AK-12M1 mud test

[u/StrangerOutrageous68]

A test where the mud didn't get into the most vulerable spot of the AK, the frontal area of the carrier.

This is self-promotion but I wrote a big post that connects up with this topic if any of you are interested how complex mud can be and what modifications can potentially help: https://www.reddit.com/r/InRangeTV/comments/1sbvuxt/the_complex_topic_of_mud_testing_ars_aks/

Original video: https://youtu.be/RuET2IkRM7Q

[u/dassketch]

Look how well our perfect weapon works when we test it with a sock and minimal mud 🤣

[u/ZenBarlow → u/dassketch]

The InRange test is definitely more intense than this one and will show the upper limit of a weapon’s ability to work covered in basically liquid cement.

This video demonstrates more accurately the battlefield conditions in UA. You’re more likely to drop/throw a rifle into the muck of early spring than have a miniature landslide cover the action of the rifle.  

Val has a great overview of the K model that was liberated from a BDV commander. 

https://youtu.be/WDwYwcxnbJk

[u/StrangerOutrageous68 → u/ZenBarlow]

Another thing to note that, there is no one set battlefield condition nowhere. The terrestrial variable is what makes mud very dangerous, especially in Ukraine, Belarus and Russia. They have the worst seasonal muds perhaps anywhere on the planet. True tank stopping, man killing muds if you have researched it, know it perhaps from historical records or have seen it now sadly.

Seasons on top of all that can make mud worse or, more managable on equipment.

[u/StrangerOutrageous68 → u/ZenBarlow]

The InRange tests are in fact not the toughest tests out there. They are closer to "real-world" conditions and are good for identifying weak points on guns. Such as that frontal locking lug area of the AK, and debris getting in the gun from the lip of the top cover and the front of the carrier. However, not all guns get the same amount of mud of the mud. That is a difficult task to do, if you have minimal resources. You would have to test all guns in one pit at the same time of day. At least that is how I would do it, to be more consistent. But this is an EXTREMELY complex topic I wrote at length about and perhaps there's something I overlooked. BUT! If I had to make a list about the most demanding mud tests I've ever seen.

1. https://youtu.be/xFldS6aLPTE (NOT because the way the test was conducted, but because of the clay mud that stopped both the AK and AR. and the remedial action that was shown on both.)
2. https://youtu.be/O0-Im1pjfIU (NATO standard replication test, with actually immersing the gun in mud.)
3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyXndCxn9K4&list=PLj9u4Ts2NpEv4Fnwx2_ig4wVqiONfH1me (Because again, you will get to see weak points on guns in the mud used on x y z guns)
4. https://youtu.be/e-kE_wbGLhE (Because of the random mud puddle has a possibility of more chunks and debris in them than pre-prepared mud.)

However, there MIGHT be interesting things to see and learn about that compromised a design, or made it act strange in even the less than less formal tests. Such as random people throwing their guns in mud puddles.

[u/arteg489 → u/dassketch]

I mean, that test is done by a Ukrainian on a current war Russian weapon.

[u/UsualSuspect95 → u/dassketch]

The guy in the video is speaking Ukrainian.

[u/StrangerOutrageous68 → u/dassketch]

It was not an intensive test, but that that patch of mud can disable a gun if it gets to the right place. You see, it did not get to the frontal part of the carrier, like I wrote. That is the weakest point on the AK.

[u/EnsioPistooli]

Nothing interesting here. If mud stays out, it can't interfere.

[u/StrangerOutrageous68 → u/EnsioPistooli]

I highly recommend you to watch other mud tests. It depends on a lot. And you will see how much of what mud it takes to stop a gun, even if not much stays on the gun.

[u/JoseHey-Soup]

AK12 > Stoner, just as I suspected. 🤣