r/LeftHandPath 9d ago

obedience vs reverence in the Left Hand Path?

I have much respect for the draconic/demonic entities. and since I don't mean any disrespect for when I start to work with them. I have to ask if obedience is necessarily required and, if so, to what level. I still want to maintain my code of ethics. For example, I admire Lilith and much of what she represents (independence/lust/creativity), but on the other hand, I don't necessarily think that abortions are a good thing. Would I disrespect the "mother of abortions" by not advocating for something that I don't think is good? Like I said, I mean no disrespect to these entities; in fact, I think they are even above good and evil. But I think I need to know how to properly honor these entities in my own way. I need to know if that is possible.

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u/Drakodriven 8d ago edited 8d ago

As I understand it this type of being would prefer to discourage any counterproductive form of obedience (which is to say, most of it.) There's "obedience" from a place of respect and trust, where you are doing it not because you fear the higher being but because you understand they may genuinely have a scope of perspective that you do not, and there is fear based obedience where people are compelled to blindly follow with threats of punishment, which is what you see in most forms of widespread organized religion.

I do not know about the 'demons,' but the draconians I know of prioritize discipline and consistency and having a 'code of honor' of sorts, so if you'd like to work with them it is better to show up with these qualities. They are known for 'testing' people, such as deliberately doing things that would induce fear (specifically to see if you will overcome that fear,) to see if you are ready to be around their energy or not. So it is less about subjugating others to their will and more about bringing people up closer to their level. The fear based obedience would be counterproductive to that goal so that's not what they want.

They are interesting because while they very much do want to elevate us, they don't exactly see the bulk of humanity in a positive light because so many struggle with these qualities. So they do not work with those who cannot withstand this kind of energy or are afraid of it. For them, respect is always earned, never given.

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u/nallerine 8d ago

You're an individual, you don't need to follow and agree with every single opinion of anyone in the world, human or spirit.  What you said about them being above good and evil - to me that means that they see the merit of every single point of view, taking them as they are, without moralizing. There are many ways to look at the same thing. Just because she's connected to that specific concept, doesn't mean it's an opinion to argue, like you would with a human. You're good. 

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u/Efficient_Elk1225 8d ago

Don’t be stupid is the governing principle here. If you’re in over your proverbial head unclear what to do you probably have to listen to the demon more. If you’re trying to decide what to eat for breakfast the demon doesn’t care-unless it’s nacho fries & then they care very much-knowing what you know & what you don’t know is the important part you have to figure out.

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u/TheMephistoLens 5d ago

It is not about obedience In fact, we are to view them as an equal. In draconian lore, Lilith is not viewed simply as a malicious demon of abortion, she is revered as a primal goddess of absolute spiritual liberation. Lilith rules over both life and death. When texts, or practioncers within the draconian current associate her with abortion or infertility, it is typically understood as an alchemical metaphysical concept, rather than a literal crime or sin.

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u/Reasonable-Point-713 3d ago

You cant be MORAL and say you worship them. Moral ethics are the reason why you ARE NOTHING. you gotta descend deep down into the lower void. Where all daemons and so on reside. Read sabbatean kabbalah and jackb franks kabbalah.