r/Gnostic Nov 07 '21

r/Gnostic Rules, and Discord Link

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r/Gnostic Mar 17 '25

Question Helping us Map the landscape of Modern Gnosticism!

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Over at Talk Gnosis we've started a new project called Mapping Gnosticism. We're going to have conversations about some of the major concepts in Gnosticism, amongst it's many forms. Alongside the interviews that we already love to do!

We realized that if we wanted to cover the big topics for modern gnostics, it would be a good idea to find out how most people arrive under the big tent of Gnostic traditions and philosophies.

To that end, we built a poll to get a sense of where people are finding their information, and where they first encountered it.

We'll give the poll about a week for the community to find it and fill it out, and then we'll probably release some numbers as well as do a show discussing what we found!

Fill out the form! Every data point helps, and there are spots for you to list your favourite writers, channels, and podcasts! (Ahem, Talk Gnosis, Ahem!)

https://gnosticwisdom.net/mapping-gnosticism-where-did-you-begin/


r/Gnostic 2h ago

was gnostic, then Jesus came, shifting to orthodox beliefs but I feel like somethings off, help me understand.

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Is the God of Israel the demiurge, and is this demiurge evil, or has he evolved with humanity over millennia? I feel connected to the True Father (Great Invisible Spirit) and Barbelo and the Gnostic Christ, but I feel a pull into the demiurges sphere within Kabbalah. I can't seem to reconcile Jehovah-Yaldebeoth with my gnosis thus far. I sense the Valentinianism could help, but I want the raw truth to be revealed, if anyone has any pointers please let me know.


r/Gnostic 2h ago

was gnostic, then Jesus came, shifting to orthodox beliefs but I feel like somethings off, help me understand.

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r/Gnostic 10h ago

Question The Apocryphon of John says that Sophia fell from the Pleroma, but the Tripartate Tractate says that the Logos fell from the Pleroma with no mention of Sophia. What do you make of this?

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Question is in the title. It seems odd that two scriptures hidden away in the same jaw would appear to so directly contradict one another.


r/Gnostic 5h ago

Contradictions of Gnosticism — Is the story of the archons and Yaldabaoth false?

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r/Gnostic 1d ago

Manichaean Prayer Book

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Grace, peace, and love to all my brothers and sisters in Gnosis.

I simply wanted to share with you all a small prayer book I made.

It uses manichaean terminology and imagery, but It can be use by other gnostics too.

The openning parts explain in a very synthethic way my very personnal form of manichaeism (there is plenty of others)

What may be of interest to all of you is the Daily Office (for morning, midday and evening prayer), the psalter of light and the meditations.

I hope you find it useful!

F. H.


r/Gnostic 1d ago

Question A part of me can’t wait to die because I don’t think living is for me, but I’m not suicidal? I’m also afraid of what’s after death

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I’m new to Gnosticism and I wouldn’t say I believe in it but rather they are closest to my real beliefs. Lately a part of me is kinda looking forward to death so all my physical and mental pain can go away. What scares me isn’t death itself but mainly what comes after death and what this community’s thoughts on the afterlife is. Do I have to worry about judgement, is there a like review, is reincarnation optional or avoidable, do I need to fear eternal torment, do I exist as a ghost. There are so many possibilities.


r/Gnostic 2d ago

Remember

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r/Gnostic 1d ago

Thoughts Curious about feeling in prayer

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I just started studying gnosticism. I don't want this to be a long drawn out question or background, a little about me.

I used to go to church in my youth, Baptist, Pentecostal, Methodist and for a time Mormon. I went through the motions looking for answer and being part of something more, but when I went to church or prayed even putting feeling into it. I just felt disconnected. For the longest time I had an agonistic view, then one day I started watching a YouTube video about gnosticism and it piqued my interest

I ended up picking up the gnostic prayerbook by j. Puma when I started reading the writings of the nag hammadi. I decided after years of not doing things to pray. I just asked for wisdom to start help calming me working through my anger and built up rage. I am autistic and I am in therapy, but I think my being autistic led me to gnosticism as the background or catalyst.

But my question is that when I started praying, it felt different, not just saying the words. Every time I go through a prayer and even in closing it out, I get a tingle feeling in the back of my head, neck, middle of my chest and while I am typing this, my nose. It's not like a chill you get from sitting in front of an air conditioner, but just like a static feeling almost. Has anyone ever or does feel this when meditating or performing prayer?

TIA


r/Gnostic 1d ago

Thoughts I wish that I had love for God, instead of straight up fear. He terrifies me.

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Years ago when I was a kid and Into my young adult years, I loved God. I wasn't some hardcore Christian or anything, but I loved him and really thought he was amazing and loved me unconditionally. I thought I was gonna go to heaven just because I believed in him and loved him. That was of course, before I actually read what was in the Bible.

Now, I don't feel the same at all. Quite the opposite. I realize how mean and terrifying he really is. The whole "Believe in me and live by my book of rules, or be tortured forever" is so messed up, I can't look at God the same anymore. I realize that I can't live up to God's standards, and if I did, I'd be faking it. And God knows our hearts, so I'd be damned if I do, damned if I don't.

This sucks. I wish I could love God genuinely and have the desire to be a Christian without feeling like I have to out of fear, or that I could just simply be an atheist. (I'm not a Christian, never will be.)

Hell NDES (I know some are fake) and some people's visions, have convinced me that people do indeed go there and it's real. I just really want my life back. I hate fearing hell everyday. I hate fearing death.


r/Gnostic 1d ago

I need websites with gnostic texts complete not summaries can you recommend a website gnostic?

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Can you recommend websites that feature the complete Gnostic texts rather than summaries? I am interested in texts containing information about the Archons—especially the Archon of Death—and I am open to them being in any language.
Thanks.

r/Gnostic 2d ago

Meet the Archons

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6 Esoteric Equivalents to the Gnostic Archons

In ancient Gnostic cosmology, humanity is not entirely free. According to texts discovered at Nag Hammadi, our reality is overseen by Archons (from the Greek ἄρχων, meaning "ruler"): shadowy cosmic wardens born of ignorance who weave the fabric of fate, construct the material illusion, and feed on human unconsciousness to keep the divine spark trapped within the physical vessel.

While Gnosticism gave these wardens a specific mythological name, they are far from unique to Gnostic philosophy. Across nearly every major esoteric, mystical, and shamanic tradition, we find striking archetypal equivalents: forces, beings, or psychological parasites whose sole function is to govern the veil and keep consciousness asleep.

Here is how six major mystical traditions describe the equivalent of the Archons—and what they reveal about the nature of human liberation.

  1. Hermeticism: The Seven Planetary Governors (Zonai)

The closest historical sister to Gnosticism is Hermeticism, rooted in the teachings attributed to Hermes Trismegistus. In the foundational text Poimandres, the cosmos is structured in seven nested celestial spheres, each ruled by an astral governor.

The Mechanism: These rulers govern Heimarmene—cosmic fate, astrological determinism, and the laws of cause and effect. As the soul descends from the Divine Mind into physical incarnation, it passes through each planetary sphere, picking up energetic baggage: wrath from Mars, lust from Venus, ambition from the Sun, deceit from Mercury, and so on.

The Key Difference: Unlike the hostile, parasitic Archons of Gnosticism, the Hermetic Governors are cosmic administrators. They are not inherently evil; rather, they enforce cosmic equilibrium.

The Path to Freedom: To achieve liberation (apotheosis), the initiate must reverse the descent. During the soul’s ascent, it must pass back through the seven planetary gates, consciously stripping away the accumulated passions and returning to pure, sovereign consciousness.

  1. Toltec Shamanism: The Flyers (Los Voladores)

In the shamanic lineage documented by Carlos Castaneda and Don Juan Matus, the description of humanity’s unseen wardens takes on a raw, visceral quality. Don Juan speaks of The Flyers—an ancient, predatory inorganic species that holds humanity in a cosmic feedlot.

The Mechanism: According to Toltec sorcery, human beings naturally possess a radiant "glowing coat of awareness" that envelops the luminous egg of the body. The Flyers graze on this energy, consuming it down to the ankles. They leave behind just enough awareness for humans to survive, reproduce, and generate self-reflection, petty anxieties, fear, and ego-driven drama—the precise emotional frequencies they feed upon.

The Implantation of Mind: Crucially, Don Juan taught that the internal monologue—the neurotic, self-critical, restless voice in our heads—is not our own mind, but "the foreign installation" given to us by the predators to keep us docile, anxious, and easily harvested.

The Path to Freedom: The Toltec warrior starves the predator through internal silence, discipline, recapitulation (retrieving lost energetic fragments), and ruthless dismantling of self-importance.

  1. Buddhism: Mara and the Armies of Samsara

In Buddhist cosmology, the figure most aligned with the Archon archetype is Mara the Tempter, the lord of the Kama-dhatu (the realm of sensory desire).

The Mechanism: When Siddhartha Gautama sat beneath the Bodhi tree on the eve of his enlightenment, Mara unleashed his armies not with physical weapons, but with the triad of delusion: sensory craving (Tanha), fear/aversion (Arati), and pride/delusion (Raga). Mara’s function is to maintain Samsara—the endless loop of death and rebirth driven by karma and ignorance.

The Key Difference: In esoteric Buddhism, Mara is rarely viewed as an external demon with horns. He is the personification of the ego's defense mechanisms—the sticky, reactive nature of the conditioned mind that recoils from emptiness and clutches at identity.

The Path to Freedom: The Buddha did not conquer Mara by fighting him with force; he simply touched the earth and declared his right to awaken, witnessing Mara’s illusions without attachment or aversion. When recognized, Mara’s power dissolves.

  1. Kabbalah: The Qliphoth and the Sitra Achra

In Jewish mysticism and esoteric Kabbalah, the Archon archetype appears in the realm of the Qliphoth (literally "shells" or "husks") that inhabit the Sitra Achra ("the Other Side").

The Mechanism: During the creation of the cosmos (Tzimtzum), the divine light was poured into vessels that were too fragile to contain it, causing the "Shattering of the Vessels" (Shevirat HaKelim). The Qliphothic realms arose from the dead remnants of these broken vessels—dense, rigid, and disconnected from the divine life force.

The Parasitic Nature: Because the Qliphoth have no direct connection to the infinite source (Ein Sof), they act as cosmic vampires, latching onto the fallen sparks of divine light (Nitzotzot) trapped in human souls and feeding off spiritual stagnation, imbalance, and compulsive desires.

The Path to Freedom: The work of the Kabbalist is Tikkun Olam (the repair of the cosmos)—elevating the trapped divine sparks out of the husk of matter through conscious action, sacred study, and spiritual integration.

  1. Anthroposophy: The Ahrimanic and Luciferic Deceptions

In the modern esoteric framework of Rudolf Steiner’s Anthroposophy, humanity is caught in a spiritual crossfire between two distinct non-physical forces that pull consciousness away from balance:

Ahrimanic Beings: Cold, calculating, and mechanistic. They seek to convince humanity that the physical, measurable world is the only reality. They promote hyper-materialism, reductionist science, and digital entrapment, stripping the soul of its connection to the transcendent.

Luciferic Beings: Ethereal, seductive, and prideful. They tempt the soul to flee the physical body entirely into ungrounded spiritual fantasy, spiritual bypassing, and inflated egotism.

Together, these twin polarities act just like the Gnostic demiurgic forces: one binds consciousness to dense matter, while the other misdirects its spiritual longing into illusion.

  1. Indigenous Philosophy: The Wetiko Parasite

In Native American traditions, particularly among the Algonquin and Cree peoples, there is an ancient warning regarding Wetiko (or Windigo)—a spiritual parasite or mind-virus that infects human consciousness.

The Mechanism: Wetiko takes root in human psyche when individuals surrender to insatiable greed, hyper-individualism, and emotional consumption. Once infected, the person sees other living beings not as kin, but as resources to be consumed.

Collective Archonism: Wetiko mirrors the collective aspect of the Archons: an unseen, parasitic operating system that commandeers human institutions, drives endless consumption without fulfillment, and blinds humanity to its interconnected sacred nature.

The Esoteric Secret: The Guardian of the Threshold

Across all these traditions, a deeper esoteric truth reveals itself: the Archon is ultimately a Threshold Guardian.

Whether understood as interdimensional parasites, cosmic administrators, or projections of the unintegrated shadow, these forces serve as the cosmic immune system. They impose friction, weight, and limitation upon consciousness. They cannot be defeated by external warfare; they can only be transcended through Gnosis—direct, unmediated realization of one's true nature.

When the seeker stops reacting to their provocations, starves the ego-monologue, and roots awareness in sovereign presence, the illusory power of the wardens evaporates. The prison dissolves, revealing that the gate was unlocked all along.

What tradition’s perspective resonates most with your own understanding of consciousness and spiritual sovereignty?


r/Gnostic 1d ago

the truth will set you free

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know what is in front of your face and what is hidden from you will be revealed.

the more books we put in front of our faces, the harder it gets to know what is in front of our faces.
wouldn't it be easier to put it all away?

like.. if I would sit in front of a tree and try to know it.
why study a book about trees and not just stare at it and try to feel it?
why discuss theories about trees? even argue about how we think about the trees?

the kingdom of heavens is within. why search for the key outside?


r/Gnostic 1d ago

我是一个对于诺斯替主义感兴趣的中国人,但我实在不知道哪里可以找到资料

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想问是否有人可以帮助我,发给我一些可以学习的文件,语言没有关系,我可以让ai做翻译


r/Gnostic 2d ago

Beyond Fate

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According to Gnostic cosmology, the Archons control the material world through the cosmic order itself. Their authority operates through the forces governing embodied existence, including the planetary spheres and fate. This is where astrology becomes important. The planets were understood to influence human life, and their movements were believed to correspond with events on earth. Within the Gnostic worldview, astrology becomes the language of the Archontic order, revealing how the powers governing the cosmos also govern the conditions of human existence.

We have heimarmene, the Gnostic concept of fate. Fate rules our bodies and determines conditions we never chose. But something divine exists within us that does not belong to this order. The divine spark comes from beyond the cosmos and cannot be destroyed by the forces that govern it.

Our bodies may belong to fate, but the divine spark within us remains beyond its reach.


r/Gnostic 2d ago

Noah's nakedness in Genesis 9

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I've been thinking about Noah's nakedness in Genesis 9 through a Gnostic lens, especially after rereading The Hypostasis of the Archons.

Genesis first “clothes” Noah in an identity: righteous, blameless, faithful, chosen to survive the Flood.

Then Noah becomes drunk and lies naked.

Ham sees him uncovered.

Shem and Japheth deliberately refuse to look, walk backward, and cover Noah again. When Noah awakens, he curses Canaan.

What if “nakedness” can be understood spiritually here, rather than only physically?

The Nag Hammadi texts repeatedly use garments, nakedness, images, and likenesses when dealing with the difference between appearance and spiritual reality. It makes me wonder whether Ham symbolically sees what lies beneath Noah's covering, while his brothers refuse to see and restore the covering.

This becomes even more interesting in The Hypostasis of the Archons.

The being who commands Noah to construct the ark is identified as the ruler of the forces. Norea later approaches Noah seeking entrance to the ark, but Noah refuses her. Norea responds by blowing upon the ark and burning it.

And when the rulers confront Norea, she sees through them.

She recognizes them as rulers of darkness and rejects their claim over her. She knows she is not descended from them but originates from the higher world. When they attempt to overpower her, she calls upon the God above them.

That seems like the heart of Gnosis:

I know where I came from, therefore I recognize what you are, and I know that I do not belong to you.

It also makes Noah's role interesting.

Noah obeys the ruler and is called righteous.

Norea recognizes the rulers for what they are and resists them.

So perhaps being called “righteous,” “chosen,” or even belonging to the right lineage isn't the same thing as seeing.

This also reminds me of Jesus calling the religious authorities “whitewashed tombs.” The outside appears righteous, but the appearance isn't necessarily the reality underneath.

The same theme seems to keep appearing:

The ruler wears the title “God.” Noah wears the title “righteous.” The material likeness wears the appearance of the higher image. The rulers attempt to impose an identity upon Norea.

But Gnosis looks beneath those coverings.

Maybe that's why the detail that Ham sees Noah naked, while his brothers deliberately refuse to see and cover him again, stands out to me so much.

Perhaps “seeing nakedness” can symbolize seeing something without the identity, appearance, or authority that normally clothes it.

Image vs. Reality. Appearance vs. Knowledge. Garment vs. what lies beneath.

The truth isn't the clothing.

It's what lies beneath.


r/Gnostic 2d ago

Commentaries on the Corpus Hermetica: Book 4

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[These are my understandings of the Corpus Hermetica as translated by Clement Salaman under the title The Way Of Hermes. I was guided to this text in synchronous and auspices ways, devouring it in a short time span under the influence of great divine inspiration. Unfortunately, I did not set out to write my commentaries then. That inspiration came more recently. I was inspired to make this delectable text more digestible to those seekers who are taking a crack at it, and coming up puzzled and bewildered. These are not academically rigorous writings, so if you are interested in these texts from an academic perspective go elsewhere. This is for a dialogue between and for those of us who view this text as part of a living and active spiritual life. As one would gather for a bible study at their local house of faith.]

1-2: More proclamations about God's grandeur, creator of the the grand cosmology, etc... The most consequential line here, however, is, "The Cosmos rules over the life of living beings and man rules over the cosmos by means of speech and Nous." Man comes to dominate this world by the same attributes that make God...well God, Man seemingly has access to these same traits.[This is a profound breach with the old faiths. This is where the Corpus takes a dramatic turn toward Gnosticism, buckle up.]

3: "God has given the Word to all men to partake in, but not so with Nous." I interpret this to mean, that god has endowed all man with language, and with a baseline consciousness, but that is different from "Nous", which I interpret to mean access to the higher God Consciousness, and to a higher enlightenment, that which the Gnostic tradition calls 'gnosis.' Tat asks, "why would god do this...?" Hermes replies, "to set it up as a prize."

4: God sends heralds to declare this truth to man, the metaphor of the bowl is given, it suggests life is a crucible toward this enlightenment and ascension back to God, not all will make it through. "He filled a great bowl with Nous and sent it down, and he appointed a herald [Hi, I'm herald 😄]to make this announcement..."Plunge into this bowl, if you can, having faith that you will rise to him that sent down the bowl, realizing why you came into being." Those who heard the proclamation, merged with Nous, partook of higher knowledge and became perfect and complete, since they had received Nous. Those who missed the proclamation had the Word, but had not received Nous, ignorant as they were as to why they were born, and from whom." And thus, an ascension theology is established. [This is it friends, the great project before you, good luck to you. Remember who you are, and where you come from.]

5: The man without Nous is little more than the lesser animals of this realm, led by instincts and base desires, and ignorant to the gran plan of God, their maker. Where as the man with awareness of God gains some sort of Immortality, while the other remains mortal. [I take this to be similar to the budhist concept of reincarnation, that those who do not reach enlightenment are consigned to the perpetual wheel of Samsara.]

6: Here we get that Gnostic disdain for the material world, once awareness of the Supreme is achieved. Tat asks Hermes how he can access Nous, and Hermes replies with, "If you don't hate your body, son, you cannot love your Self. If you love yourself you will have Nous, and having Nous you will partake of knowledge." By this he means, you have to stop coveting material things, and that includes this shell or vessel that holds your true self, which is a disembodied spirit from the higher realm. It's also interesting the use of the term love, instead of say, "to know yourself." [It is said by those who profess to have experienced gnosis, that an overwhelming feeling of love overwhelms, that it is all encompassing. God is self loving for he loves all that he has made, and is, so when you tap into that God consciousness that is what you are feeling.]

7: At some point the choice has to be made between the material world and the spiritual one. As far as this book of the Corpus is concerned there is a definitive Right choice, and that is to choose the spiritual, the disembodied, the divine. To choose the material world and the body, is framed as a life of perpetual death and destruction, a choice which would offend God gravely.

8: This book suggests a lot of agency on our behalf, and that from that agency a lot of "evil" is begotten, it says quite literally, "God is not the cause of evil, we are to blame, preferring these things to what is good...Do you see son, how many bodies we have to pass through, how many bands of demons [figurative or literal is yet to be determined], through how many series of repetitions and cycles of stars, before we hasten to the One alone?" [As I said, it's crucible, it's not meant to be easy. How you react to things, even unjust things, dictates how quickly you ascend.]

9-12: The rest of the book attempts to warn Tat (the reader) that our journey begins with that initial knowing, but there are many pitfalls, many ways to be deceived or demoralized. Not all creations are perfect, weaknesses abound in them, and ultimately they might lose sight of God. "To those who have eyes, evil is most evident and the Supreme Good is hidden." Hermes attempts to bolster Gods position, as infinite, unbound less, yet subtle from or vantage point, and yet utterly worthy of pursuit. [The pursuit of knowledge and of God are one and the same.]

One last reassuring statement, "This is the image of God, O Tat, that has been drawn for you, as far as it can be. If you observe it clearly and reflect up on it with the eyes of the heart [highlight this!], believe me, my son, you will find the way to higher things."

[One can see how such Gnostic traditions were popular among intellectual elites through out the ages. There's the potential for 'airs of snobbery' no doubt. Many a secret society has been founded on the premise of keeping some special, hidden, forbidden knowledge among an elite few. But this developing theology, written here in the Corpus Hermetica, is tempered by the fact that true knowledge is eternal, it is about remembering a knowledge that has always existed. Thus attaining THIS particular knowledge should make you more "God-like", in the sense of being loving, caring, compassionate, giving...Good. It is a knowledge steeped in emotional intelligence.]


r/Gnostic 2d ago

The Nation of Islam: A perversion of Gnostic ideas?

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Okay, so I think it's needles to say that the NOI are full of it, but I can't help but see a certain similarity between it and Gnosticism. I think it's clear that Yakub is an odd mirror of Sophia, being the creator of a flawed creation that went on to be a corrupted ruler/rulers. Now, I admittedly don't know too much about the NOI, so I don't know if there are anymore similarities, but this always stood out to me. Hope you've enjoyed this installment of midnight ramblings of a guy who can't sleep on this particular night. :)


r/Gnostic 2d ago

A Philosophical Parable of the False Demiurge and the Quasi-Savior

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r/Gnostic 2d ago

Question Monad - The Completeness

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As i am trying to understand the nature of Monad, I am wondering since its so full and complete in all aspects, that is the reason, Monad doesn't answer prayers or intervene for humans ? Apologies if this sounds like a lame rookie question. I am of the opinion that the onus is on the humans to discover the divine essence of Monad within themselves and knowing this essence is the only way to reunite with the Monad. Please help me understand. I might be totally wrong but this seems to the central idea of Gnostic scriptures and I want to get this right once and for all. Thank you.


r/Gnostic 3d ago

Thoughts The Demiurgic Principle

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We live in an upside down world, where the people and institutions that claim to help us can sometimes become the very things that harm or exploit us. This doesnt mean every institution is secretly evil, or that everyone involved is corrupt. There is a much more interesting pattern here that can be understood through what we might call the demiurgic principle in man.

The Demiurge can be understood symbolically as the part of consciousness that creates an order and then mistakes its own creation for ultimate reality. It creates rules, hierarchies and systems, declares them necessary, and then places itself above the people living inside them. “I created the system, therefore the system is good. I define truth, therefore I possess truth. I have authority, therefore my authority is justified.”

We have plenty of real examples of this inversion. Institutions supposedly created to protect children have been implicated in trafficking and exploitation. The US State Department has documented cases involving orphanages being used to exploit children, while an investigation found serious failures in foster care systems to properly screen children for sex trafficking after they went missing. Pharmaceutical companies that exist to improve health have also paid billions in settlements over allegations involving fraudulent and misleading claims. The third leading cause of death in the US is medical error. Religious institutions that claim to lead people toward God have, in documented cases, protected abusers rather than the people they were supposed to protect.

You can see the same pattern in law, government and education. Law is supposed to protect justice, but what happens when protecting the legal system becomes more important than protecting the person? Religion is supposed to lead people toward God or liberation, but religious institutions can become systems of obedience and control. Government is supposed to serve the people, but power always becomes corrupt. Education is supposed to teach people how to think, but institutions become invested in teaching people what to think.

Food and medicine give us another glaring example. We are told the food industry exists to nourish us, yet research has connected things like processed food, processed meat and sugary drinks with serious disease, including cancer. Then there is a massive medical economy built around treating illness. Hospitals, pharmaceutical companies, cancer treatment centers and insurers can all make money from disease. Eventually there are industries surrounding death itself, including funeral homes. This doesnt prove that people are deliberately making us sick so they can profit from cancer and death, but the system can create incentives where different industries profit from different stages of the same cycle of suffering without anyone necessarily coordinating it.

We build systems for a particular purpose, then those systems develop their own interests. They want to survive, expand and preserve their authority. Eventually preserving the system becomes more important than the reason it existed in the first place.

Protection becomes control, care becomes commerce, knowledge becomes dogma, healing becomes an industry, justice becomes bureaucracy and liberation becomes another system of authority. Something created to serve human beings eventually starts demanding that human beings serve it. And on and on we go...

And this brings us back to gnosis and "waking up from the world". No worldly power, institution, ideology, government, religion or system can possess the final authority over what you are.

As William Ernest Henley wrote:

“I am the master of my fate:

I am the captain of my soul.”


r/Gnostic 2d ago

Utah Gnostic study group/book club

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Meeting tomorrow:

2:30 p.m., virtual, completely free, not interested at all and making a profit here. Just looking to connect with other people in Utah who are interested in gnosticism and other related topics.

See the link if interested, also read the description for the meeting just to make sure that it's something that is down your alley🙂

Please don't be weird, otherwise hope to see you there!

https://www.eventbrite.com/e/1998160953200?aff=oddtdtcreator


r/Gnostic 3d ago

Information Religion vs Gnosticism

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The era of Gnosticism created in the wake of the crucifixion of Jesus confronted the major religions of their day, accelerating the collapse of Roman Paganism, split Christianity from Judaism, and inspired Islam. To briefly summarize, one must first understand that Gnosticism is not itself a religion. There were Gnostics that believed Jesus was God incarnate, others that he was a Prophet of God, and the rest didn't care or knew him or believed something else. Gnosticism as a web of ideology that orients the individual towards spiritual liberation from the material world. That itself is extremely dangerous for organized religion, which requires willing obedience to doctrine and material capital to survive. Like Jesus, one can be religious AND gnostic, but a gnostic confronts the why of religious worship and purpose.

When Irenaeus wrote "Against Heresies," he did so with the intent of stamping out the flood of literature claiming to be Gospels of Jesus or his disciples. These texts varied church to church, claiming things like Jesus smited his classmates in a childhood tantrum, or he turned clay pigeons to life, or that he was a pure spiritual being and couldn't be touched. Those last two are important. As Gnostic communities became absorbed into the Catholic Church or destroyed, and Christianity was adopted by Emperor Constantine, the war against heresy inspired the very orthodoxy that Jesus preached against. The last of the Gnostics, who viewed Jesus as a Prophet and had been persecuted by Catholics, came across a merchant boy named Muhammad and taught him that the Bible was a corruption of the original teachings of Jesus. What followed was Islam, a religion that decidedly does not think Jesus died on the cross, nor attempts to explain what Jesus believed despite calling him a Prophet.

The takeaway isn't that Gnostics or Catholics were good or bad, true to Christ or lost in the debate. As a Gnostic Christian and believer in religious freedom/expression, I think it's less important to ask "who or what was Jesus?" and more important to answer "am I worthy of the cross?"

Gospel of Thomas, saying 19

"Jesus said, 'Blessed is he who was before he came into being. If you become my disciples and listen to my words, these stones will serve you. For you have five trees in Paradise that do not change, summer or winter, and their leaves do not fall. Whoever knows them will not taste death.'"


r/Gnostic 3d ago

Question Is LibraryoftheUntold a good resource for learning about Gnosticism?

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Hi, I’m not religious but I’m very interested in learning more about Gnosticism. I came across this video by LibraryoftheUntold and he was explaining the origins of Gnosticism.

How accurate is this?

I was wondering if anyone has watched his content before and if so is it a good resource to learn more about Gnosticism.

TIA