r/PoursTea Timendi Causa Est Nescire 2d ago

PoliticalTea 🗳️ A lot of work needs to be (un)done...

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u/Confident-Stand5453 2d ago

You are missing the part where each collapse is worse than the previous one, moving the country closer and closer to a point where it cant actually be put on the right path anymore.

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u/JustFun4Uss 2d ago

I have a feeling we have already fell off that edge, and the only way forward is to rebuild from scratch. This administration has wiped their ass' with the constitution so much its utterly destroyed at this point. America has fallen and we are fighting for what comes next. Anything less is just more of a slow death spiral.

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u/Confident-Stand5453 2d ago

With the interest alone on the national debt having crossed the trillion dollar mark, you may very well be right. Its hard to see how government deficits could be reduced so much that the debt starts going down, even just stay at current levels.

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u/dallas121469 2d ago

First of all cut military spending in half then, raise taxes on the wealthy and corporations and go from there. Nobody is going to invade us. We are energy independent, food independent and still the wealthiest country in the world

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u/BamberGasgroin 2d ago edited 2d ago

The US national debt is $40 Trillion mate, not $1 Trillion.

(...it was $1 Trillion 45 years ago.)

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u/VTOLfreak 2d ago

He is talking about the interest on the debt. Not the total debt. That 1 trillion number should frighten you more than the 40 trillion. It means you have to cough up 1 trillion every year, just to keep standing still and not sink deeper into the swamp.

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u/BamberGasgroin 2d ago

Thanks man. (That's what I get for skimming through the comments. 🫤)

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u/JoeHio 1d ago

At a time where inflation is still rising, which is the catch 22. Raising interest rates will fight the inflation but also makes the debt rise like a rocket. Meanwhile lowering interest rates to "grow out of the debt" will give us inflation like post WW1 Germany.

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u/Tevihn 2d ago

I have a feeling we have already fell off that edge

Basically, yes. Though we are currently free falling, we haven't hit bottom yet.

Here is a comment I posted the other day about this topic

One more for good measure

TLDR: There is no way to fix this, Democratically speaking. The only thing that matters now is replacing the Capital Class, removing Capitalism in it's entirety, focusing on how to mitigate the damage from the worst parts of the coming Collapse, and how we will rebuild, globally, after.

We've been screaming from the rooftops about all of this for 40+ years. But as always, we've been too right, too early.

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u/Embarrassed_Use6918 2d ago

yeah the only solution is getting rid of capitalism which historically has worked very well for the people who got rid of it

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u/Opposite_of_a_Cynic 2d ago

Feudalism worked for about a thousand years until it didn't anymore. Where does this idea that nothing can ever be improved come from I wonder?

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u/Confident-Stand5453 2d ago

Define "worked". It certainly worked very well for the minority at the top.

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u/Moldblossom 2d ago

for the minority at the top

hmmm....

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u/Strange_Dust7128 1d ago

Nobody is going to get rid of capitalism because almost every country implements some degree of private market ownership. The real answer is regulation. That we won’t ever see in the States because regulation is complex and we’re simpletons.

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u/maceo107 2d ago

Remember when he said you never had to vote again? He wasn't kidding!

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u/Sufficient_Topic1589 1d ago

You’re already pretty close to a banana republic

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u/tepidlymundane 2d ago

moving the country closer and closer to a point where it cant actually be put on the right path anymore.

This is definitely the goal. They want to burn the ships back to the democratic, pluralistic society America has been stupendously successful with. The creeps fully invested in nativist techno-feudalism think this is the edge of some new glorious dawn, instead of using the nation to destoy the nation.

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u/janiskr 2d ago

You hope it is not reached?

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u/Atheist-Gods 2d ago

I feel like we reached that point a year and a half ago.

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u/elebentychimkin 1d ago

That would be a series of parabolas with an overall downward average slope. If anyone feels like graphing it.