r/PoursTea Timendi Causa Est Nescire 2d ago

PoliticalTea 🗳️ A lot of work needs to be (un)done...

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u/Southern_Pop_9871 2d ago

A lot of what he’s done will never be repaired

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u/brogflender 2d ago

Yeah. We have only fixed fractions of what Bush Bush, Reagan, and Nixon did. 

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u/dalziel86 2d ago

Trump is one of the things Nixon and successors did. Without fixing the system it’s just gonna keep happening.

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u/mensrea 2d ago

This is when you can actually blame Obama for. His go-along to get along approach is what set up the lawlessness that we’re now seeing. Whether you want to have a beer with Bush or not, war crimes should’ve been addressed. Telecos should not have been give immunity for their Patriot Act shenanigans. 

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u/threeclaws 2d ago

Obama also committed war crimes so that would be a bit hypocritical.

He should have slammed through single payer, and he should have been more aggressive with getting older justices off the court so he could replace them.

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u/Amir-Iran 2d ago

So bad that Reagan finished USSR, You are never going to forgive him for that

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u/brogflender 2d ago

The USSR finished the USSR. But thanks for the political golden oldie unc. 

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u/happycat47 2d ago

Biden expanded on what Trump did. Obama expanded on what Bush did. Clinton expanded on what Reagan did.

Jimmy Carter was decent.

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u/Due-Beginning1074 2d ago

Exactly - they're in the same club, one just buys you dinner before fucking you in the ass.

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u/Shigglyboo 2d ago

Yeah a whole generation of scientists have learned they could face prosecution for doing their jobs.

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u/Pussy4LunchDick4Dins 2d ago

And doctors 

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u/Senior-Act7294 2d ago

A lot of scientists have emigrated.

China is really welcoming to refugees fleeing America, ironically.

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u/MobileJob1521 2d ago

Well, when you face persecution at home you naturally look to other nations and the freedoms they offer that you are being denied…

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u/MC_White_Thunder 2d ago

That's why they're leaving the country. I find it unlikely they'll come back.

Like how Germany's brightest fled nazi Germany before WW2.

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u/Parking_Locksmith489 2d ago

All the safeguards have failed. Congress, media, Constitution, Scotus. In just a few months.

So for former allies, this means one thing: not a trustable partner. Alliances mean nothing, trade agreements mean nothing. Trade poison.

How could any country trust you short to medium term?

We would need to see prosecutions, imprisonments, justice system reforms. There is no appeasement with autoritarian caricatural dumb dictatorship enablers.

We will work around you and trade without you.

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u/breaducate 1d ago

Crazy that anyone thinks "reconnecting with our allies" is going to happen in a term.

Even if they were too stupid to see the flailing of a dying empire why would the leaders of other nations think there's no way another demagogue is going to emerge within a decade?

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u/Mmm_lemon_cakes 2d ago

Yeah, I’m not sure the east wing is coming back. Best case scenario the build their underground shit then just put a lawn over it. But we’d have to get a new east wing funded first.

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u/Southern_Pop_9871 2d ago

To be honest, once he’s gone the entire Whitehouse should be bulldozed and rebuilt, the stench of him and his presidency will never be cleansed from the current Whitehouse

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u/Mmm_lemon_cakes 2d ago

Sadly yes. The Oval Office reeks of McDonald’s and poop. Does the Oval Office have a bathroom attached? I wonder if they had to update the facilities to make it easier to change his diapers.

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u/MavisBeacons_Sextape 2d ago

That’ll be the easiest fix of all the ruin he’ll leave in his wake.

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u/KingArthas94 2d ago

Good, there must be consequences

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u/Acceptable-Grade-116 2d ago edited 2d ago

Very true. Americans don't realize that the damage that 47 did is generational. They think that things will return to normal once he's gone. But, no dice.

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u/PorousClay 1d ago

Like the reputation of the US to the rest of the world. The damage is beyond policy and beyond physical things.

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u/thewalruscandyman 2d ago

Don't give up so easily.

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u/ObnoxiousAlbatross 2d ago

It is not giving up to acknowledge the depth of the damage that has been done.

Those lives aren't undead or unabused once we get a Dem presidency. Those people and their families are forever scarred and changed. There are programs that will never come back because the window to start them is past; the number of things that need to align for any given program to get approval and kick off is staggering.

There are things that just won't get repaired.

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u/thewalruscandyman 2d ago

The lost lives I unfortunately have to agree. But the programs? Fuck time windows. They can start anything up they want, given the powers the court now allows a president. To approval I say pffffft. Let's play by their rules.

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u/Continental__Drifter 2d ago

Trust, once broken, doesn't easily come back.

For some things so extreme, broken trust can never be regained.

You ain't coming back from this.

The rest of the world hates you, rightfully, and doesn't trust you.
We're building the rest of the world economy to bypass you.
Your treaties are meaningless, your word is meaningless.

Your military murders schoolchildren and both your political parties support a genocide, and all your servile populace does is whine about gas prices.

You ain't coming back from this, chief.
Not for generations.

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u/ObnoxiousAlbatross 2d ago edited 2d ago

You have no idea what it's like to get a project of these magnitudes off the ground. Your expectations are simply not aligned with reality.

edit: lol accused of being maga and blocked because we don't comprehend the level of damage done by the fascists currently in power. Christ almighty, the fregility.

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u/thewalruscandyman 2d ago

Okay, now I'm convinced you're just a magat trying to talk others out of even trying. So sit and spin, magat boi.