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u/bourbonandcheese 4h ago
She deserved that for trying to "gotcha" the teacher. 14/10 is a perfectly reasonable grade if the assignment is out of 10 points and has 4 bonus points possible. Like what was her goal here?
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u/Constant-Roll706 4h ago
I was going to send it to the Art Prodigy Center, but now it's going in the trash
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u/Antonaqua 3h ago
What kind of system needs 4 bonus points on a test with 10 points?
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u/bourbonandcheese 3h ago
It's not an assessment. It's a class assignment. It would be very typical for early elementary educators to give extra points on little assignments so that when a 4-year-old gets a 2/10 on the required phonics assessment they don't get an F in 1st grade.
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u/Antonaqua 2h ago
Why would people care about grades of 4 year olds? If they are slow to learn hold them back a year, if they have a learning disability, get them assistance.
Caring about what grades everyone has has no advantage. It's better to fail them so they can spend more time learning properly.
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u/bourbonandcheese 2h ago
That’s exactly right. The teacher doesn’t care about the grade at all because she sees the whole student perform both formative and summative assessments, but the administration does and the parents often do.
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u/Antonaqua 2h ago
Why the fk do the administration and parents care baout the grades of toddlers? That's so fking counterproductive.
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u/bourbonandcheese 2h ago
New to education? Ive taught on three continents. Grades matter to people everywhere though in varying amounts.
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u/Antonaqua 2h ago
Not of toddlers and if the bonus point system is used in middle and high school that's just dupb and just inflating points for no reason. Caring about the actual number over your child learning is asinine.
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u/SuspiciousNewAccount 2h ago
Way too many parents trying to one-up their kids' teachers. Genuinely not doing their kids any favors.
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u/PotaytoPotayto 2h ago
Maybe in your country, where i live a 10 is a perfect grade. There's no 11+ in our educational system.
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u/bourbonandcheese 2h ago
Even in that scenario you would think it appropriate to email the teacher and tell her she’s wrong about how to grade, though? Like that’s just a bad strategy for collaborative relationship building, right?
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u/ElodinTargaryen 4h ago
Now I understand the r/shitamericanssay
It took me an ungodly amount of time to figure out wtf the 14th month was in 14/10 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
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u/Outrageous_Try_3854 3h ago
People talk about American defaultism but Europeans do the same thing and you just proved it. It makes sense for us to write dates like we do because in English we say the date is September 1st 2026. We don't say it's the 1st of September. Thus, month, day, year
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u/sparrows-somewhere 2h ago
I always see this excuse as if the rest of the world doesn't use "September the first" or "First of September" interchangeablely. That has no effect on the most logical way to write it down.
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u/serabine 2h ago
My dude.
Over 150 countries (including the English-speaking ones) use dd/mm/yyyy. So it's kinda hilarious that you just assume this person is European (which is comprised of a lot of countries, but not that many) and somehow in the wrong by being confused by a format that (with the exception of a handful of countries that accept it as an additional way to write a date) is used as the only standard in only one country.
(And also, after a short, nosy snoop, I'm pretty sure this person is American, too)
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u/spankpaddle 3h ago
everyone else: Makes sense and if everyone else is on board, makes more sense.
Americans: We talk like this!1
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u/TheZoonder 4h ago
I have never understood, why is the 9th of November so special for Americans.
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u/Sensitive_Bat_9211 5h ago
Finally, all the proof i need that the american date system is superior. I will now make this my personality
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u/Vegetable_Plane_542 3h ago
And yet you took the chance to criticize Americans for joke and a post that had nothing to do with Americans. Now that’s personality!
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u/Sensitive_Bat_9211 3h ago
Im not criticizing americans, im criticizing people who are obsessed with the superiority of calender formats when they all still use the inferior georgian calendar (the mayan calendar is superior).
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u/homelessguydiet 5h ago
Red hat alert ⚠️
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u/Hugsomebunnies 4h ago
Wrong date format, and Americans say mom rather than mum, so probably not.
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u/homelessguydiet 4h ago
Yeah I missed the date format which just makes me a dumb American I guess...sorry
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u/HeavyMusic93 5h ago
…what?
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u/WorkingAmazing8337 5h ago
He's saying they're dumb so they're MAGA.
I dont even know if they're American, but having MAGA synonymous with "stupid" isnt the worst thing in the world.
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u/CompetitiveYoghurt30 4h ago
Wrong date format for them to be American. And I know both sides of the fence who have iqs of -1. It’s not a political thing.
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u/Ambitious_Ad_2369 5h ago
We do months first in the states. Kinda shows you we have friends over seas trying to start conflicts on Reddit...
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u/cab082001 2h ago
The real question is, why are you objecting to the 4 bonus points even if they were an accident???
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u/grandalfxx 2h ago
The worst part is she didnt learn that 14/10 is fine if there is +4 extra credit.
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u/Sad-Cantaloupe-5494 3h ago
Well they're doing the dates wrong so no need to feel bad
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u/Capable_Sea77 3h ago
Be careful, you'll make a European mad that different countries do things differently and theyll try to make a trite joke about school shootings.
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u/Sad-Cantaloupe-5494 3h ago
That's precisely what I expect. I enjoy bothering them about their measuring systems and such
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u/improbably_driven 5h ago
So, by this logic, your preference is yyyy-mm-dd? I'm very much okay with that. Even as a European who normally writes dates dd-mm-yyyy. It's the mm-dd-yyyy that I have trouble wrapping my head around. It just doesn't make sense to me. So to work around all of this I actually prefer to write the month in full or an abbreviated version of it in letters instead of numbers.
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u/Knight0fdragon 5h ago
As a computer scientist, I love yyyy-mm-dd.
Store it as an integer, makes math a lot easier.
20260901 > 20250801
20250801 < 20250901
Having the days be the smallest value and years largest just makes sense
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u/itsjakerobb 4h ago
What exactly are you storing as an integer? 20260901 (for example)?
I’m a software engineer. We most often store timestamps as integers, representing seconds or milliseconds from the epoch (1970-01-01T00:00:00Z). Windows does something else IIRC; I don’t use or work on it so I don’t remember the details. I think it’s a floating-point number of days, possibly also counting from the epoch?
Regardless: none of the above options make date math easy. Every platform has a complex, robust library that handles this stuff. And none of it uses an internal date representation of yyyy-mm-dd.
So, I guess I’m asking: what?
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u/Knight0fdragon 4h ago
You clearly only deal with high level languages when you need to rely on complex, robust libraries to perform simple operations like comparing if a date is greater than or less than another date.
When you need to write software for space or performance, you learn to developing shortcuts.
Storing a date in ticks is not always going to be your best option, especially since different systems use different methods to store their date time object.
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u/itsjakerobb 4h ago
Oh, so you just mean comparison math? I thought you meant arithmetic (adding/subtracting) — which is extremely fraught, and moreso with your representation.
Yes, I work almost exclusively in high-level languages these days. I’m curious what sort of work you’re doing in low-level languages in 2026 that involves date comparison and is so performance- or space-sensitive that using ticks is insufficient?
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u/Knight0fdragon 3h ago
Any embedded device you can think of.
Try extracting a day number as fast as possible.
IntDate & 255 extracts the day in as little as 1 cycle in some systems.
(IntDate >> 8) & 255 extracts the month in as little as 2 cycles
IntDate >> 16 extracts the year in as little as 1 cycle
Counting from 1970 is a complicated process
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u/Anybody220 4h ago
yyyy-mm-dd is ideal and the best. From a cataloging perspective and overall organization. Though depending on what you were cataloging like if you had a series of reports with a specific due dates each month (report 1: due the 15th, report 2: due the 28th, report 3: due the 1st) I can see dd-mm be useful. But otherwise I prefer chronological order of mm-dd.
Generally, I don’t understand the dd-mm, it makes no sense to me and I would be with the women in the picture confused and thinking it was grades. I work with many European coworkers who, when they first started, would constantly send or submit things in dd-mm format. I have to go through and change it all, because our audience is always US boards and had to be in mm-dd.
It is a cultural thing. If I spent a year working in Europe I would adapt to it, just like if you were to spend a year in the US.
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u/callofdeat6 4h ago
Most people that support mm/dd/yyyy do so out of habit, I do it out of logic.
If I tell you we have our quarterly meeting on the 2nd, your first question is going to be what month? Unless we’ve always established a timeline so you know it’s October, giving future days of the month is worthless without knowing the month. On the other hand, giving you the month at LEAST narrows the timeline down to 30 days, now I just want to know which day that month we’re talking. Yes, going from bigger to smaller is more logical.
Now, you probably assumed I’m talking 2026, so this is why the year comes last, you don’t really have to guess the year, you can assume and pretty much always be right. If I AM talking about some year in the future, even in Europe that info is usually led with:
“hey, we’re all going to the alps in 2027, right now looking at October 3rd.”
And if you go backwards, the 3rd of October 2027, your first thought is “you mean in 2 days??? Oh October. Oh 2027. Wait which day?”
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u/Djfsihbone 5h ago
10/7 and 10/14 would have the exact same results of 1 not working as a fraction?
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u/Jealous_Corgi_2168 5h ago
It seems like only euros are confused by this. Months have these things called "names". We wouldn't say either of those for June seventh. We'd say June seventh. You can still say it in one breath and write it in a couple of pen strokes. It seems your insistence on being lazy is causing to to expend quite a bit more energy than just doing things the normal way.
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u/Shifty-Imp 5h ago
Nah, it's the rest of the world not "just Euros".
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u/fenuxjde 4h ago
It actually isn't. Most of asia and about half of Europe doesn't do that. I've lived in asia and eastern Europe and it wasn't particularly common.
The day/month thing is primarily western europe, Africa, and south america.
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u/Jealous_Corgi_2168 5h ago
Nobody on earth knows months have names except the dumb Americans? That's wild
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u/Shifty-Imp 5h ago
That's not "the confusion". The confusion is US-Americans using the date in a nonsense order and everybody else making sense.
I'm all for going YMD but MDY and then most of the time leaving Y out is just insane.
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u/Jealous_Corgi_2168 4h ago
I just told you how it's done in the US. We use the name of the month because it has a name. There's no logic in assigning a number to it. If you guys decide you want to do that, great, but don't make yourself confused and then act like it's somebody else's fault.
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u/Shifty-Imp 4h ago
Then write the damn name of the month, not the number. I don't see someone's passport when they're writing "01/10" and US-Americans aren't the only ones communicating in English.
We're talking about how it is written, not how it is said.
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u/Jealous_Corgi_2168 4h ago edited 4h ago
I'm talking about how it's written. You're getting emotional for some reason. My phone screen says "Sep 1". When I write I write "1 Sep 26". My calendar on the wall says "SEPTEMBER" in giant letters across the top of the page. Nobody here uses numbers when they write the month, because that's just illogical. What part of that are you so confused about? Stop lashing out. Just think for a moment.
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u/PRSHZ 5h ago
It’s more widespread than you’d believe, not only Europeans, but the vast majority of the world actually does DMY rather than MDY, the US is just obnoxiously loud about it.
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u/fenuxjde 5h ago
I've been lucky enough to live all over the world and believe it or not, lots of places outside the US don't use that. It is really only used in parts of Europe, South America, and Africa.
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u/burner94_ 5h ago
The main reason why (year)/month/day is this widespread is computers and databases.
If you write it this way, subsequent dates become alphabetically (well numerically) ordered, making working with dates a lot easier.
It has its uses, but I can see why it arises confusion when used elsewhere.
Signed, yet another European who would like the debate to stop existing lol
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u/Fesai 5h ago
I absolutely wish year/month/day was the standard on everything. I get the laziness of wanting to drop off the year part of it. But I feel it is better to just also always include it too.
Then everyone is the same, no confusion, and it is really easy to go back through old record documents to find things over time.
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u/burner94_ 4h ago
Not really what I meant tbh, but I guess?
I already get enough of a mindfuck every time I have to switch from my work computer (US keyboard) to my home one (Italian keyboard) and get used to the different diacritics and whatnot lmao
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u/Dense-Jicama6591 5h ago
No when its just 2 numbers ypure supposed to abrev the month ot should be nov. 7th
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u/Vainysaur 4h ago
There’s no 14th month though…
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u/GifanTheWoodElf Professional Dumbass 3h ago
Wow I was impressed when I almost got to the end of the comments and didn't ass any dum USians confusing dates... Almost.
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u/MageKorith 4h ago
I'd be confused too, because we're on a MM/DD convention.
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u/JOExHIGASHI 3h ago
Oop could be from a country that is dd/mm
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u/MageKorith 3h ago
OP almost certainly is.
I just wouldn't expect 14/10 to be a date where I am. I guess being Canadian gets me downvotes today lol.
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u/Devillicious1981 5h ago
Do we need to say “I’m embarrassed” then “for myself” in the one sentence?