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u/qualityvote2 5h ago

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u/scgt86 5h ago

The kids need a distraction.

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u/Suc_Mydiq_Jr 3h ago

Kid spawner

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u/Krumm34 3h ago

Its basically a deer blind

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u/CharlesMcGrath 3h ago

I hate to say it, but I imagine that creating a pokestop there, while being held captive, was probably an attempt to bring attention to the island, and whoever did it, didn't think the Epstinkers would notice. I wonder when the stop was first created compared to the allegations

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u/Nieruz 2h ago

Should we start looking for other pokestops in small private islands?

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u/RaxisPhasmatis 3h ago

Considering the data collection done by Pokemon go was used for evil ai crap I'd say it's unlikely they put it there to bring attention as they're part of the evil assholes club

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u/New_Organization5084 2h ago

he is proposing a child victim could have placed it there.

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u/juniorkirk 1h ago

I think they meant to say “First of all, why was there ONLY one there????”

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u/ApathyofUSA 5h ago

High amount of child foot traffic, that's clearly why.

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u/RebsEG 5h ago

The whole thing was a global mapping and data gathering psyop. They wanted to map the island. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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u/Hydraguesswhosback 5h ago

Isn't this actually true ? Wasn't Pokemon Go just a cover to train AIs, but for reals actually ?

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u/No_Shoulder_8406 5h ago

Yes you are 100% correct on that, its likely going to be used for drone guidance, absolutely terrifying.

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u/Hydraguesswhosback 4h ago

Nah. Ukraine taught an entire country and dictator that manned drones are terrifying.

Meanwhile, the best thing that works automatically are flocks camera in the land of the pedophiles.

I'm not scared of AI automation anymore. Just annoyed. Humans will always be worst, because we have imagination.

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u/Bossnage 3h ago

Ukraine has used AI powered drones extensively recently. The most notable use was during Operation Spiderweb. They used a Tu-22M3, which was displayed at the Poltava Museum of Long-Range and Strategic Aviation, to train AI drones to target the correct points on the aircraft to do the most damage to the airframe.

Those drones weren't fully 100% autonomous but fairly close, the operators just did the final attack run manually, but they probably could have had the AI do them, mostly successfully.

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u/Hydraguesswhosback 2h ago

Oh, I'm sure that when you are fighting for your own survival, everything is fair game. I'm saying the dystopic future robot cops will probably never be autonamous because AI sucks way too much to do it alone. It's never going to not need a human hand to do it perfectly, and I'm fine with that. Humans should always be the ones taking lives, it should never be done automatically.

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u/nlamber5 2h ago

Not just imagination. We can be evil. We can decide to dedicate ourselves to harming others.

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u/MobileJob1521 4h ago

Not really terrifying, just practical.

One of the hardest parts of machine navigation is getting “truth” data or training information, that can only really be got from people.

It’s very costly gathering this, so if you can “game” the process so it’s fun, folks do it in their spare time.

It’s like the Captcha quizzes to see if you are a bot. The test is not clicking the right squares, it’s moving the mouse around like a human. Clicking the squares is just AI training data.

If you wanted to teach self-driving cars how to drive, all you would need is a road-facing camera and an internet connection.

Who has a dashcam?

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u/effyochicken 1h ago

It came out 10 years ago. 

If it was going to be used for anything it would have been by now. 

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u/ChewMaNutz 4h ago

The head company the owns Pokémon Go is now owned by a Civilian company in charge or raising funds for the CIA. Do with that what you will.

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u/s0_Ca5H 5h ago

Huh? Is there a source on this?

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u/Huge_Campaign2205 4h ago

"Trust me bro" but no seriously they mapped out pretty much the whole earth for free, then they said if they told people what they were doing nobody would play.

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u/BudgetMattDamon 2h ago

Yeah dude. Pokemon is literally the top grossing media franchise on the planet, and Niantic leveraged that into getting its fans to map every inch of the Earth for cute pixels. Truly diabolical. 

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u/RebsEG 4h ago

Yeah it’s actually true. You don’t get to factually say psyop very often.

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u/-Invalid_Selection- 4h ago

Yeah, it really was nothing but a crowd sourced map data collection.

Spots were generated based on where they wanted to improve data

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u/honeyemote 3h ago

Yeah, both in “scanning stops” by having players take photos and tracking player movement.

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u/Nir117vash 2h ago

Google the game Ingress. Then Google the definition of the word ingress

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u/Mirikado 3h ago

Nothing is confirmed of course but the founder of Niantic has very deep ties to the CIA.

Look up John Hanke. He worked for the US Foreign Service. His first start-up, Keyhole, was funded by the CIA and the earth mapping tech was used in Iraq in the 2000s. Then Google eventually acquired the tech and made it into Google Earth.

The second start-up he created was Niantic which eventually created Pokemon Go. Pokemon Go was banned in several countries for potentially being a US spy tool.

The biggest red flag is that in 2025, John Hanke sold Niantic to the Saudis, just the game division of the company. He kept the geomapping technology and spun off into a separate company. Then in the same year, he announced a partnership with a defense contractor, using the same tech that Pokemon Go players helped train for 10 years.

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u/AbberageRedditor69 2h ago

I mean it is confirmed, they never hid what they were doing and Niantic itself confirmed the technology was used for 3D geolocalization purposes.

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u/Xatsman 1h ago

It was made from the data players of the game Ingress submitted. Someone probably submitted a "portal" (potentially several) for that island when they were there. Essentially they were supposed to only be submitted where there were works of public art. It's those locations that were transformed into pokestops and gyms in PoGo.

Essentially Ingress was (openly) a geo data collecting exercise. The locations of various public works of art was valuable for a variety of reasons as was the pathways people would use going between them.

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u/fluffynuckels 2h ago

I don't think that was the original intent but thats what happened in the ling run

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u/Hydraguesswhosback 2h ago

Oh no it was. Maybe not the end client that did not existed yet, but the intent was there. That's why it was free and shite software wise.

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u/thisplaceisdying 5h ago

Stops and gyms are user submitted, and many of them were transfered over from ingress, a similar game.  Some employee or frequent guest just wanted to play the game.  Nothing weird at all, no conspiracy necessary.

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u/alkmaar91 2h ago

The real answer. I added 7 or 8 to my community college when it first launched and a few when it was ingress.

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u/Jefferooni 5h ago

Sad that you can only catch Kirlias and Gothoritas there...

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u/amboandy 4h ago

I thought you could only catch chlamydia and ghonorhoea

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u/Kingofpotat0 2h ago

Username… checks out…?!!

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u/alecesne 57m ago

What about some of the old schoolers? Jynx, Mr. Mime, Ditto?

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u/Brief-Curious 5h ago

Why do you know this?

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u/Flashy_Okra305 4h ago

It’s a thing called a joke

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u/FantasyFI 3h ago edited 3h ago

Which generation was that one in? Could it evolve?

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u/Brief-Curious 4h ago

Never heard of that

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u/Flashy_Okra305 4h ago

Yeah, we can tell

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u/Brief-Curious 2h ago

Sorry it's my first day on the Internet 

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u/Groundbreaking_Lie94 4h ago

Niantic please provide a list of everyone who has ever spun that pokestop...

Release the pokefiles.....

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u/ReactionJifs 2h ago

Professor Oak-stein 😱

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u/McWetty 5h ago

There was definitely some poke-ing going on there…

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u/m1tc4311 4h ago

If that were true i would be curious about what accounts interacted with it

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u/-Rhymenocerous- 4h ago

Imagine all the spoofers that use PGSharp to go there getting a knock from fed 😂

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u/BudgetMattDamon 2h ago

Be careful what you say on the Internet.

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u/m1tc4311 2h ago

MATT DAMON?!?

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u/No_Collection_8443 4h ago

For the kids man.

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u/powdered_dognut 3h ago

Gotta catch them all

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u/No_Collection_8443 3h ago

Such an ass game for the last thing you will play

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u/AceSpadePirate 3h ago

Gotta catch em all

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u/Available-Committee5 4h ago

They gotta do something before they're boiled in acid

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u/NatalieKCY 4h ago

Well... that's one way to lure kids onto the island

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u/LeoDiamant 4h ago

Can we get the data from Pokémon Go on who has collected this particular pokemon?

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u/elibou440 4h ago

So we could ask for the account of anyone that used it and track them

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u/Veggdyret 4h ago

Why is none in jail yet?!

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u/TyberiusJoaquin 4h ago

Epstein Island has exclusively Driftloons

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u/rebri 4h ago

It was there for the underage girls to find.

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u/derfzinkerbelle 3h ago

Someone played Ingress on Epstein Island...

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u/AveryTheOneAndOnly 5h ago

second of all, WHO THE FUCK LET MY CHICKEN NUGGET ON TWITTER!?

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u/Gameboyrules 4h ago

There are no laws against the pokemon batman. Not that that would stop them.

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u/NoGlzy 4h ago

Have you seen the circus of dorks that were in his circle, they were 100% battling in the gym in between the raping.

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u/Chayaneg 4h ago

Well, this supposed to be obvious...

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u/tylercrabby 4h ago

Lots of downtime between helicopters mate.

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u/thebooksmith madlad 4h ago

The front for all the pedophilia on the island was basically a giant celebrity resort (thats part of why we cant just arrest anyone who was a guest at the island). People probably requested one.

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u/Unknown_B1 3h ago

The kids were pokemon, they caught them all.

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u/LongNailedbooboos 3h ago

The kids loved Pokemon go

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u/Humbatiki 3h ago

Jefcatchu 

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u/Freddyeddy123 3h ago

For the kids

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u/analyst_kolbe 3h ago

Wow, they already removed it?  They move fast /s

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u/tboskiq 3h ago

Well where else were you gonna get Mr Mime?

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u/IBitePrettyPeople 3h ago

Pokemon Go stops were mostly automatically added based on OSM (OpenStreetMap) data and their points of interest.

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u/Attitude-Livid 3h ago

I bet you that pokestop gave the most amount of balls out of all the pokestops in the world because Epstein and the boys love balls. Probably even gave master balls because a lot of them were also masters.

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u/scoutingpool 55m ago

For the kids

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u/cabbagehandLuke 4h ago

Build it and they will come

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u/IAmTheBestIan 4h ago

That blows. It was the only place to catch this Pokemon.

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u/contadorcafe 5h ago

RIP to the Pokémon in the gym 😔

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u/Mithril911 5h ago

I think a hyphen is more appropriate than an accent, ie poke-stop

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u/No_Interaction_4925 4h ago

The accent is part of the Pokémon brand. And they never use hyphens. Otherwise we’d have Poké-mon

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u/Mithril911 40m ago

poke
/pōk/
Poke most commonly means to push or jab someone or something quickly

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u/potato_titties 4h ago

Gotta catchem all! And the Pokémon too.

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u/THE-poop-knife 4h ago

That's where you can find the shiny vaporeon

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u/stackoverflow21 4h ago

You wanna come to my island? There is a rare Pokemon there.

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u/envybelmont 4h ago

That’s a funny looking Miraidon…

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u/Lord_Jim_Bob 4h ago

It was probably a super rare one also 😬

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u/dwolfe127 4h ago

I mean Pokemon Go was pretty popular with middle aged men.

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u/visionaryOptions 4h ago

I pretty sure there was lickilicky there.

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u/Shadowpika655 4h ago

Tbf Epstein was intrigued by Pokemon Go

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u/Kufell 4h ago

Typhlosion's island.

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u/Emergency_Effect_526 4h ago

I would’ve been lopunny

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u/howarewestillhere 3h ago

Release the Epstein Pokémon Go files.

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u/wildyam 3h ago

You gotta catch em all

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u/ThomasTheDankTank 3h ago

I wonder if with this new knowledge we can look at other random spots that virtually no one goes, to see if there’s pokestops and find if there any illicit activity going on.

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u/vcdrny 2h ago

I'm assuming that the stops were chosen based on meta data of places younger people will go to. We all know why there underage individuals in that island.

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u/totallyclips 2h ago

Isn't that mostly for children

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u/Nir117vash 2h ago

Something something ingress

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u/Stealerb 2h ago

As a man who played Pokemon Go in his 40's, this proves nothing. I wished there was a pokestop at the end of my driveway so I didn't have to go so far.

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u/simmeh024 2h ago

They should show everyone whoever spun that stop. Then we truly know all names..

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u/GottaUseEmAll 2h ago

Sadly, it's probably mostly the young victims.

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u/fluffynuckels 2h ago

Was there anything on the island? Do normal people live there?

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u/H3llzyea 2h ago

Kind of on brand with the whole “gotta catch them all” slogan right?

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u/Empty_Positive 2h ago

Jeffrey Epstein the godfather of CP, call of duty points

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u/EarlyXplorerStuds209 2h ago

I read this as “why was there only one?” and I found that even more funny

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u/PresentProperty943 2h ago

.... For the kids.

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u/Possible-Tangelo9344 1h ago

What do you mean why was there one there? It's pretty fucking (bad word choice maybe) obvious why there was a poke stop there

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u/_XxAphroditexX_ 1h ago

It encourages ppl to invade Epsteins Island and discover his secrets. The cops can’t take down a large crowd.

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u/JetstreamGW 1h ago

Because someone requested it. You just have to be level 35, and the location has to be stable.

And then it stays til someone reviews it. Which may never happen, without reports.

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u/dat1_adam 1h ago

To stop the poking. Didn't work.

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u/Kugelfischer_47 1h ago

Gotta catch em all

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u/Lukebekz 1h ago

I wonder how GPS spoofing messed with their data

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u/LefroyJenkinsTTV 48m ago

Because like most pokestops, someone paid for the stop to be put there.

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u/windows-1995 43m ago

I would assume it was for surveillance purposes, how do you get camera footage of a off limits or private area? Make it a game for people to use their camera in the area and problem solved

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u/snusnu4me 32m ago

If I remember correctly Niantic placed pokestops using Ingress data. The real question here is if Jeff was Enlightened or Resistance 🤣

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u/Famous-Host2321 9m ago

Well, who made Pokemon Go, really? And what pies were JE's fingers dipped in?

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u/Penne_Trader 4h ago

The actual bad thing with this

That poke stop had all the data of every smartphone which was on epstein island...which are bound to names which pay them to keep running...which would have been pretty easy for a government to look up and cross reference

Nintendo is covering for epstein co-conspirators...

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u/Flashy_Okra305 4h ago

This is a reach. Not everything is a conspiracy and it’s weird that you assume theyre doing this maliciously and that the data is deleted and not, you know, having already been turned over to the proper authorities ages ago. Also pogo is not owned by Nintendo, it’s owned by niantic. 

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u/Penne_Trader 4h ago

Ok, explain it then to me...

Why did Nintendo delete that pokestop incl data in the moment it became public that epstein island has a pokestop on it, while epstein was still alive but in prison?

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u/Shadowpika655 4h ago

Epstein was alive but still in prison in 2026?

Hell, the pokestop didnt even exist until 2020 (or 2021)

Anyway, it was deleted due to the negative publicity thay having a pokestop on Epstein Island incurred (plus Epstein Island being inherently against TOS)

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u/Technical_Stand9939 3h ago

i suspect it was put there since they put them at almost any local landmark. That is a landmark. I doubt anyone goes in depth.

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u/thebooksmith madlad 3h ago

Negative PR. You do realize that Epstein island was basically the Disneyland for Hollywood right? Thousands of people came to that island purely to vacation and have a good time, not to rape and eat children. Thats why we cant just ostracize/arrest anyone who's ever been to the island, there were tons of people who just went for the amusement, even going as far as to bring their own children to join in.

Basically there was a valid reason to have a poke stop on the island, once it came out there was still one there, they removed it. It was probably overlooked in the initial controversy as millions of poke stops exist. As for the info being deleted, it litterally doesn't effect anything as confirming who was on the island isnt a problem these days, its who was the guilty on the island that is the issue.

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u/Technical_Stand9939 3h ago

No, it is not a very big island. Little St. James is only about 70 acres with only a handful of villas. Basically a place that maybe 20 people could go at a time.

Not everyone was there to do terrible things, but it was not the sort of place that everyone in hollywood was going to.

The island is different than just appearing in his files- the files could be as dumb as epstien sending you fan mail, or trying to buy your used car off a FBMP listing (i know there was a celeb caught up in that due to a plane being sold). The island was a small club, the files are just anyone he ever contacted.

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u/Flashy_Okra305 4h ago

It’s owned by Niantic, not Nintendo, if you can read. Any normal company would want to distance themselves. Im sure if they left it up you’d be asking why they left it up 🙄

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u/Hydraguesswhosback 5h ago

You gotta do something between anal rapings

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u/CyberDragonEX13 1h ago

Niantic, the fuck was that? Really makes me wonder what happened to cause that spot to spawn as a Pokestop.

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u/fundzzz 3h ago

Distraction from probably numerous grown men with grown men sized appendixes being forced inside them repeatedly while they’re alone and far away from and friends or family on some island? Would have to be an INCREDIBLE distraction to start from something like that.

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u/EldritchDWX 5h ago

Even paedos play Pokémon

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u/Shadowpika655 4h ago

I mean Epstein was intrigued/impressed by Pokemon Go

He even sent this video to an associate to help pitch an idea

side unrelated note but one of Epstein's financials advisors (i think) pushed very hard for Epstein to buy Nintendo stock, ehich i find quite funny