r/PathOfExileBuilds • u/YameteDave • 1d ago
Build Min-maxed Accuracy Int Stacking Juggernaunt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-LwNffD0ok22
u/ww_crimson 1d ago
Any new tech compared to 3.27 or no? Solid build, loved playing mine.
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u/YameteDave 1d ago
Rolling atempest, % int on boots and dedicate 3 sockets for frostblink wintry for smoother traveling instead of whirling I guess
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u/aharonguf 1d ago
Budget ? 🙂↕️
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u/YameteDave 1d ago
The ring was bought for 3 mirrors
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u/alwayslookingout 1d ago
Wow. I didn’t know Kalandra’s ring was that expensive! /s
Is this build ever possible on a budget?
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u/r1ghtm3ow 1d ago
I guess it depends on your version of "budget" idk current prices cause I only played it in keepers. so volavaaling the claws may be painful. It definitely comes online and does anything and everything you need before mirror tier. I think once I hit 2500 int and maybe 13k es I was crushing everything.
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u/Relevant_Ad3464 1d ago
Honestly that’s way overpriced for what it is. By my calculations it should be around 1 mirror to craft it yourself.
So figure it’s worth double the average attempt cost
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u/SRTChrisS1 1d ago
Was the ring listed by a guy called lastork? I remember seeing that item on the market a while I was purchasing my own
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u/elpadreHC 1d ago
its so INSANE to me, that a character with a little ramp time but giga deeps gets phased. like, literally all the fights showcased you did nothing for longer than you did something.
phases are so trash. a 2 minute Maven but you realistically attacked for 10 seconds. i hate phases
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u/CamelSmuggler 1d ago
I hate phase bosses just as the average poe player, but to be honest the ones on PINNACLE bosses are kinda fine (besides Shaper long ass bullshit and maybe Sirus), plus there's such a tiny percentage of characters able to instaphase them that it's a first world problem.
Phases on MAP bosses is where all my rage goes to, those should definitely not exist. This includes elder guardians.
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u/dioxy186 1d ago
Same. I think campaign is fine to have phases. I even think normal variant of bosses with phases would be fine.
But map bosses and uber variants should just be updated to not have phases.
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u/Benstylez 1d ago
Why reave of refraction and not normal reave?
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u/Abragimka 1d ago
Even though this build deals primarily lightning damage, it's easier to use refraction so that you don't have to be physical and ele reflect immune
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u/Magician-Numerous 1d ago
with the reflect rework you don't need reflect immunity(unless you're running atziri)
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u/Diligent_Carrot_8410 1d ago
No 100% crit. So sad.
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u/lolfail9001 1d ago
Crit capping on this build after Keepers became too cursed since you can't get crit chance corrupt on claws anymore because 4% roll is too important.
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u/Wonderful-Trainer-42 21h ago
if he gets the double foulborn claws with 10% strength on both he might be able to cap it out from the helmet crit modifier
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u/daowan 1d ago
Yo gg build im doing the same can you give me some pointers trying to get 15% on armour rn
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u/YameteDave 1d ago
sick build, i dont have much to add tbh
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u/daowan 1d ago
I guess getting cb imune on bound by destiny and getting indominable resolve to replace magic jewels would be a goal but console supply is rough on those. Also the dbl corrupt mb as well but thats even harder,but i guess thats as good as this build gonna get,too bad i missed prime acc stacker during keepers
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u/UnicornDoomRay 1d ago
I did this is 3.26 and 3.27. Love the build, but can I assume that your AG is dying quite a bit in juiced content? I know I couldn't keep it alive on a 4 link through the really scary content. How's your experience been?
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u/astral_icecream 1d ago
Your ring is absolutely disgusting. I'm at 3850 int on mine. I don't have a reflected one.
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u/Ghepip 1d ago
Can you league start it? :D Seems like a build that "can" be?
Like, start with shaper's Touch, Cyclean Belt, the ritual boots and astramentis. foulborn hotm are only 100c for the most expensive version on day 3, and only like 5 c for the less good one all league.
And can be scaled to the max it seems.
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u/kingdweeb1 1d ago
You can start reave jugg, it just wont look anything like this until you have divs and a mature trade economy to pilfer.
Starting fresh from zero in a late league economy, this kind of build is very viable. Takes about 2 hours of scuba at level 80 and you can swap over to stacking. It will have all the pains associated with playing a new build with no guide, though, so prepare to die a lot and retool your build a few times before you hit the sweet spot of enough damage and enough defense. It wont be doing hard content before the 100d+ range, but seeing as thats 5 hrs of scuba, its fine lol
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u/lolfail9001 1d ago
Can you league start it?
No, the strong clusters are real bare minimum to even start playing it, which means it is day 2 build as the baseline. Of course if you do start playing it early the same logic Conner applied to str stacker goes: you can snipe a lot of key items for cheap while other people are still farming on their proper league starter, but even that barely applies since key items here are all hard to craft rares or gg corrupts on uniques.
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u/YameteDave 1d ago
no sorry, unlike str stacker theres no way to smoothly transition into it until you have atleast 3 12x8int+4 all attributes clusters. Also, its not worth playing without the simplex and 4% mod on claws
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u/r1ghtm3ow 1d ago
with greatmaw talisman being so easy to craft you probably don't need simplex on the initial switch.
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u/snowbanks1993 1d ago
lol i strugle hitting 2.1k str and this guy just casualy hits 4.3k int not sure what i am doing wrong
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u/lolfail9001 1d ago
Int/acc stack gets to 3k int even on low budget because it is just clicking int nodes and full stat clusters all the way.
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u/Pjatteri 1d ago
Its just blue life vs red life things. With ES, you get your % increses from int and flat from gear. So you can pretty much go all in on just int
But with str, you get flat on both gear and str, so you kinda need to sacrifice points on life (and some other stuff).
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u/SaltEngineer455 1d ago
I will never find it not funny that the best int accuracy stacker is the Jugg, and not ANY of the other 4 int classes.
Undeniable has to be nuked from orbit.
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u/_Xveno_ 1d ago
yes, lets nuke a whole ascendancy because its broken on 1 build if you invest 20 mirrors into it
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u/SaltEngineer455 1d ago
20 mirrors my ass. That node alone makes stacking on jugg so bullshit. And contrary to popular belief, you don't need infinite budget to build a stacker. Conner and many other league start it every single time.
Yea, let's give Juggs a node that fixes their accuracy, and then give infinite attack speed. There is no point in any other Ascendancy that enables that kind of infinite and loopy scalling.
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u/lolfail9001 1d ago
That node alone makes stacking on jugg so bullshit.
That node on normal builds is like 150% attack speed at absolute highest end. A whole lot but nothing to do with bullshit.
The only 2 exceptions that exist is the abyss stacking accuracy stack (which wants 10 per league rings to be good and even then is squishy af), and this build (which paid the price of getting nerfed into oblivion after Keepers and only really propped up by VVAing claws).
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u/SaltEngineer455 1d ago
Right, right. You must have missed the Zenith/HSoT builds that get enourmous amounts of accuracy from strenght stacking.
Also, 150% inc attack speed is nearly twice the amount you can get from most other sources combined. The increased attack speed mods are very few. Onslaught, 17% zealed gloves, 5% from rings, 4% per point from 12p clusters(so giga exoensive), and 4-7% from jewels. There are also a few nodes scattered here or there. It's the second rarest offensive generic stat on the entire tree, after inc damage taken.
Also, this build hasn't been "nerfed into oblivion". It still does 700M DPS and is nigh unkillable. Don't talk like it doesn't function at less than 20 mirrors. You could make this one functional for less than 1/20th of the price.
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u/lolfail9001 1d ago
You must have missed the Zenith/HSoT builds that get enourmous amounts of accuracy from strenght stacking.
150% AS figure is calibrated right against those builds that generally hit like 25000 accuracy rating (you can open Conner's last PoB and check his accuracy yourself).
Also, 150% inc attack speed is nearly twice the amount you can get from most other sources combined.
I too like to play builds without attack speed, but not really.
4% per point from 12p clusters(so giga exoensive)
Do you think hitting accuracy that high is cheap on normal builds?
Also, this build hasn't been "nerfed into oblivion".
Compared to it's past heights of having like 60% higher max hits and few times higher damage, it very much has been. Of course at it's peak in Keepers it was one of the strongest builds ever accidentally released into the wild period, making minion pact look like a toy.
You could make this one functional for less than 1/20th of the price.
I am farming for one in SSF now, i know you can make a functional one for 1/200th the price if you can tolerate some jank like not being able to insta phase ubers.
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u/SaltEngineer455 1d ago
Some jank... like not instaphasing ubers... Your standards for a build are unrealistic. I have yet to see a jack-of-all-trades that's not at least half a mirror that can phase ubers and be tanky and do a plethora of other content. Not even Elemental Hit at it's peak could do that.
Let's be realistic here.
Also, your comment about attack speed is also bad. C'mon, show me a PoB where you get loads of increased attack speed without Undeniable. And I mean NOT more attack speed, but increased.
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u/lolfail9001 1d ago
Your standards for a build are unrealistic.
What do you mean unrealistic? Dealing with uber mechanics on giga endgame build absolutely means you are in jank stage of the build.
I have yet to see a jack-of-all-trades that's not at least half a mirror
I don't play enough trade for "half a mirror" to mean anything. Hell, half a mirror build on day 2 might cost like 20 div today partially because expensive stuff depreciated and partially because half a mirror on day 2 is like 80 divines.
C'mon, show me a PoB where you get loads of increased attack speed without Undeniable.
You listed the main sources of attack speed yourself. I would add frenzies and blood rage on life builds on top. Will it be like undeniable, giving you 100%+ in 1 click? Nope. Does it mean you run out at 70% increased attack speed without it? Nope.
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u/_Xveno_ 1d ago
the same can be said by at least one node on every ascendancy, there is that one node that makes every other option useless for specific builds, what is your point?
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u/SaltEngineer455 1d ago
Right, right. Masterful Form, which is like - "oh yea, let's take trash explicits for a frenzy charge". The Golem node, which was nuked, but still performs because it makes the golems themself immortal.
Righteous Providence that enables crit on the Inquisitor.
Anything else I'm missing offensivelly? The difference tho is that Jugg has many other great defensive nodes, and the one that makes endurances be 5% instead of 4% is so goated and powerful that it puts Masterful Form to shame
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u/lizardsforreal 1d ago
and the one that makes endurances be 5% instead of 4% is so goated and powerful that it puts Masterful Form to shame
this is a strange take. this gives my jugg 10% phys and ele dam reduction. Born in the shadows is 15% all damage reduction. it's a good node for sure, but it's not masterful form levels of powerful in the least bit. masterful form just gives you a billion endurance charges for doing something you wanted to do anyways. Take a frenzy stacker and compare their max hits with and without masterful form. Then take an endurance charge stacker and do the same with unrelenting. Masterful form grants far more damage reduction.
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u/lolfail9001 1d ago
this gives my jugg 10% phys and ele dam reduction.
To use 10 endurance charges as high-ish baseline you are using, going from 40% to 50% DR is taking 20% less damage.
Born in the shadows is 15% all damage reduction.
Unless you have other sources of this stat (which are incredibly rare and almost all locked behind a ton of conditions), it is just 15% less damage.
Then take an endurance charge stacker and do the same with unrelenting.
Unrelenting on actual endurance charge stacker with 18 charges makes you take 50% less damage. Masterful form is technically more DR, but not "far more".
I agree masterful form is far stronger than unrelenting though xd
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u/SaltEngineer455 1d ago
That's a very uninformed take. Remember that endurance charges become better the more you have.
At 10 endurances you go from 40% less damage taken to 50% less damage taken, which is equivalent to a fortification debuff or an Arctic armour. (20%)
At 18 endurances you go from 72% less to 90% less. That's ~65% less damage taken.
Sure, now compare investment. Getting lots of endurance charges is easy compared to frenzies, and much cheaper. Also, Masterful Form can be emulated by Replica Badge of the Brotherhood
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u/lizardsforreal 22h ago
I was unreasonably tired last night when I made that post and definitely would have worded it differently.
Regardless, masterful form is still a much better node than untiring. The guy I responded to said untiring was better, but later retracted that statement. Masterful form allows frenzy stackers to have great defense while scaling their offense. It allows for triple charge stack builds. The opportunity cost is low for the benefits it gives you on builds that aren't trying to stack max charges.
When we're in a thread discussing a multiple mirror build, I don't really take cost effectiveness into account. Even so, frenzy stacking has never been easier. Also, replica badge is hardly an acceptable replacement for masterful form. Unless you're fortification stacking, you would much prefer to have the actual node. The best amulet for your build is worth an ascendancy point. We see people giving up flasks for another ring, which is a less valuable slot than amulet.
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u/Suitable-Respect5454 1d ago edited 1d ago
My eyes are a bit burning... Int stacking and not going for max int while making big crafts 😑 (Body armor and boots missing flat int.)
Edit : get downvoted while i only say the thruth... When you are crafting on a base how is worth 200div and you dont go for max int, because it cost 20div less to craft without the essence mod, it's just stupid...
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u/YameteDave 1d ago
For the chest the es rolls are perfect so I take it over 3 more ints. The boots has perfect tailwind effect so I wont risk it over 2 more int
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u/Suitable-Respect5454 1d ago
But you have craft them without the essence mod ? You could craft prefix cannot be changed and divine the int in other case.
And same for the boots, if it's the essence mod, you can do suffix cannot be changed and divine the int.
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u/jambes19 1d ago
Both have 55 int?
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u/Suitable-Respect5454 1d ago
You can go at 58 on armor and 58 on boots
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u/SaltEngineer455 1d ago
That 6 int will make all the difference
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u/Suitable-Respect5454 1d ago
With all the %int on the build and the fact the the build is an int stacker, yes...
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u/SaltEngineer455 1d ago
Bro, that's just PoB warrioring and nitpicking.
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u/Suitable-Respect5454 1d ago
😑 he spend over 400div to craft an armor, and he use all this money to get MAX int and a lot of ES. But he missed something and didn't go for max int, that's why i find it's a wast of money, when trying to min-max a build and dont go for the best solution when he could have...
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u/lolfail9001 1d ago
If you have spare 5 mirrors to craft triple t1 prefix chest starting with essence suffix, go ahead.
I agree boots could have been better but I also saw SebK’s boot jail yesterday.
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u/Suitable-Respect5454 1d ago
It dont cost 5 mirrors, i really think it's only 20div more. Every 10 essence, you see a T1, you can try to slam a second one and the last with ship+foulborn. I havent done the maths, but really it could be a bit more than fossils the prefix first, but not 5mirrors, not even 100div more...
For the boots, it would have cost more, maybe 150-200div more.
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u/lolfail9001 1d ago
For every 10 essence you will see t1 and trash affixes you must annul first. Then slams are like 1 in 40 each. So multiply your quest by a few thousand times. I know someone did craft a horror chest with 8% attributes for str stack this league, you can ask them the craft cost.
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u/Suitable-Respect5454 1d ago edited 1d ago
Every 10 essence you see 1T1 with 1/3 to be solo mod, 1/2 to have 2 mods and only 1/6 full prefix at the cost of the essence, i would not try to annul at 3 prefix. You are looking for 2 mods and you have 2 slams and you can even block mana for the first slam. So it's nearly 100 essence to get a clean double T1. Bit lazy to check the odds for the last slam, but should be 6-7 try. So max 600-700 essence.
Edit : and we are talking here for the full craft of the item ! He has used a lot of fossils spam to get this result with not max Int.
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u/lolfail9001 1d ago edited 1d ago
100 essence to get a clean double t1
Quick check on craft of exile tells me it is at almost 300 essences before annuls.
And last slam is like 5 times harder than you think, 30 tries with foulborn on average (44 with normal). Sure boat will speed it up by a little (about 1 in 12) but real hard part is 1 in 3 annul or craft restart every time you miss it.
Point being: 2000 dense fossils and some eldritch jail is way easier so absolutely not worth 3 int even on this build.
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u/Suitable-Respect5454 1d ago
How do you check step crafts on pathofexile ? 300 is to get double T1 directly without trying ex slam with mana crafted with solo T1. And even this is not a lot. Maybe even better 🤔
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u/Suitable-Respect5454 1d ago
The helmet is perfectly craft but not on a perfect base, and the armor is not perfectly crafted and a perfect base 😅
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u/YameteDave 1d ago edited 1d ago
Pob: https://pobb.in/Fw_s8nmHgUgY with the league nearing its end for me, I decided to perfect my favourite build with alot of currencies. Currently have done killed 4k delve bosses and some hard Valdo maps with this build. Tanky and smooth to play