r/PeterExplainsTheJoke • u/New-Objective7803 • 16h ago
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u/housevil 16h ago
Cooper trained for years with master conductor Yannick Nézet-Séguin to learn how to authentically conduct live orchestras for the film. This included a famous, highly praised live-conducted sequence of Mahler at Ely Cathedral. Someone thought the training was a waste of time.
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u/Vaff_Superstar 15h ago
Did he also practice with that orchestra before shooting? I mean, I kind of feel like it doesn’t work if he wasn’t actually conducting the orchestra before they played it live.
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u/DR-SNICKEL 15h ago
I think this is the funny part, Music students get trained to actually compose and orchestrate peices in under a year. Dude could have ACTUALLY become a conducter, yet spending all that time trying to mimic a conductor ironically makes it seem less realistic
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u/STUFF416 5h ago
This is dramatically underselling the road to being a decent conductor. That does take years and years of training and practice with each step demanding all the steps that came before and led to the next.
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u/burritopup 16h ago
I feel he got to experience something most people wouldn't think twice about and it was his decision to probably go on a long side quest he probably enjoyed and got to be a small part in a film just because of it. Why not. A lot of effort for something he probably enjoyed doesn't seem that it was any less of it for him.
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u/CuntyBallsJohnson 16h ago
That's fair but his conducting is shit and it's valid to point that out
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u/JMoherPerc 16h ago
He’s mimicking the bombastic emotive qualities of Leonard Bernstein without mimicking his precision, his depth of knowledge, or his subtle passion.
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u/Sbstnbd 10h ago
So he's doing exactly what an actor should be doing and is able to do after such a short time
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u/Downtown-Table-4872 4h ago
I don't agree.
As a musician and classical music lover who's played in symphony orchestras, that scene sure captured something, but it wasn't Bernstein.
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u/Sbstnbd 4h ago
That may be, but in the end the film is not only for the 0,0001% of the population that plays in an orchestra, or the even fewer people that actually conduct.
Would you rather a real conductor would star in the movie and all of it is shit except this one scene or the other way around?
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u/CuntyBallsJohnson 4h ago
Idk if I spent 6 years learning how to copy someone for a 30 second scene it would be pretty easy to pull off
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u/burritopup 16h ago
That actor flair drama always makes it unwatchable to the knowledgeable. Damn fair! I wouldn't know shit about conducting
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u/Adi_San 15h ago
Yeah, that’s always the case. You can have the most well-executed, meticulously researched, realistic script imaginable, and the people who actually do that shit in real life will still struggle to suspend their disbelief.
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u/Sbstnbd 7h ago
Idk, I've been talking all my live, yet I never find it unfathomable how people talk in movies, despite no person on the planet talking like this
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u/SwordfishOfDamocles 7h ago
Our brains allow for stuff like that because it's required for story telling/context. From childhood the first stories we hear have narration which tells our brain to ignore the oddities of the dialogue. There are some famous writers who have unique styles that people do find immersion breaking like Kevin Smith, Quentin Tarantino, or Diablo Cody.
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u/Teaching-Initial 1h ago
This is a real thing. I'm a software developer. Seeing anything computer related or hacking in a bothers me of I don't turn off my brain for those bits. 24 was the worst, because anytime they had an issue they just opened another socket. My cop friends can only watch Southland. No one else can get it right.
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u/KHAOSCRUSADER 10h ago
I’m reminded of a guy who kept posting pictures of himself posing as a dead body until he was hired to play a dead body.
Eventually his dream was realized and a show (I want to say CSI) had a scene where he was a cadaver at the morgue.
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u/StallionSurprise 11h ago edited 11h ago
Nah, he was so hungry for that academy award, I cant imagine he felt this was a good use of his time when he didn’t actually win anything. He was mocked mercilessly for basically every aspect of this performance.
I mean, the guy came back to NYC and started making roast beef sandwiches for a time after this movie came out…it didnt really help his career.
Also, a small part in the movie? He directed it as well…have you seen the movie
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u/lewger 15h ago
Dude got 3 Oscar noms for this. Not exactly a waste of time.
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u/See_i_did 13h ago
What is this? I’m about 10 comments deep and still no idea what film this is.
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u/macguini 16h ago
I didn't even recognize him. He looks like Steve Martin. I knew he had range but damn. Amazing actor.
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u/tomaesop 16h ago
I think he wears a prosthetic nose for this film, which caused some controversy.
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u/Billyshakes1597 16h ago
I love when r/PeterExplainsTheJoke is nothing more than reading comprehension
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u/innovatedname 7h ago
Except reading comprehension wouldn't have filled you in on the background information that Bradley Cooper spent several years doing unnecessary training for conducting as part of method acting.
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u/Meritania 14h ago
Reading doesn’t get you karma though.
Whereas getting a meme fresh off the gram or the X and saying ‘lol wut?’ is easy money.
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u/Rummelboxer89 15h ago
He also directed and stared this highly appraised movie, that got tons and tons of nominations. He stepped in after Scorsesee and Spielberg did not have the time and they produced the film he directed. Yeah. Total waste of time
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u/Kindly-Land-8450 15h ago
It’s a movie. It’s a representation of and a dramatisation of a thing. He is an actor playing a person who was a master. Movies aren’t meant to be 100% accurate portrayals of any given subject. Movies convey ideas and expose the audience to ideas and experiences and we suspend disbelief a lot of the time because the story and the acting is compelling.
My dad was a lawyer and he tried cases in court. He loved courtroom dramas even though 95% of what happens in most court scenes is just pure cinema. But he didn’t care they are fun escapism because the reality of a typical courtroom is way less exciting.
Tom Cruise IS a pilot who has flown fighter jets. In Maverick he sprinkles in lingo and procedural things that ARE real things but they are sprinkled onto a whole lot of action movie nonsense. But who cares it was fun.
I don’t know when we got so obsessed with 100% accurate portrayals but it’s tedious. I blame Tom Hanks.
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u/New-Objective7803 16h ago
Bradley cooper trained to be a conductor for 6 years as like a method acting thing?
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u/hotchrisbfries 16h ago
First Google Result: Bradley Cooper Spent Six Years Learning How to Conduct for 'Maestro'
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