r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 8h ago

Meme needing explanation Petah?

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u/Grouchy_Theme1461 7h ago

bruh u gotta explain it

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u/nebileyim_ben 7h ago

its deflation, prices keep falling over time.

japan experienced long periods of deflation which is hurt spending and as a result affected economic growth.

its super hard to fix that bcs of liquidity trap.

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u/Terpcheeserosin 7h ago

Why does things costing less make people buy less?

If wages stay the same, shouldnt people just buy the dip?

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u/CopiVT 7h ago

Deflation means that every single day your money is worth more, so for example
(Effectively)
Day 1: Eggs cost $12
Day 3: Eggs cost $10
Day 5: Eggs cost $8
So on and so forth, but for everything.
What happens is people start only buying what’s necessary immediately, because in a few days things will be even cheaper. It’s a constant spiral that’s really difficult to stop, because you either have to take a nuclear option and implement price floors, or figure out how to incentivize people to actually spend their money.

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u/rickterpbel 7h ago

Eggs are a bad example because people always need to eat. Think cars. Why buy a car today when it will cost less tomorrow? Repeat endlessly.

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u/coilboi 6h ago

Computers and smartphones would drop their prices (per computational power) at a ridiculously high rate and it lasted for decades. I don't think it reduced the demand for them, quite the contrary: people would constantly abandon their electronics in order to buy better and newer models, just because they'd become more affordable every year.

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u/Zealousideal_Act_316 6h ago

Computers dropped prices not because of deflation, they cost less because parts became optimised and production became cheaper, but eveyrhting else was increasing in price due to inflation.

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u/BreadfruitExciting39 6h ago

I'm wondering if consumer spending is a bad way to look at this (even if it's true as a whole).  But it makes more sense if you look at what the wealthy will do with investments - why invest in something today if you think it's going to be valued at less tomorrow?  

Not only would you be literally losing money as the value of your investment drops, but you'd be able to buy more for the same price if you wait it out.  So investments dry up and companies start running out of money and new companies can't start, etc.  And the dragons sit on their piles of gold while the rest of us starve.

Maybe?  I don't really understand it all either.

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u/Arthur_Edens 5h ago

This isn't a hypothetical, we've had real world examples of deflationary spirals. It happened in the Great Depression from 1930-1933, again in 2009. You can go back and look at any year where inflation went negative and see "things were pretty horrible that year."

More than that, if you look at the years where inflation is causing significant problems, it's usually 8%+. If you look at the years where deflation is a problem, it might only be -1-2%.

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u/Zealousideal_Act_316 6h ago

Car is a big investment, better one is pack of chips, or shoes. Something that is small, but compounds across the economy by the millions.

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u/Quirky_Gate_4516 1h ago

Car is the perfect example though. Because to buy a car most people need a loan.

What happens to a loan during deflation? Your debt grows rapidly.

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u/shidderbean 2h ago

Maybe a bit of correction to our overconsumptive habits is called for. So many people trade in 1-2 year old cars just because they want the shiny new one. Maybe that needs to slow down.