is this a normal amount of Microsoft Visual

[u/Prestigious_Let_7184]

[u/istrebitjel]

Each piece of software is built using a specific version of Visual Studio (2005, 2008, 2010, 2012, 2013, etc.) and architecture (x86, x64) and requires its exact matching run-time library to function. What a cluster-fuck.

[u/ilyaa07 → u/istrebitjel]

Visual studio itself is a cluster fuck too. Honestly what can microsoft not completely fuck up.

[u/istrebitjel → u/ilyaa07]

Okay, Visual Studio Code has been working pretty well for me in recent times and power toys - those are the two that I wouldn't call completely fucked up 🤣

[u/SauretEh → u/istrebitjel]

Powertoys Run is so annoying because it shows that Microsoft absolutely could make the start menu search work if they wanted to.

[u/ilyaa07 → u/SauretEh]

Pressing alt+space is faster for me than opening the start menu honestly. Even here the search is kinda mid, I just use it to launch programs. Actually good search would be something like Everything.

[u/SubstantialAgency914 → u/ilyaa07]

I would like to know more.

[u/Ripirius → u/SubstantialAgency914]

Voidtools - Everything. Better search tool for Windows.

[u/S4N7R0 → u/SubstantialAgency914]

Powertoys is a set of tools built for windows by the community, including the powertoys run as mentioned above which is absolutely GOATED. its basically like a command palette for windows, you can use it as a quick calculator, searching apps, hexadecimal/binary converter.
Everything by voidtools searches files on your pc. REALLY FUCKING FAST. especially v1.5 holy shit. it's a must have imo.

[u/ilyaa07 → u/istrebitjel]

VSC is fine when it stops trying to autocomplete everything for you, I was talking about VS proper. Powertoys is fucking amazing, which makes one question why it isn't in Windows by default.

[u/istrebitjel → u/ilyaa07]

I know I remember the original VS 🤢

[u/TheOfficialMayor → u/istrebitjel]

Just bring back VC++ 6 and VB6 with Inheritance. Job done. Nothing more is needed.

[u/CoolDode22 → u/TheOfficialMayor]

Oh and get rid of Edge Webview. No one wants their "apps" to be a crappy internet browser.

[u/TheOfficialMayor → u/CoolDode22]

Software dev profession is totally moronic these days. Let alone the recent ai coding phenomenon.

Writing desktop apps in JavaScript with edge webview and electron. Using JavaScript for server side code on a website. Using JavaScript as the language for your static site generator (a good idea just a shitty way to do it).

Now throw in ai...

[u/MisterHole123 → u/TheOfficialMayor]

Honestly I dropped. Ms dev tools a long time ago and use open-source stuff now. I had enough of their bloated dev environments

[u/space_fly → u/istrebitjel]

VSCode and VS are different things

[u/istrebitjel → u/space_fly]

Yes, everybody knows.

[u/Unfair_Rub_9674 → u/istrebitjel]

That’s the power of open source, the moment you introduce shit others wipe that for you promptly

[u/Yung-Jev]

You want all of them to be installed so you wont have any problems in the future with any software that require them, and i still dont understand why they are not build into windows 11 already, but everything else are.

[u/Thatredfox78 → u/Yung-Jev]

True if we can keep legacy drivers for floppy drives or modems or even mini-disk players. We could probably do the same or similar thing with legacy frameworks and distributables

Edit: also keeping legacy stuff alive is pretty important

[u/TheVojta → u/Yung-Jev]

And then you'd have people crying about "useless bloatware".

[u/Yung-Jev → u/TheVojta]

Glad we dont have any useless bloatware in windows nowadays bro

[u/Toe500 → u/TheVojta]

I don't believe Microsoft is bloating with legacy drivers or frameworks for supporting older apps

Google and Microsoft want you to stop using your old devices and buy new devices that is locked down in the name of privacy and security

[u/iceyukisnow → u/Toe500]

I don't believe Microsoft is bloating with legacy drivers or frameworks for supporting older apps

and yet, they do, out of all existing OS, windows still has the best backwards compatibility

[u/Toe500 → u/iceyukisnow]

They had better but now not so much

[u/khaledjal → u/TheVojta]

those microsoft visuals are more important than "microsoft to do" or "people"

[u/T555s → u/TheVojta]

Just remove copilot and one of the two shitty browsers and we should have all the space for legacy drivers we need.

[u/SunbleachedAngel → u/Yung-Jev]

need disk space for that copilot and recall

[u/TruffleYT → u/Yung-Jev]

They did that in 9x

And it caused things to break

[u/Objective-Pizza2180 → u/Yung-Jev]

Can they have backwards compatibility

[u/LeGoodBeef → u/Yung-Jev]

then everyone will whine that windows introduced even more bloat. lose-lose situation.

[u/harrisrainy]

Thinking of deleting everything of that once, clear all games and kept fresh. Need to note which C++ is installing, and be aware.

[u/ElmStreetVictim]

I always thought these things were backwards compatible. Guess not

[u/darko_mrtvak → u/ElmStreetVictim]

youd think a trillion dollar company would find a way to make that happen but noooo more aislop for you buddy

[u/Skywinds12]

yes if you play a lot of older games

[u/MCplayer590]

Yes, because Microsoft is the worst

[u/Dorkits]

Unfortunately yes. If one software is pain I'm the ass for the end user, just think about the poor programmer (me) who needs to deal with the bullshit from Microsoft sometimes...

[u/JoyconDrift_69]

I really wish Microsoft finds a way to clean this up. Just gets annoyingly cluttered real quick.

Like half the time I see them like this I'm half tempted to uninstall them, but I know better ofc

[u/SonnyKlinger]

Nope, not normal. You're still missing 2015, 2017, 2019 and 2022.

[u/essteeexetwo]

The Visual C++ Redistributable team got a new manager in 2013 and they were an agile asshole.

[u/CozyDazzle4u]

If you game, you need all of em.

[u/ateoz]

Unfortunately yes. 

[u/my_dearest_isabella]

Ah yes, peak Piracy content.

[u/okjijenAbi]

yes. unfortunately so.

[u/ChefCurryYumYum]

It can be.

[u/calistomusicPROducer]

Nah, honestly you need more /s

[u/MisterHole123]

Sadly yes and can't believe Ms let it get this bad

[u/scene_missing]

You can safely delete the older versions of ones where you have a duplicate year and architecture

[u/ReadyAssociation3129]

Did you install abbodi1406's vcredist pack?

[u/Prestigious_Let_7184 → u/ReadyAssociation3129]

i may have yes

[u/manolid]

Here's mine.

[u/Imnotanad]

I'm sure you have installed an "all in one" pack of VCREDIST.

[u/AdBrave2400]

WAMP needs a bunch of those so I'd say no

[u/catgirl5533]

This is by far the thing that turns me off from ever switching back to Windows, you have to spend so much disk space and time hunting down all these runtime bullshits every time you want to run anything

[u/robinempire]

I've also got a buch of these insects.

[u/tamal4444]

yup.

[u/HidenTsubameGaeshi]

Ah, shit, this post is an eye opener for me. Just a week ago I've asked myself the same question and thought "Well, surely they're backwards compatible, right?" and just deleted everything except v14 x64 and v14 x86. I wonder how nothing is broken yet lmao

Edit: also deleted desktop runtimes except the latest one

[u/Particular-Studio119]

No. Usually those won't fit on a single page.

[u/TalonS125]

looks familiar to me (yes)

[u/Lisanicolas365]

mfs will do this instead of just using linux

[u/Adventurous-Hunter98 → u/Lisanicolas365]

doesnt proton also installs some of these if game needs it ?

[u/Green_Ad5186 → u/Adventurous-Hunter98]

yes it does. making the comment above illogical

[u/Green_Ad5186 → u/Lisanicolas365]

you know faugus launcher which is on linux. installs all of that to run windows games anyway right?

they don't magically ignore visual c++ and get windows games at once

[u/Andrikos21 → u/Lisanicolas365]

Why would i use linux if i want things to just work?

[u/JoyconDrift_69 → u/Andrikos21]

Many use the "I want things to just work" argument as a reason to switch tbf

[u/Prestigious_Let_7184 → u/Lisanicolas365]

if only i knew