.

I trust any high grade HPLC-MS/MS and NMR analysis. Regardless of how the molecule got from point A to point B, if point B tests pure enough for safe injection, then it’s clearly safe to inject.

Solvent purity is a factor, but I distill all solvent before use, regardless of how pure it is labelled to be and I have never had a solvent impurity lower the purity of DMT beyond what is FDA acceptable.

[u/phan2001 → u/Tripp_ORG]

And you think OP has access to any kind of analytics like that? Outside of Colorado in the USA testing isn’t exactly legal. AT BEST +99% of people who score a bag of DMT, MIGHT get a bag that’s been washed once, but even that is unlikely.

It sounds like you are in a unique position.

[u/Tripp_ORG → u/phan2001]

I’ve sent OP the link (https://www.nectarspectralabs.com/en) to Nectar Spectra Labs where OP can easily (and safely) send 20mg to Spain, along with 95€ (digitally) to get a purity test much more definitive than what the best labs in CO can do.

[u/Ornery_Staff217 → u/phan2001]

How should I do it then

[u/phan2001 → u/Ornery_Staff217]

Source synthetic DMT and IV that.

I would not IV anything extracted in my kitchen from plant material.

[u/Tripp_ORG → u/phan2001]

NO. I would not trust any synthetic DMT being sold on the street to be injection safe.

But to be clear, as said before, I would be fine injecting kitchen made DMT, IF it tested pure enough on a lab test. And I have seen mason jar DMT test pure enough for safe IV injection, but it had gone through many recrystallizations.

[u/tpd82]

Other than an IV drip to sustain levels, which is an exact science and I don't think you're going to do that, I don't see the point over just inhaling it. Inhaling is plenty fast without all the risks of injection .

[u/pakograpixo]

Acho q esta levando a morte do ego muito literalmente

[u/EvanderCourage]

you need to heat the dmt to activate it brother. even ayahuasca is made with heat.

[u/Tripp_ORG → u/EvanderCourage]

What?

[u/No_Membership_8247 → u/EvanderCourage]

Lol

[u/Tripp_ORG → u/EvanderCourage]

This is so wrong, I think you’re confusing DMT with THC (that must be decarboxylated)