r/FAMnNFP Sensiplan instructor | CFH 24d ago

August Beginner's thread

This is a semi-regular thread for beginners, for repeatedly asked questions like help choosing a method, incomplete newbie charts for learning, experiences with apps/devices, coming off of HBC, etc. We will direct questions here if we feel necessary. Some questions from beginners may be appropriate for individual posts, such as questions that encourage broader community discussion and may be applicable to experienced charters as well as beginners. The mod team will evaluate and redirect posts/comments as needed.

We ask that any comments with charts or method-specific questions state a method and intention in order to direct help as needed. It is difficult for ANYONE to give advice or support if a chart is missing too much information, and if we don't know the rules you are using. Beginner charts posted here will be evaluated with that in mind - so a chart that is incomplete or missing biomarkers will not immediately be removed (as is done for individual posts), but will be discussed in the comments to get a better understanding of how to assist the new-to-FAM/NFP charter.

Welcome to r/FAMnNFP

FAM (Fertility Awareness Method - Secular) and NFP (Natural Family Planning - Religious Roots) both encompass Fertility Awareness Based Methods of Body Literacy. They can be used to avoid pregnancy, conceive, or assess general health.

This subreddit is a space to discuss these methods, share charts, and support others on their body literacy journeys. This group is not intended to replace learning a method for yourself or medical advice.

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FAQs

What is a method? Why do methods matter?

A FAM/NFP method is a set of rules established to interpret biomarker data (such as cervical mucus/fluid, basal body temperature, or urinary hormones) to identify the days when it may be possible to conceive a pregnancy (known as the Fertile Window). Each method has a unique set of biomarkers and rules to interpret those biomarkers that have been developed and/or studied to effectively identify the fertile window. Methods matter because when you collect biomarker data, you need a set of rules to interpret that data. A method provides a way to interpret your specific biomarker data in real time, to help conceive a pregnancy, prevent a pregnancy, or track health.

On this subreddit, our goal is to share factual information. As you may have already found, there is so much misinformation out there and we're trying to be a beacon of truth in a sea of confusion. You are free to use whatever practices in your own life, but they may not have a space here if you are not following or you do not intend to learn to follow an established method. If you need further clarification, please reach out to us in mod mail.

Why can't I post my chart if I don't have a method?

In order for members to help you interpret your chart, you need to be applying a method. Interpreting your data without a framework to interpret can be challenging if not impossible. Each method has its own cervical mucus classification, rules for taking BBT and evaluating it, etc. If you are TTC and don't intend on learning a method, head on over to r/TFABChartStalkers.

Why is an instructor recommended?

The reason why we recommend learning your method from an instructor is because it allows you to have personalized support and to achieve perfect use of most methods, having an instructor is part of that efficacy statistic. We understand that cost may be prohibitive for some and we support members who feel comfortable self-teaching. This space is not meant to replace official instruction but provide reasonable support. Instructors are there when you don't fit the textbook, and you don't know where to go.

How do I find an instructor?

You can find method-specific instructors through our list of instructors active on our subreddit, through the Read Your Body directory, and our list of methods resource.

Feel free to search through the subreddit for past posts. We have been around for over 10 years, so it is very possible that your question has been answered already.

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u/Purple-Magpie21 TTC | Sensiplan 4d ago

Hello there! I have been collecting data on my cycles for months, tracking BBT, using LH strips and observing CM. As we're starting TTC this month, I want to take the next step and start tracking within a specific framework. I have been lurking on this sub for a while to understand what method would suit me better, and I have landed on Sensiplan. I am currently reading the Handbook and Workbook in parallel. I have literally just printed a few paper charts and I'm plotting down this month's data that I had been collecting on FF (my cycle started on 15/08).

Onto my first question then: the handbook and workbook mention a 3-minute hold when measuring BBT. This is something I haven't done before. I'm using a digital BBT thermometer that sometimes beeps in less than a minute, so how can I extend the hold to 3 minutes? I'm temping orally and I keep the thermometer under my pillow so I guess it's not entirely cold when I place it in my mouth.

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u/TrackYourFertility Sensiplan instructor | CFH 4d ago

So Sensiplan do teach that you should take the temperature for 3 minutes, primarily because that’s how it was studied, under those conditions.

From experience, the majority of users don’t temp for the full 3 minutes, and the data is perfectly usable but it depends on your comfort level and knowing you’re not strictly using that rule as advised.

If you wanted to use that, you can get thermometers where you can amend the measure time in the settings. I use the Femometer vinca when I oral temp and that has the option, though I do only do 30-60 seconds.

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u/Purple-Magpie21 TTC | Sensiplan 4d ago

Thanks for your super quick reply :)

I understand that not holding for 3-mins hasn't been studied so it's a matter of doing it "at your own risk", especially if TTA... but even without the 3-min hold, over the past 5 cycles I was always able to see a clear shift in temperature to pinpoint ovulation. I have the Femometer Vinca Lite and I'm not sure if I can extend the hold time? I'll check!

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u/TrackYourFertility Sensiplan instructor | CFH 4d ago

Yeah exactly that, personally I’ve never done a 3 minute temp and my charts are great, I don’t have any concerns with temping like that.
I do recommend it for anyone who isn’t and has rocky temps to see if that helps though and when teaching I always teach that rule with the caveat if you choose not to temp for that long your technically not following it as studied.

For your thermometer, is it Bluetooth? Do you have the app on your phone? If so, take a look in the settings and then click on your device and you should see an option for measuring mode ☺️

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u/Purple-Magpie21 TTC | Sensiplan 4d ago

No it's not Bluetooth unfortunately! :( I'll see if I can get the Vinca II!

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u/PampleR0se Pregnant | Sensiplan 4d ago

Hi Magpie !! Thrilled to see you here and best of luck for your TTC journey. I've loved using Sensiplan to TTA and then TTC and hope you enjoy it as well. I still use my Easy@Home thermometer and just circumvent the 3min hold by letting the probe prewarm in my mouth for around 2min before I press record and I found that I got way more stable temperatures that way even if I still technically got reliables temps without this prewarming step before. So as the other commenter said, it's not necessarily critical but could help if you have a jumpy temperature chart. I just do it for the beauty of the data 🙃

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u/Purple-Magpie21 TTC | Sensiplan 2d ago

Hi Rose!!! 🌹 I'm so happy to see you here and congratulations on your pregnancy ❤️ The 2- Min hold before turning on the thermometer sounds like a great workaround! I'll give it a try and see how I get on. Thanks for the tip!

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u/Classic-Push1323 TTC | Sensiplan 4d ago

I wouldn’t worry about it at all. Since you’re trying to conceive it doesn’t really matter if extend the fertile window slightly waiting for a clear temperature rise.  The most important thing for TTC is to have sex as often as you can from the start of  fertile CM through the temperature rise. You may not be able to identify when the CM dries up easily so BBT can be really helpful. 

Sensiplan relies on decades of research and the technology in BBT thermometers has improved so I would not be too worried about the three minute temp rule. It’s a good thing to try if you want to eliminate as much risk as possible, you have jumpy temperatures, or you have a very small temp rise, but it doesn’t sound like you’re dealing with any of those issues. 

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u/Purple-Magpie21 TTC | Sensiplan 2d ago

Thanks for your reply! I agree, sounds like the 3-min rule would be more important to follow down to a t if we were TTA. In this case I'm just using BBT to confirm ovulation and deciding when to test. Now I'm trying to familiarise with my CM and in particular with the sensation part of tracking it, so I'm sure I'll come back with more questions 🙂

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u/bibbasaur 18d ago

Using sensiplan- if I have a disturbed temp, do I count that as part of the past 6 temps (to make the cover line) or do I skip over that and use an extra day before? Or do I just disregard it and still stick to the other 5 days to make a cover line?

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u/TrackYourFertility Sensiplan instructor | CFH 18d ago

Ignore the disturbed temp and count back 6 as usual ☺️

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u/bibbasaur 18d ago

Thank you!