r/Kanna • u/___kanna___ • May 28 '25
Some active moderation and cleanup is needed on this subreddit. I am going to be adding a few rules related to marketing(as I mentioned in my last post). I would also like to have some updated guides and vendor lists for new users.
So I am here looking for people willing to help improve this subreddit. I would like some help writing guides, and some help with moderation as new rules are put in place. If anyone is interested in volunteering, please message me.
For those wanting to become mods, I prefer to include people who have a history on this sub, and a history of sub moderation in general.
And from the rest of the community, I would appreciate any suggestions for the subreddit that would make it better than it is now. Please comment below and give feedback on the comments so I can get a feel for people's opinions.
r/Kanna • u/Polytrewq • May 27 '21
Sceletium tortuosum more commonly known as Kanna is a succulent plant originating in South Africa. Kanna has been used by San and Khoi tribes of South Africa for centuries to relief thirst or hunger, to combat fatigue, as a medicine, and for social and spiritual purposes. After the harvest it was left to ferment and then used as a quid(chewed) or smoked with other herbs. Nowadays it can be used orally in a pill or tea form, sublingually, intranasally or smoked/vaped. Most popular forms of Kanna are extract powders, fermented leaf/tea cut, fermented powder and recently liquid tinctures ideal for vaping.
Effects and their intensity vary slightly depending on the route of administration, dosage and people's biochemistry. In general Kanna has anxiolytic, calming, anti-depressive, empathogenic and mood lifting effects. It enhances touch, libido and colours slightly and music noticeably, especially when snorted. It might make you more talkative and social, improve your motivation, suppress your appetite or offer mild pain relief. Kanna is both stimulating and sedating. Higher doses generally become more sedating.
Kanna rush is most noticeable when snorted and lasts about 10-15 minutes that gradually fades into a happy calm feeling with this ROA. It is not easy to describe since Kanna is it's own thing but most people compare it to a sudden and rapid entactogen(MDMA, benzofurans, etc) or psychedelic comeup with relatively strong euphoria, slight dizziness/vertigo, stimulation with urge to move or dance when listening to music. Some people find the rush overwhelming and anxiety inducing, which can be mostly attributed to anxiety prone personality, due to underestimating the effects of Kanna or incorrect dosage.
Side effects might include nausea, laxative effect, which should subside after regular use, sweating, pupil dilation and mild headache. Some people report trouble sleeping and anxiety.
Dosage varies depending on the ROA, the form and each person's biochemistry. Some people experience reverse tolerance meaning they have to take Kanna several times before they feel the effects. This is called priming. Unfortunately few people don't experience any effects from Kanna even with priming. Biggest mistake new users do is underestimating the effects and taking very high dose their first time. Start with the dosages mentioned below and adjust accordingly.
Insufflation - start with 10-15mg of extract powder or 30-40mg of non-extract powder. Snorting fermented leaf/tea cut is not recommended. Crush the extract as much as possible before insufflating. When snorting, use only little more force than you do when breathing, so it doesn't end up in your throat. Using saline nasal spray before insufflating improves absorption since less powder gets to your throat. You should also use it after the snorting to keep your nose healthy. The effects manifest in 5-10 minutes and last up to 1-2 hours. Insufflation is best for recreational use.
Sublingual - start with 20-30mg of extract powder or 100mg of fermented leaf/tea cut or fermented powder. Keep under the tongue for at least 15 minutes without swallowing the saliva. If you have fermented leaf/tea cut you can try chewing it. The effects become noticeable in 20-40 minutes and can last up to 4 hours. Sublingual use is ideal if you want anxiolytic, anti-depressive and calming effects.
Oral - start with 200mg of leaf/tea cut or fermented powder. Dosing extracts orally is not very cost-efficient but if you still want to try, start with 60-75mg. Oral ROA is usually less consistent than sublingual or insufflation. Effects typically last 3-6 hours. Some users experience elevated mood even next day. Most popular oral product in a pill form is Zembrin, which is mainly focused on anxiolytic effects. It is standardized extract with few clinical trials.(1, 2, 3)
Smoking - most common practice is to sprinkle some extract on weed/tobacco. If you have leaf/tea cut you can mix it with the weed/tobacco.
Kanna contains up to 32 psychoactive alkaloids which have distinct pharmacological profiles and effects. The dominant, and clinically significant alkaloids in Sceletium tortuosum are mesembrine, mesembrenone, ∆7-mesembrenone, mesembrenol and tortuosamine, though the minor alkaloids undoubtedly play important roles in the overall pharmacological effect too. The distribution and variability of these alkaloids differs from plant to plant due to factors such as cultivar, season, geographical and climatic factors, growing conditions and age.
Mesembrine is the most notable psychoactive alkaloid present in Kanna. Mesembrine acts mainly as a VMAT-2 upregulator, serotonin reuptake inhibitor and PDE4 inhibitor. It is assumed mesembrine is responsible for the Kanna rush.
Mesembrenone is an SRI and PDE4 inhibitor. Mesembrenone-based extracts are most useful in therapeutic utility, because the rush they produce is not intense or barely noticeable.
For a more in-depth pharmacology profile check this great post by u/tfgust.
Although Kanna is well tolerated with many substances, it should NOT be combined with antidepressants(SSRI, SNRI...), strong MAOIs and serotonin releasers(entactogens like MDMA, 6-APB, 3-MMC etc.).
Kanna and weed/alcohol will potentiate each other. Other good synergies include coffee, kratom, phenibut, damiana or blue lotus. Interaction with classical psychedelics like mushrooms, LSD seem mainly positive, but there have been a few negative reports. According to anecdotal reports Adderall and Kanna have also good synergy, but it's important to start with small doses.
Kanna is generally considered non-toxic, safe to consume and doesn't cause addiction. There are mixed reports on withdrawal symptoms when taken regularly over longer period of time(3+months). Some people report stopping cold turkey without any symptoms, while others notice brainzaps or symptoms similar to stopping prescription antidepressants, although weaker.
For a more thorough information check another good post by u/tfgust.
Is Kanna like natural MDMA?
No. The only slightly similar thing Kanna has with MDMA is the initial rush, which is only a part of the whole experience. Kanna is it's own thing.
I took Kanna and don't feel anything.
Most common issue if you don't feel anything is the quality of the product. There are a lot of bunk products on the market. Another reason might be reverse tolerance.
Can i redose Kanna?
Redosing in short period of time usually doesn't work or has diminished effect. Waiting at least 4 hours between doses is recommended.
Can i use Kanna daily?
Yes. Taking Kanna daily should be safe if you don't overdo it. However you might develop tolerance to it. Listen to your body.
I take Kanna regularly and still want to take MDMA sometimes. How should I go about it?
Since Kanna appears to have relatively short half life, not taking it 2 days before your roll should be fine. If you want to be super safe wait a week before rolling.
I take xy prescription antidepressant. Can I take Kanna?
It is not recommended to mix Kanna with antidepressants since both work as serotonin reuptake inhibitors. The only common antidepressant that should be safe with Kanna is Bupropion(Wellbutrin).
Can I combine Kanna with xy substance?
See the section Interactions and synergies.
Can I drive while on Kanna?
Don't drive during the initial Kanna rush, since it can make you disoriented. After that it should be safe.
Will Kanna show up on drug tests?
No, it won't. It shouldn't cause false positives either.
Can I grow my own Kanna?
Yes. Kanna is quite easy to grow. You can buy seeds in various shops online or from a fellow member u/salviasammich
I have harvested my own Kanna. How do I ferment it?
Here is a good guide.
List of vendors is here. Share your experience in that thread.
More reading available at:
r/Kanna • u/Used_Piano_4129 • 7h ago
Little help. Found this. No idea what it is. Any information about it, effects, what it feels like, quality of brand…etc. I just don’t know and I can’t find anything about it on the internet. Thanks in advance.
r/Kanna • u/Wise-Class5193 • 17h ago
Really wanna know what’s in them so going to send them into a personal lab I’ve seen on other lab reports and will update everyone with results
r/Kanna • u/VehicleAppropriate75 • 16h ago
Hey guys,
I'm looking at ultrakanna website, and there are so many options. I'm looking something to make me feel in a good mood, energetic and happy, enjoy the music, and approach women. Something a bit similar to alcohol hopefully? Which type of Kanna would you recommend?
Also, do you think extract is better than liquid?
I saw the two options:
ET2-ZSpec Kanna Powder Extract 1g
MX-8 Kanna Powder Extract 1g
Thanks in advance!
r/Kanna • u/tony_bologna • 13h ago
With all the different products and approaches, I'm curious how **you all** are enjoying and using Kanna. Is it a party drug or a medicine for you? Is it a new vice, a replacement vice? How do **you** like to use Kanna?
Oral, sublingual, insufflated?
Everyday use? Occasional use? Special occasions?
Microdosing, macrodosing, redosing?
Recreational, medicinal?
r/Kanna • u/jackedgalifianakis • 1d ago
I’m on drug court so this could put me in jail or rehab. I took 4 Rollie pollie kanna extract tabs, 2 Saturday 2 Sunday. Today I tested positive for meth amphetamine. I am fkd. Can anyone tell me if this is maybe a false positive and when the labs come back it’ll show that? Could I possibly get this out of my system by tomorrow?
r/Kanna • u/Wise-Class5193 • 16h ago
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r/Kanna • u/neon_rains • 1d ago
Would there be any danger of serotonin syndrome when combining, for example, 50mg of a kanna extract, 250mg of eria jarensis (N,N-Dimethylphenethylamine), and 250mg of PEA?
I have previously used up to 1000mg of whole plant kanna with 375mg of eria jarensis, and combined this with many other substances that act on monoamines, like l-tyrosine, DMHA (1,5-Dimethylhexylamine), modafinil, caffeine, theanine, theacrine, yohimbine, etc. and been fine.
I've just never used PEA in this combination.
r/Kanna • u/Caffeinated_Davinci • 1d ago
Hey all, I'm trying to place my first order with UltraKanna but I'm having issues at every step. First when I try to make an account, it won't send me a password change email. Password reset emails don't come through either.
Then I decided to just place an order using the temp password and sort it out later. This is when I discovered that their website fails transactions every single time I try to checkout. There's no error message other than something saying "There was an error processing your order. Please check for any charges in your payment method and review your order history before placing the order again." Then my order history says "failed" next to every attempted purchase. They also have a button next to them that says "pay" but I'm scared to try this.
So far this site is seemingly like it's not actually in operation anymore. Has anybody else placed an order with them and actually had it work within the last couple weeks? I saw their reddit handle and checked that, but it's been inactive for 3 years. I'm wondering if this vendor is just inactive and not taking purchases?
Update: I tried paying using the "pay" option in my order history and now it's saying the order has been paid and is processing? I'm still not receiving ANY type of email communication from them at all, no order confirmation or tracking info email at all. I'm getting worried they'll charge me and never actually send anything. I'm not sure what's going on, but their website is definitely having issues if they are actually still in operation. Hoping I get what I ordered and don't have to do a chargeback with the bank.
r/Kanna • u/LuckySplit3815 • 1d ago
I'm planning to take Kanna (Sceletium tortuosum / Zembrin 50 mg) with blue lily powder sublingually. Is sublingual the recommended route for this combo, or what you recommend? I'd love to hear about your experiences, as well as any recommendations.
I preferred the sublingual method because to have the rush compared to tea.
Thanks.
r/Kanna • u/MoneyPraline7303 • 2d ago
Ive heard a lot about this, and it sounds really fun. I have pretty severe adhd and mild bipolar, and this seems like a good option to get out of states of misery and do something. i have messed around a little bit with other stuff (codine, xanex just seditives and some mild hallucinogens) those help to feel better, but when i com down all ive done is wasted time, i was looking for an upper of some sort, ive tried prescription stimulants and they help focus but theres still a severe lack of enjoyment.
Ive looked into kanna a little and i think i want very quick release and hopefully a short ish duration (ive noticed that if things go bad with long durations i start to get anxiety and just want to be normal again) snorting kinda looks like the go to here, but im not sure. i dont want to smoke anything (severe lung issues run in the family, and im not playing with god like that) and the other methods dont seem as effective of efficient.
When it comes to what and where to buy i am comepletely lost. i want to do this on the cheaper side and im looking for the mdma like euphoria (PLEASE not as strong tho i would die) i just want to feel better, just for a little and maybe get something done. I dont know what strain(?) to buy or where to get it. what should i look out for and what is a red flag. i am live in the usa (unfortunately, if thats important for sourcing) im also on lamictal, dont know if that matters but i might as well check
whats should i do once i try it? i like playing music and ive been trying to get back into art. Is there any random things that could make the experience more enjoyable? kind of a weird question but i wanna get my bang for my buck. sorry for the long post, thanks for reading, would love to hear your input.
r/Kanna • u/Rich_Sprinkles3556 • 3d ago
I don’t drink anymore, and I work almost. 7 days a week but I’d like an outlet for when I go to shows or hangout with people that doesn’t throw me off my game, , weed is social anxiety, drinking was fun but I’m done drinking for probably the rest of my life. Let me know I’m interested in kanna for sure thanks
r/Kanna • u/Glum-Acanthisitta322 • 3d ago
should i do TR55? is that one with a lot of Mes? i’m told that’s what i want
r/Kanna • u/soulpuma • 3d ago
Heard about it from a friend here in Colorado... curious if anyone's tried it?
https://www.instagram.com/apexkanna/
r/Kanna • u/theseawoof • 4d ago
Reading conflicting things here, wondering what seems to be the general idea. Does a newer user need to take it daily to introduce it? I want to have some tomorrow night and record music. Should I be taking it beforehand or something? I tried it a few weeks back and didn't really feel anything, but had taken kratom prior 🤷
r/Kanna • u/EthnoBotanicalsTC • 4d ago
New seed grown plants grown in-vitro can’t wait to start propagating them.
r/Kanna • u/Outside_Government29 • 4d ago
Hey guys,
I to take a few grams of red vein Kratom every Saturday as a weekend ritual. However, I'm looking for healthier, non-addictive alternatives.
I came across Kanna and decided to give Kanna extract a try. This is my current blend:
I know comparing Kanna to Kratom is like comparing apples to oranges, but I'm just curious if Kanna (and my blend) is something for me.
I love the euphoria I get from Kratom, and how I could spend a good hour just sitting and watching YouTube. But I don't like how sedative Kratom gets after the initial peak.
r/Kanna • u/Majestic_True_Lilly • 4d ago
Its not as strong as RM12 but it kicks hard for a 10% and the flavor is really really good.
r/Kanna • u/helpless11 • 5d ago
Hello, I’m wondering what kind of effects I might experience from this extract when dealing with anxiety on a daily basis, such as GAD.
I’m not taking any SSRIs at the moment, so I’ve been thinking about giving it a try, but I’m not really sure what to expect. Is it maybe somewhat similar to benzos or other anxiolytics, just without the sedation? Or is that not really a good comparison?
The only kanna extract I’ve tried before was Zembrin, and that basically did nothing for me, even after I finished the whole bottle.
Thanks
r/Kanna • u/Alexander_V1024 • 5d ago
I just received this in the mail today and I’m curious to try it out. The ratio looks ok i prefer high Mesembrine Kanna so I’m looking forward to it!
r/Kanna • u/aHingaDingaDurgan • 5d ago
Tldr, wondering what to expect from Kanna and what sort of experiences it might be similar to
I can't smoke anymore, it makes me extremely paranoid and my nerves go haywire where I feel like I'm going to combust lol. Been on Kratom for years now, that sort of replaced cannabis for me and helped manage pain/anxiety etc. Kind of dulled me though, and I am trying to find my way back to creating and tapping into that state of mind for art. Been tapering from kratom, sorta looking to find something that I can try when entering a creative session just as cannabis used to do for me.
I have some Kanna from Mitra Man, but the minimum recommended dose didn't do anything the first few times I tried it under the tongue. The first time I felt a slight come up like some feeling was going to occur, but then it subsided. Could have been masked by the kratom, or perhaps it's a reverse tolerance thing where I need to keep trying?
Anyways, how would you describe expected effects? Spark of euphoria similar to cannabis, cocaine bump etc?
