r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 12d ago

Meme needing explanation What movie reference am I missing

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u/Available-Bee-5385 12d ago

Getting 0 on a multiple choice is a statistical accomplishment greater than getting 100

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u/TwillAffirmer 12d ago edited 12d ago

No, if you're guessing randomly, getting 100 is less likely than getting 0. Because for each question there's a 3/4 chance to miss it and a 1/4 chance to get the right answer.

If you aren't guessing randomly, but in fact know every question, getting 100 is no harder or easier than getting 0. Because you can get 0 by choosing to answer each question different from the answer you know is correct.

If you only know most of the questions, getting 100 is harder than getting 0, because for every question that you don't know you have a 1/4 chance of getting it right if you're aiming for 100, but a 3/4 chance of getting what you want if you're aiming for 0.

Still, with this many questions, to get exactly 0 it's almost certain the student knew most of the answers and was deliberately choosing the wrong ones.

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u/chicken2007 12d ago

Getting 0 and 100 are only equivalent of it's true/false only test.

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u/ChadsworthRothschild 12d ago

True

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u/NoBeefStew4u 12d ago

False

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u/OppressorOppressed 12d ago

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u/Ev_Broski 12d ago

sbeve

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u/LordVader1941 12d ago

Phteven

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u/AgentCirceLuna 12d ago

I don’t even know whether I don’t even know what I know I don’t know anymore

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u/Dadpool719 12d ago

Sleve McDichael

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u/Mediocre_Giraffe_542 12d ago

Fr\se?

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u/dimwalker 12d ago

for real \ second edition

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u/Pegged-by-shiyuan 12d ago

Thanks I hate it

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u/muaddib0308 12d ago

This gave me a stroke.

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u/TheOneCalledEggs 12d ago

truen't

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u/Maximus_Magni 12d ago

Falsen’t

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u/the_eleutherean 12d ago

Y’all’d’ve

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u/AdriTrap 12d ago

Y'a'in't

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u/West_Profile2186 12d ago

I say this one too often 💀

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u/DM_Voice 12d ago

could’ve’n’t’d

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u/flowery02 12d ago

Y'al'd've 'f i'd've

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u/_BrokenButterfly 12d ago

I hate the word "y'all," but I'll allow it this once.

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u/Reflexes-of-a-Tree 12d ago

B

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u/I_count_to_firetruck 12d ago

ß

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u/ThatOldG 12d ago

A C D D B

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u/Sickfuckingmonster 12d ago

A B B A C A B

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u/IncompleteTotality 12d ago

Genesis Thanks you.

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u/LuckyishTom 12d ago

Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start

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u/No-Bug9746 12d ago

BA BA start

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u/GrandpaJoeSloth 12d ago

up down up down left right left right BA BA

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u/frankthedutch 12d ago

Not A C D C?

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u/Owl_plantain 12d ago

5 3 1 8 0 0 8

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u/Fizzerolli 11d ago

ADABACC

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u/RecoverFrequent 11d ago

A B A C A B

Phil Collins starts singing

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u/Allegorist 12d ago

🅱️

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u/LowChildhood1709 12d ago

Z Y X W V U T S R Q P O N M L K J I H G F E D C B A

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u/Verditure0 11d ago

Sqrt(-1)

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u/_Leopluradon_ 12d ago

I’d like to buy a vowel?

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u/galle4 12d ago

Yesn't

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u/MuricaDaIrredeemable 12d ago

Yas

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u/TheMemePeddler 12d ago

You’re all wrong. The answer is 43. What was the question again?

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u/OM3N1R 12d ago

Nothing to add, except this comment chain made me smile

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u/Ndmndh1016 12d ago

Shoren't

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u/Natural_Design3154 12d ago

Truen’tn’t

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u/AStrandedSailor 12d ago

Oh I'm sorry, is this a five minute argument, or the full half hour?

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u/Riots42 12d ago

Potato

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u/mrbananas 12d ago

Frue..... I mean Talse

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u/Dead1Bread 12d ago

Quantum Computing:

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u/humdrumturducken 12d ago

Tralse. No wait, Frue!

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u/kengineeer 12d ago

Falsitive

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u/dcnovaman 12d ago

Truen'tsea

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u/Particular-Village91 12d ago

Truant skipped the test entirely

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u/Same-Suggestion-1936 12d ago

I've been called truant before but never truen't SIR

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u/CFUrCap 12d ago

Truant

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u/scrimnick 12d ago

None of the above

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u/DescriptionIll5227 12d ago

D) All Of The Above

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u/Thunderfoot2112 12d ago

D) All of the None

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u/DescriptionIll5227 12d ago

All for none and none for all!

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u/2Wieners_1Bun 12d ago

It’s always all of the above unless none of the above is available

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u/nplusonebikes 12d ago

What if None of the Above is available above All of the Above?

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u/2Wieners_1Bun 12d ago

Consult an astrologer

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u/Apprehensive_King914 12d ago

All of the above

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u/DiscombobulatedOwl50 12d ago

Both A and C.

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u/Druidicflow 12d ago

All of the below

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u/mattc19778 12d ago

The answer is always E) one of the above

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u/ten1219eighty5 12d ago

The limit does not exist

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u/AgentCirceLuna 12d ago

I don’t even know whether I don’t even know what I know I don’t know anymore

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u/Underhill42 12d ago

FileNotFound

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u/Golf_Fore_Ever 12d ago

Syntax Error

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u/Several_Razzmatazz51 12d ago

XOR (for the nerds out there)

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u/InformalRent2571 12d ago

Perhaps, depending on the context and circumstances.

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u/MimikyuAll 12d ago

Who's to say

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u/Vellc 12d ago

Battlestar Galactica

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u/soldelaplaya 12d ago

ChadsworthRothschild, we were just describing the test.

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u/JThumbs29 12d ago

What is true?

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u/Imaginary-Welder-462 12d ago

Can anyone really say what is "true"?

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u/2Wieners_1Bun 12d ago

I can. The answer to your question is no

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u/Stacato_ 12d ago

You nailed the 50/50

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u/SnugglyCoderGuy 12d ago

Only if you are choosing answers randomly.

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u/ifyoulovesatan 12d ago

They're still equivalent in the sense that one can only purposefully get 0% or 100% if they know all the answers.

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u/Hammerofsuperiority 12d ago

There's a 0.000095% chance of getting all the answers right/wrong at random in a 20 true/false question test.

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u/Champshire 11d ago

YOU WOULD THINK, IN A GAME, WHERE THERE ARE ONLY TWO POSSIBLE CORRECT CHOICES, THAT ONE WOULD STUMBLE INTO THE RIGHT ANSWER EVERY SO OFTEN, WOULDN'T YOU? IN FACT, THE PROBABILITY OF NEVER GUESSING RIGHT IN THE FULL GAME IS A STATISTICAL WONDER! AND YET, HERE WE ARE!

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u/DeepResonance 11d ago

I CANNOT WIN!

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u/OneStrangePotato 11d ago

That is correct Brennan, you cannot win the game.

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u/__ydev__ 12d ago

No, they're completely equal, and that's the point.

If you're unprepared for a test, you will basically never get 0 out of 100 (when the questions are binary)

Assuming you answer randomly, the probability of getting 0 just as getting 100 is 1 out of 2^100, which realistically is basically 0. You are expected to score around 50% (and that would kind of be the lowest point you can get, i.e., your answers are not predictive at all of the true answers)

The only realistic way to score 0 in a binary exam is by knowing the correct answers and deliberately marking the incorrect ones. Therefore the student knows just as much as the one who marks all the correct answers and gets 100; they're indistinguishable.

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u/SnugglyCoderGuy 12d ago

The point I'm arguing against is the true/false part. If you know the answers you can choose to get whatever grade you want regardless of the test design.

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u/derpadurp3 11d ago

It's never truly random

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u/edsobo 12d ago

In the case where you know all the answers, getting a 100 or a 0 are equivalent because knowing the answers reduces the set of values to correct and incorrect.

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u/Mountain-Scene770 12d ago

They are in a T/F scenario. This looks like a abcd multiple choice test. Which means that you have 3 incorrect answers and 1 correct. Which means it’s easier to reach 0 than 100. Now, I can tell you from experience that blind guessing is still less likely than he knew the answers and got them all wrong on purpose, because you’re still likely to guess correctly about 25% of the time.

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u/chicken2007 12d ago

No. Because there isn't any independent proof that a person knows all the answers. That determination on what is known relies in the very biased word of the person.

A overly confident idiot and liar could guess poorly, get them all wrong and then claim that they did it on purpose. Would you believe that they did it intentionally?

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u/Ghostley92 12d ago

But if you know every question and are NOT guessing randomly, it is not.

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u/-widget- 12d ago

If you know the answer to every question the difficulty of getting a zero is equivalent to getting a 100. So it's still not a more difficult accomplishment to get a 0.

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u/Ghostley92 12d ago

I wouldn’t say they absolutely know each answer. Getting 0 is easier than getting 100, but getting 0 seems deliberate.

My point was that it is not equivalent to a true/false test and citing the previous comment

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u/Rymanbc 12d ago

To be fair, getting 100 also seems deliberate.

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u/Ghostley92 12d ago

Well isn’t that the prescribed objective of the test?

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u/SolidestCereal 12d ago

Will this be on the test?

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u/Thenewbie7 12d ago

But it's a "desirable outcome". Someone that wants to fail while knowing most of the answers is something that a teacher might want to understand

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u/Evening-Nature-5241 12d ago

It's highly unlikely, but not impossible. Just because someone got 0 could indicate they did it on purpose, but also, they might just have been phenomenally unlucky with all their guesses.

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u/Available-Bee-5385 12d ago

It was never about difficulty

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u/TheBSQ 12d ago

The picture is not of a true / false test, so in the context of this post, it’s a bit of a tangent. 

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u/Timsmomshardsalami 12d ago

Which this isnt

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u/The-Ghostcat 7d ago

All of the above

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u/Complex-Actuator6471 12d ago

I honestly didn't know this was a true/false test, I "sarcastically apologize" for not studying XD I guess summer school it is

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u/oldRedF0x 12d ago

!=false

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u/RollTide16-18 12d ago

If you're guessing at random its statistically incredibly unlikely to get a 0 or 100, unless the multiple choice has like 10+ answers then a 0 becomes more likely.

A 0 on a standard 4-choice or 5-choice test would mean the test taker either didn't try, or intentionally didn't pick some correct answers at minimum.

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u/achillesfist 12d ago

I once got a 0 on a 20 question true/false quiz in french class. I remember it as one of my proudest accomplishments

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u/Rendeli 12d ago

Maybe this was a true or false test..

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u/bryan3737 12d ago

No that’s not the only scenario. They’re equivalent if the amount of correct answers is equal to the amount of wrong answers

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u/THE_AWESOM-O_4000 12d ago

I had a true/false exam once where answering a question wrong would give you negative points. I think it was something like correct answers = 2 points, no answer = 0 points, and wrong answers = -1 point.

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u/trader_jazz 12d ago

Simply put getting 100 is not a chance. But getting 0 is also not a chance. A kid that can get 0 can actually get 100, chose to get a 0.

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u/WokeWook69420 12d ago

You would think, in a game where there are only two possible correct choices, one would STUMBLE INTO THE CORRECT ANSWER every so often, wouldn't you? In fact, the probability of never guessing right in the full game is a STATISTICAL WONDER, and yet here we aarrreeeee

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u/CheesebuggaNo1 12d ago

No its not its true/false/false/false

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u/Initial_Apprehensive 12d ago

Just take the test and you will donl fine

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u/ubzrvnT 12d ago

True or False: A, B, C or D?

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u/BlackKingHFC 12d ago

This is most certainly untrue. There are multiple choice tests that exist with hyper specific answers. Like there are choices A through H and A through D are all part of the answer and E through H are various combinations of the answers with only 1 choice that is explicitly wrong and 1 that is completely right. Getting the exact wrong answers every time and getting the exact right answer every time is only achievable with the actual knowledge of the subject matter.

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u/nonchip 12d ago

what are options C and D in a true/false only test? ;)

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u/Equivalent_Bunch_187 12d ago

That’s only true if you are guessing at random. The odds change based on how many questions you absolutely know the correct answer for.

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u/chicken2007 12d ago

Sure. Knowledge, in the case of tests, change the random probabilities. Which is why, on most tests taken by students, the mode isn't either 0 or 100.

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u/HarveysBackupAccount 12d ago

This would be kind of an N choose K problem, right? Or am I misremembering what that is?

There's only 1 way to get a perfect score but there are multiple ways to get a 0 score. But I'm not good enough at statistics to figure it out

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u/Vrn-722 12d ago

which is what the case was in the movie

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u/MaxFatality 12d ago

We used to have a teacher tell us if we missed every question in a T/F test he'd give it a 200%. Noone got it and I think only a couple attempts were made over the whole year.

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u/-oceanMC- 12d ago

It says multiple choice top left

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u/chicken2007 12d ago

Yes it does. But true/false is still a type of choosing from multiple choice options.

I'm also not sure why you thought this was comment worthy, some my statement was expanding on the discussion of statistics.

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u/plagued00 12d ago

The problem with that movie is the assumption of guessing randomly. If you actually tried and just every answer wrong, you'd still be an idiot, not a genius.

It is, however, unlikely that someone at a gifted school would get a 0 on a true false test.

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u/DifficultDepth7085 12d ago

technically you could still leave no answer and get it wrong.

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u/Buffinator360 12d ago

It was a true/false test. That's why they got a zero

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u/Tr1LL_B1LL 11d ago

ABBA CA DABBA

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u/Radiant-Way-8889 11d ago

Booo...lean

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