r/OptimistsUnite 5d ago

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Obviously no one can really tell the future but with medication, pushback against unhealthy foods, etc… do you really think obesity will continue to rise and rise over the next 50-100 years or do you think we are at or close to a tipping point where it will start to go down? I’m just curious what people think, personally I am overweight and imagining half the world having to struggle like I do breaks my heart so I’m interested in what people’s opinions are on the topic.

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u/MindIcy8366 It gets better and you will like it 5d ago

Idk, I can't imagine it getting much higher than it is, honestly. The main reason it's so high at all is that the cheapest and most convenient foods are often high-calorie, which entices people to consume more calories than they can burn off, simply because it's easier that way. Right now there seems to be a bit of a rise in awareness regarding that? As you said, no one here is an oracle or whatever, but from my perspective it seems like if we haven't already passed the peak, we're about to pass it.

Also a fat guy, if that matters at all lol

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u/moneyman74 5d ago

I think cheap oral GLP 1 meds will turn the tide on adult obesity eventually but it could take 20 years.

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u/Zyykl 5d ago edited 5d ago

friendly reminder to all fat people reading this to not walk but RUN to get GLP-1. im down about 9 pounds in just under 2 months and i have not counted a single calorie. in the states you can buy it online for about $130-$200 per month without speaking to a single person, no GP, no insurance, no nothin.

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u/demoncrusher 5d ago

I’m down close to 25 pounds and I’ve not thought about it at all. Get the shot.

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u/bgaesop 5d ago

You can get it way cheaper than that. I'm paying about $40 a month 

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u/19610taw3 4d ago

I'm afraid of the long term affects of them.

There's a lot of 50-60 year olds suffering and dying from hemorrhagic strokes from miraculous diet pills in the 1980s-90s.

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u/Zyykl 4d ago

you should be more afraid of the long term affects of being overweight. heart disease is the #1 killer of people in the US, ahead of all cancers, and keep in mind diabetes is a separate category.

also, i wasnt able to find anything about weight loss pills stroking people out 30 years later. phenylpropanolamine was a weight loss supplement that was banned by the FDA in 2000 for causing strokes, but it occurred within a few days of ingestion.

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u/demoncrusher 4d ago

It’s a 20 year-old drug, it was used to treat diabetes. If there were long-term effects, we would probably know by now.

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u/QV79Y 5d ago

50-100 years? I think we're already there. The tipping point has passed.

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u/MoonhelmJ 4d ago

From what I've seen it has fallen. Especially if you only look at White/Asian people who have a higher regard for health.

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u/morganational 4d ago

I think it will go down. Society takes time to catch up to current knowledge.

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u/Uncle__Touchy1987 5d ago

GLP1 have killed that threat.

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u/FishfaceNZ 5d ago

On-top of all the improvements around education, healthier alternatives and new weight loss drugs, I think the increased awareness and support around mental health problems will also help curb the obesity issue.

I think addictions across the board will start to fall over the next 100 years. I've started to see it in my community.

It will take some time before it's more affordable and accessible for people to get help, but I think it's definitely something that will move the needle for obesity.

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u/TeacherFrequent 1d ago

GLP-1's are amazing, miraculous drugs that basically solve obesity and have many other positive health effects. Retatrutide should be approved sometime in the next year, and the clinical trials data has been remarkably positive - even more so than the first generation.

I understand skepticism because they sound too good to be true, but I don't know why some people hate them unless they're health and fitness influencers and hate shortcuts.

As someone pointed out below (or above) they've been widely prescribed for 20+ years - if they had serious long-term effects, we'd know it by now. And no I have no financial interest in GLP-1's.

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u/Camr0k 5d ago

I have a few thoughts.
1- patent in our country means a drug is licensed for 15 yrs then anyone can make it, thus bringing the cost down and making it more accessible. The class drugs if statins are a good example if this.
2- portion size, which ultimately is the consequence mandated by taking glp1’s is the underlying behavioral target. As socially we need to teach this and make small meals normalized and upsizing demonized to really see a cultural and behavioral shift.

It is a very interesting space to watch.

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u/PanzerWatts Moderator 4d ago

The most common current GLPs will all be available as generics within the next 10 years.

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u/ban_ana__ 4d ago

Is this conversation just being had by a bunch of GLP1 sales bots, JFC? That shit is NOT the answer, for so many reasons.

Yes, I 100% think obesity will continue to be a problem UNTIL we make healthy food as cheap and accessible as unhealthy food. That's just the bottom line.

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u/BeetleJuiceTheKidd 2d ago

So then do you think in the next 50-100 years we’ll see that happen? Again I’m aware no one knows the future but I’m interested to know what others think. Personally I have a hard time believing it will because how the US society works and the world as a whole but I’m pessimistic sometimes so idk.