When using the Warptide detachment, does the ability to advance and charge still apply when you have a character attached to the battleline unit?

Hey everyone,

I was recently thinking about expanding my CSM Army with Daemons via the Shadow Legion detachment.

So far, from the posts I've seen, the CSM parts could be :

\- 2 x 10 cultists

\- 2 x 5 havocs

\- 1 x 10 chosen

Considering the daemons part of the list, i've seen that Belakor and a Bloodthirster with the fade into darkness seems like the core of the list but after that, I'm lost and don't know how to expand.

Do I use the nurglings and beast of nurgle I already have ?

What detachment to pick from the 1DP selection ?

I was thinking of using the lords of the warp detachment since I like the sculpt of some models (slopity bilepiper, the infernal enrapturess, the contorted epitome)

What are your advices on building a shadow legion list ?

We have finally been blessed by the Chaos Gods inside of GW! We're no longer required to Disrupt our enemies, but instead Take and Hold!

What's everyone's thoughts on this? Step forward into playing Daemonic Incursion again? Or do we think other detachments like Legion of Excess, Blood Legion and Shadow Legion are still going to be the go too's?

Is it at all viable to run a list with 36 (max allowable in a 2k list) or 24 (max allowable in 1k) nurgling swarms?

Hello all, I wanted to ask for tips for a Chaos Demons army since I am new to the tabletop side of the hobby.
Up untill now I was mostly interested in the painting and displaying aspect of the hobby, focusing on big centerpiece units. I have painted many units including Be'Lakor, a Great Unclean one and others from other factions such as demon primarchs and C'tan shards.
However as of late and after hanging out with people who play the game I am interested in starting also, and was thinking of making an army of deamons since I mostly love painting them (and the fantasy) and since I was planing to paint both the keeper of secrets and lord of change I was wandering if i can make an army consiting of Be'Lakor and all 4 greater demons. Is something like this even possible and if so do you have any tips?

See title lol

Hey guys, I'm kind of new to the tabletop side of 40k. I started looking into it around 9th and have been really trying to get into it. I'm mainly a Tyranid fan, but I wanted to try running a solo practice game with Slaanesh daemons on TTS. I realized I didn't really know how objective secured works and from what I've gathered online you need an actual ability to secure objectives? I heard battleline units usually have them, but I don't see any on the Daemonettes. Does Slaanesh just not have any objective secured abilities?

Hello fellow Daemons!

Trying to get a rule clarification and can't find it anywhere!
A Keeper of Secrets has its ability to have -1 to hit.
Benefits of Cover gives your opponent -1 Ballistic Skill.

I've been told that these no longer stack to make -2 to hit. Is this correct or can you still have -2 to hit with both of these?

A screenshot would be awesome please! Or telling me how to find the rule!
Thanks!

I couldn’t scrounge up another Keeper and don’t have time to make my Lancer. Gunna send it whole hog.

Into DA Take and Hold Lion and Friends.

My mind is DS Shalaxi, Skatbrand, 1 SG, 1 Fiend. Get everything up the board and let them setup their Take and Hold. Turn 2 is bring everything in 6” or closer, Skarbrand burns a CP to join and just overload a flank and make stuff them back into one table corner. 2SGs screen backfield while Fiends keep Booby Trapping.

A Buddy Cop Rom-Com (1,980 Points)

Chaos Daemons
Daemonic Incursion (3 Detachment Points)
Disruption
Strike Force (2,000 Points)

CHARACTERS

Keeper of Secrets (270 Points)
• 1x Phantasmagoria
• 1x Ritual knife
• 1x Snapping claws
• 1x Witstealer sword
• Enhancements: Soulstealer

Keeper of Secrets (255 Points)
• 1x Phantasmagoria
• 1x Ritual knife
• 1x Snapping claws
• 1x Witstealer sword

Shalaxi Helbane (315 Points)
• Warlord
• 1x Lash of Slaanesh
• 1x Pavane of Slaanesh
• 1x Snapping claws
• 1x Soulpiercer

Skarbrand (315 Points)
• 1x Bellow of endless fury
• 1x Slaughter and Carnage

OTHER DATASHEETS

Fiends (90 Points)
• 1x Blissbringer
◦ 1x Barbed tail and dissecting claws
• 2x Fiend
◦ 2x Barbed tail and dissecting claws

Fiends (90 Points)
• 1x Blissbringer
◦ 1x Barbed tail and dissecting claws
• 2x Fiend
◦ 2x Barbed tail and dissecting claws

Fiends (90 Points)
• 1x Blissbringer
◦ 1x Barbed tail and dissecting claws
• 2x Fiend
◦ 2x Barbed tail and dissecting claws

Soul Grinder (180 Points)
• Daemonic Allegiance: Slaanesh
• 1x Harvester cannon
• 1x Iron claw
• 1x Scream of despair
• 1x Warpsword

Soul Grinder (180 Points)
• Daemonic Allegiance: Slaanesh
• 1x Harvester cannon
• 1x Iron claw
• 1x Scream of despair
• 1x Warpsword

Soul Grinder (195 Points)
• Daemonic Allegiance: Slaanesh
• 1x Harvester cannon
• 1x Iron claw
• 1x Scream of despair
• 1x Warpsword

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What do you guys think?

Always wanted to start a chaos daemons army (started in 8e) but have never felt secure in the future of daemons, but I have always seen advice of starting one god at a time and was considering starting with Slaneesh (combination of having a small EC force I'd be able to put them with in carnival and being addicted to movement shenanigans)

That said it's very hard to gather information on chaos daemons from my experience and from what I hear Slaneesh and shelaxi especially are really bad (which was my original plan on getting them +the new aos slaneesh spearhead)

Has that changed in 11e? Or am I best off looking elsewhere for chaos daemons?

Hi !

I was wondering if this was any good :

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+ FACTION KEYWORD: Chaos - Chaos Daemons

+ DETACHMENT: Legion of Excess, Warptide (Beguiling Aura)

+ FORCE DISPOSITION: Priority Assets

+ TOTAL ARMY POINTS: 1995pts

+

+ ENHANCEMENT: False Majesty (Aura) (on Char7: Tormentbringer)

& Bane-forged weapons (on Batt9: Daemonettes)

& Bane-forged weapons (on Batt9: Daemonettes)

& Bane-forged weapons (on Batt9: Daemonettes)

+ NUMBER OF UNITS: 15

+ SECONDARY: - Bring It Down: (1x2) + (2x4) + (1x6) - Assassination: 9 Characters

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Char4: 1x Infernal Enrapturess (60 pts): Heartstring lyre, Ravaging claws

Char5: 1x Keeper of Secrets (255 pts): Phantasmagoria, Snapping claws, Witstealer sword, Ritual knife

Char6: 1x Keeper of Secrets (255 pts): Phantasmagoria, Snapping claws, Witstealer sword, Ritual knife

Char1: 1x Shalaxi Helbane (315 pts): Lash of Slaanesh, Pavane of Slaanesh, Snapping claws, Soulpiercer

Char2: 1x Syll'esske (120 pts): Axe of Dominion, Cacophonic choir, Scourging whip

Char3: 1x The Masque of Slaanesh (95 pts): Serrated claws

Char7: 1x Tormentbringer (165 pts): Lashes of torment, Seeker tongues, Slashing claws

Enhancement: False Majesty (Aura) (+30 pts)

Char8: 1x Tranceweaver (60 pts): Ravaging claws

Char9: 1x Tranceweaver (60 pts): Ravaging claws

10x Daemonettes (105 pts)

• 9x Daemonette

7 with Slashing claws

1 with Instrument of Chaos, Slashing claws

1 with Daemonic Icon, Slashing claws

Enhancement: Bane-forged weapons (+15 pts)

• 1x Alluress: Slashing claws

10x Daemonettes (90 pts)

• 9x Daemonette

7 with Slashing claws

1 with Instrument of Chaos, Slashing claws

1 with Daemonic Icon, Slashing claws

• 1x Alluress: Slashing claws

10x Daemonettes (105 pts)

• 9x Daemonette

7 with Slashing claws

1 with Instrument of Chaos, Slashing claws

1 with Daemonic Icon, Slashing claws

Enhancement: Bane-forged weapons (+15 pts)

• 1x Alluress: Slashing claws

10x Daemonettes (105 pts)

• 9x Daemonette

7 with Slashing claws

1 with Instrument of Chaos, Slashing claws

1 with Daemonic Icon, Slashing claws

Enhancement: Bane-forged weapons (+15 pts)

• 1x Alluress: Slashing claws

3x Nurglings (45 pts): 3 with Diseased claws and teeth

2x Hellflayers (160 pts): 2 with Lashes of torment, Seeker tongues, Slashing claws

I’ve just started looking into chaos daemons and I’m interested in running a shadow legion army. I just scrunched up a list what do you guys think about it?

The (1,985 Points)

Chaos Daemons
Shadow Legion and Warptide (3 Detachment Points)
Purge the Foe
Strike Force (2,000 Points)

ATTACHED UNITS

Attached unit 1

Skullmaster (85 Points)
• Attached as: Leader (Character)
• 1x Blade of blood
• 1x Juggernaut’s bladed horn

Bloodcrushers (190 Points)
• Attached as: Bodyguard ()
• 1x Bloodhunter
◦ 1x Hellblade
◦ 1x Juggernaut’s bladed horn
• 5x Bloodcrusher
◦ 1x Daemonic Icon
◦ 5x Hellblade
◦ 1x Instrument of Chaos
◦ 5x Juggernaut’s bladed horn

Attached unit 2

Bloodmaster (65 Points)
• Attached as: Leader (Character)
• 1x Blade of blood

Bloodletters (110 Points)
• Attached as: Bodyguard (Battleline)
• 1x Bloodreaper
◦ 1x Hellblade
• 9x Bloodletter
◦ 9x Hellblade

Attached unit 3

Bloodmaster (95 Points)
• Attached as: Leader (Character)
• 1x Blade of blood
• Enhancements: Fade to Darkness

Bloodletters (110 Points)
• Attached as: Bodyguard (Battleline)
• 1x Bloodreaper
◦ 1x Hellblade
• 9x Bloodletter
◦ 9x Hellblade

Attached unit 4

Chaos Lord in Terminator Armour (85 Points)
• Attached as: Leader (Character)
• 1x Combi-bolter
• 1x Exalted weapon

Chaos Terminator Squad (175 Points)
• Attached as: Bodyguard ()
• 1x Terminator Champion
◦ 1x Accursed weapon
◦ 1x Combi-bolter
• 4x Chaos Terminator
◦ 1x Chainfist
◦ 3x Combi-bolter
◦ 3x Power fist
◦ 1x Reaper autocannon

CHARACTERS

Be’lakor (390 Points)
• Warlord
• 1x Betraying Shades
• 1x The Blade of Shadows

OTHER DATASHEETS

Flesh Hounds (75 Points)
• 1x Gore Hound
◦ 1x Burning roar
◦ 1x Collar of Khorne
◦ 1x Gore-drenched fangs
• 4x Flesh Hound
◦ 4x Collar of Khorne
◦ 4x Gore-drenched fangs

Flesh Hounds (75 Points)
• 1x Gore Hound
◦ 1x Burning roar
◦ 1x Collar of Khorne
◦ 1x Gore-drenched fangs
• 4x Flesh Hound
◦ 4x Collar of Khorne
◦ 4x Gore-drenched fangs

ALLIED UNITS

Cultist Mob (50 Points)
• 1x Cultist Champion
◦ 1x Autopistol
◦ 1x Brutal assault weapon
• 9x Chaos Cultist
◦ 9x Autopistol
◦ 9x Brutal assault weapon

Cultist Mob (50 Points)
• 1x Cultist Champion
◦ 1x Autopistol
◦ 1x Brutal assault weapon
• 9x Chaos Cultist
◦ 9x Autopistol
◦ 9x Brutal assault weapon

Havocs (125 Points)
• 1x Havoc Champion
◦ 1x Plasma gun
◦ 1x Power fist
• 4x Havoc
◦ 4x Close combat weapon
◦ 2x Havoc autocannon
◦ 2x Havoc lascannon

Havocs (125 Points)
• 1x Havoc Champion
◦ 1x Plasma gun
◦ 1x Power fist
• 4x Havoc
◦ 4x Close combat weapon
◦ 2x Havoc autocannon
◦ 2x Havoc lascannon

Legionaries (90 Points)
• 1x Aspiring Champion
◦ 1x Bolt pistol
◦ 1x Boltgun
◦ 1x Close combat weapon
• 4x Legionary
◦ 4x Bolt pistol
◦ 3x Boltgun
◦ 1x Chaos Icon
◦ 4x Close combat weapon
◦ 1x Havoc autocannon

Legionaries (90 Points)
• 1x Aspiring Champion
◦ 1x Bolt pistol
◦ 1x Boltgun
◦ 1x Close combat weapon
• 4x Legionary
◦ 4x Bolt pistol
◦ 3x Boltgun
◦ 1x Chaos Icon
◦ 4x Close combat weapon
◦ 1x Havoc autocannon

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So I have over 2,000 points of both armies but previous editions and pairings left me unimpressed. I think 11th edition has some promise, I'm just unsure how to build it up so it can win some games. A few suggestions would be appreciated.

Never posted this guy solo.

Noob question but what is the anti tank in the army ? As I'm unable to find much of anything .

Mainly going for a hybrid of nurgle and slannesh in my cosmic herpes list .

Hello,

I haven't played much of 11th edition yet, and I want to know how my 10th edition army carries over to 11th. I wanted to build an army that has units from all the gods as Id get bored of painting the same colour scheme for 2000 points, so last edition I chose daemonic incursion. In 11th it has the disruption disposition, which from a very surface level research is more about board control and less killing stuff. I don't know how it plays against other dispositions, and If anyone here can advise me on whether my list fits with the disposition that would be appreciated

Chaos - Chaos Daemons - Daemonic Incursion - Disruption

Skarbrand (315pts): Warlord

Great Unclean One (265pts)

Keeper of Secrets (255pts)

Lord of Change (300pts)

10x Bloodletters (110pts)

10x Daemonettes (90pts)

3x Nurglings (45pts)

3x Nurglings (45pts)

10x Plaguebearers (115pts)

10x Plaguebearers (115pts)

3x Flamers (65pts)

3x Flamers (65pts)

3x Flamers (65pts)

5x Flesh Hounds (75pts)

5x Flesh Hounds (75pts)

The change to 11th as been a lot for us so I made this video with Justin talking about how Daemons won the American Team Championship with us! Hopefully its

helpful.https://youtu.be/Cd12_ZERJRQ