r/PoursTea Oh the Human-a-TEA 1d ago

Not My Cup Of Tea❗️ At least 4,200 people are still missing as well

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u/S-Clair 1d ago

It's easy to understand, you just need to ask yourself how many billionaires died in the flood?

We have hundreds of years of human history to tell us all that the wealthy will put up with any amount of death and disaster as long as they are not personally impacted.

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u/LowlySlayer 23h ago

Just to be clear, if 100 billionaires died in the flood the remaining billionaires would keep doing what they're doing lol.

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u/Narradisall 1d ago

Yup.

People keep acting surprised but provided billionaires aren’t directly affected. They do not give a single care how many poor people die.

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u/McCalvie 21h ago

I still don’t understand the endgame. I understand it’s about control, but who pads the pockets when we’re all dead?

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u/dr_bringus 21h ago

there is no real endgame. capitalist society eventually collapses due to these very contradictions you've mentioned, but not before the working class gets the worst of it

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u/Viking4269 21h ago

There is no endgame. It is like a mindless virus or bacteria, it just keeps consuming until the host is dead.

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u/PNW20v 20h ago

Cancer. Its a cancer.

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u/BonusPlantInfinity 19h ago

Who among us wants to give up beef? Recreational travel? Gas guzzling? Not a one.

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u/Annonnymee 15h ago

Already gave up 2 out of 3, and haven't traveled since 2019. Does that count?

But I agree, people on the whole aren't willing to give up most things that would make a difference.

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u/0202_tihssitidder 16h ago

The Hunger Games. That's the End Game (in the USA).

They want around 4 Billion total global population. We have over 8 Billion today.

They do not care about the coming food shortages. They have warehouses. They can afford 100x groceries.

This is all about Class. They will emerge and take whatever is left.

The only way to "win" is not to play. We all know where that is from. Today, not tomorrow, "we" must stop consuming. Boycotts. Reduce even more. Refuse to buy. And make it stick.

Voting? The evil Republicans are quickly moving to make that illegal. They only allow voting if it does nothing. Establishment Dems (Controlled Opposition) is working with them.

Boycotts scare them. Luigi scares them. Progressives scare them.

By the way...China is doing fine. Finland and Norway and Sweden and Europe are all doing fine.

The USA is not going to make it. Not even close.

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u/Ch3353man 19h ago

I was just talking to my wife about this the other day about all of the food recalls. Like who is going to buy your poisoned food when you've killed all of your customers due to negligence. Short term gains to tank any sort of goodwill your company had...

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u/Wonderful-Fox-323 18h ago

They don't need this many of us. Kill the masses, enslave the few who are left. An AI controlled drone army and surveillance state for the few survivng plebs.

The endgame can only be to inflict mass destruction so whoever figures out AI fastest can rule over the flaming wreckage... nothing else makes sense by this point.

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u/aleks9797 13h ago

The endgame is that the rich will own multiple areas and move around in accordance with the temperature etc. they already do this with them following nice weather on yachts etc.

Difference being, AI and robotics will help them control the plebs and prevent them from rising up. If we're all fkd, then they may aswell enjoy themselves on the boat before it sinks.

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u/TheWhistleThistle 11h ago

Then money has served its purpose and has become obsolete. Money is just a means to an end. The end is stuff. Things. Goods and land and the like. Sure, no one will be able to pad their pockets with the tokens we used to acquire stuff but they'll have all the stuff so why would they care. It's like running out of puzzle pieces because you've finished the picture. So what? The puzzle pieces' only purpose was to be part of the picture, with it complete, they're no longer needed. And you'd only ever need a piece if the picture was incomplete, same way you only need money if there's a thing you want that you don't already have access to.

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u/Kg714 19h ago

I'm losing my fucking mind over this.

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u/Sewickley412 19h ago

Thousands of years! We will never change

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u/justkeeptrying81 17h ago

The wealthy are always behind fascism

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u/MadAstrid 1d ago

Oligarchs and wealthy conservatives told people to not believe established science and data because they wanted to siphon more money away from people before society collapsed. They hope this will enable them to protect themselves from the worst of it.

They did this by bundling their climate denial with bigotry and it worked super well on people who wanted permission to hate.

The people who don’t understand and are really upset are those ones who turned down the denial/bigotry bundle.

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u/Andrew-Cohen 1d ago

Like what is the end game? Money is going to be worthless world economy and environment crash..

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u/HangoverGang4L 1d ago

This is the hope that fuels movements like Proud Boys and such. The quicker the world fails, the faster those cucks can seek their "rightful place" at the top of the heirarchy.

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u/TableSignificant341 1d ago edited 13h ago

They're so weak and cowardly that they can only be at the top if the world is in ashes.

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u/Busy_Combination9697 1d ago

To quote Satan's line from John Milton's epic poem "Paradise Lost"; "Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven".

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u/HangoverGang4L 20h ago

Eww...who wants to be a servant, you peasant? I must reign!!!

they said, ignomoniously claiming to be Christians

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u/Weekly_Molasses_2079 13h ago

Hey didn't some people say that about antifa? In my hometown, there is plenty of antifa graffiti that states, "The joy of destruction is a joy of creation".

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u/TableSignificant341 13h ago

Antifa? You fell for a Boomer conspiracy.

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u/Weekly_Molasses_2079 12h ago

I'm not from the US. In Europe Antifa is quite vocal as well as notorious for leaving graffiti and assaulting people during national parades. Honestly why couldn't you believe that? I have some friends who joined antifa in high school and they always talked about this sort of stuff.

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u/tabbynumber3 21h ago

what do they hope to achieve? like, congratulations, you are now the proud owner of earth, which has nothing left on it.

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u/HangoverGang4L 20h ago

Yes. A chaotic world where their brutality reigns supreme, and those that disagree with their view cower or submit like good servants.

Wait...we already have a name for these kinds of people.

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u/Electronic-Deer728 1d ago

The only hope is that the billionaires retreat to their island bunkers and rising sea levels cover the islands.

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u/swiftekho 22h ago

When the last tree has fallen

And the rivers are poisoned

You cannot eat money

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u/HAc0reRD 1d ago

They don’t seem to think anything at all about the environment. All their comments are about how it’s an agenda.

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u/Pug_Defender 22h ago

that’s why they’re using the money to build bunkers

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u/takenbylovely 23h ago

They think they're going to tech their way out of climate collapse and only we peons will be affected.

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u/callsyouonit 23h ago

They want this. They are actively trying to move the world into post-currency, at least gov $ currencies, and into corporate tokens that they control. 

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u/corvusman 22h ago

They’ll move to their private Hawaii islands & robotic floating cities and be fine.

Why you think Musk is peddling the Mars theme for the last 10 years?

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u/HillInTheDistance 20h ago

They're putting a whole lot of that money into bunkers in places where the scientists they pay predict the least ammount of environmental damage. Just in case no one cleans up their mess.

But they are expecting someone to clean up the mess. They know what theyre doing ain't sustainable, but right now, it either makes them money, or is predicted to make themoney in the future, so they keep doing what they're doing until it ain't profitable no more, or someone actively stops them.

And if no one manages to stop them, if irreversible damagae is done before the ride's over, they'll point fingers.

They'll blame everyone else for not working hard enough to make something profitable that also saves the world, which they could have invested in instead.

Or they'll blame everyone else for not using what they made, to save the world.

And they'll retreat to their bunkers, which will be about the last piece of actual wealth left in the world. And they'll cut off a slice for whoever is willing to shoot the rest of us.

If they're lucky, the last bastion of humanity will be the five hundred richest and their five thousand favorite slaves in the last inhabitable part of the world.

And they'll live a relatively easy life there until they decide to call it quits.

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u/NixtRDT 19h ago

It’s all one big prisoner’s dilemma. No single company or single individual is incentivized to change their behavior.

What’s funny is we have an example in recent history of humanity working collectively to solve a global problem: banning CFCs to let the ozone layer repair itself.

We would need nations to take that same kind of collective action again, and you would hope an event like what just happened in Nepal could be a catalyst. We have to move beyond treaties and start passing laws with real teeth and consequences.

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u/Inside-Example-7010 1d ago

yeah but they will own all the assets.

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u/Andrew-Cohen 1d ago

Maybe they can build their own bubbles with clean water and clean air and solar panels and.. live the rest of their lives in a bubble. I’m sure it will be a nice bubble.

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u/Inside-Example-7010 23h ago

In the past its always been possible for the masses to overthrow the elite by sheer force of numbers. But by the time our society is ready for its storming of the Bastille moment it will be technologically impossible to do it.

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u/Andrew-Cohen 23h ago

Funny thing like an electric magnetic pulse erases all sorts of data. Possible to do so without setting off a nke hopefully.

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u/Inside-Example-7010 23h ago

all you need to counter an emp is a sensor at a distance that picks it up and tells everything behind it to shut off for the next second or whatever.

We are still at the point where guerilla warfare can beat the military industrial complex. We saw it in afganistan and we are seeing it in Iran with shahaed drones as well.

But one day i think the elites of that time will be impervious to such technology then we will end up with some Dune tier bloodlines. Probably 40000 years from now House Musk is begging the emperor to let him have Arakus.

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u/Andrew-Cohen 23h ago

EMP travels at the speed of light. That means it travels a mile in .0003 seconds. I’ll let you think that one over for a bit.

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u/Inside-Example-7010 23h ago

you use a fiber optic connection which transmits light not electricity. Fiber is impervious to EMP.

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u/Andrew-Cohen 23h ago

So one tiny part of the machine is impervious to it. Genius idea.

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u/Inside-Example-7010 23h ago

you dont have a very engineering inclined mind i take it?

The sensor is external. Its processor is inside a Faraday cage. The connection between the 2 is fiber optic. The connection from processor to general systems is fiber.

Theres your anti EMP sensor. it costs about 5 bucks.

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u/SpunkyMcButtlove07 23h ago

As long as there are two people on this wretched rock, there will be a use for currency and weapons.

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u/daroach1414 21h ago

The end game is that the ceos make bank and get out prior to shit hitting the fan.

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u/BigConstruction4247 20h ago

Get out... where?

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u/TheWhistleThistle 11h ago

Depends on what tech is like when it happens. Either Elysium style space stations, Wall-E style giga-cruisers or just fortified compounds on Earth, monitored 24/7 by automated security.

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u/TylerKasprzyk 1d ago

I am surprised that I don’t hear more talk about how the data centers are going to be so much worse for the environment than what we have going now

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u/MintyFresh771 1d ago

It won’t make it worse, it’ll just make it sooner. That’s why you’re not hearing the experts - they’re tired of saying we have X amount of time to prevent this catastrophe we can clearly see coming and the world ignores them. We’re realistically past the heating point of no return.

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u/Embarrassed_Use_7206 21h ago

Yeah, data centers are the least of our problems. First of all, coal has to go, like yesterday was late. We need to replace as much power generation with renewables as possible. Then meat production needs to go way down in hand with less food waste, and then we need to actively collect carbon. The whole rest of the equation almost does not matter. If you don't believe it, look up the numbers on greenhouse gas emmiters by source or industry.

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u/Expensive-Willow-570 21h ago

Concrete. We need to find something better than concrete or really revamp how it’s made.

Of course we’re running low on river sand for that industry so it might solve itself.

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u/Cute_Owl1150 1d ago

They want to speed this up. They want us replaced by AI and robots. For that, we need to die first.

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u/ThaddeusJP 20h ago

No they need us as cattle.

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u/Stunning-Pen-2412 1d ago

They think a technological breakthrough will save us or at least them.

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u/Busy_Combination9697 1d ago

Science and technology are warning us and trying to save us now! By the time people pay attention, it will be far too late.

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u/viralust 1d ago

Tbh, I think it's already too late. I also think a lot of very rich people know that. It's likely that one day soon, people will look back and say, "oh, thats why he wanted Canada and Greenland." Climate refugees are going to be a thing, and no one is prepared for that. The markets will crash and all of the defenders of infinite growth will finally stfu. "We're in a car headed towards a brick wall and everyone's arguing over where they're going to sit." -David Suzuki

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u/BigConstruction4247 20h ago

Trump isn't thinking about that. He's just being a jackass because it gives him attention and takes attention away from the Epstein Files.

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u/k-albasi 1d ago

There’s no such thing as too late. We can always stop it from getting even worse.

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u/BonusPlantInfinity 19h ago

No one is giving up beef or recreational travel.

Grandma seeing your 4th baby for the 20th time is more important than,say, the world we’ll live in.

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u/hi-fen-n-num 18h ago

We can always stop it from getting even worse

It can only get worse from now on without lucking out on some kind of tech to reverse the cycle that has begun.

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u/k-albasi 9h ago

The warming that’s baked in can always get worse from more greenhouse gases. If we continue outputting tons of co2 per person it will get worse and worse and worse. Unless humanity is extinct we can always make it warmer.

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u/Stunning-Pen-2412 1d ago

I agree. The only way to save us is to stop putting carbon in the air. There won't be some miracle technology found that continues to allow us to live our lives of convenience.

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u/SeonghwaStoleMyBias 17h ago

No they don't, they think humanity won't survive except for them in their bunkers.

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u/Stunning-Pen-2412 16h ago

Maybe, but I think they're delusional.

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u/SeonghwaStoleMyBias 16h ago

Oh they are, but that's what they believe. Peter Thiel literally will not say that he wants humans to survive, and all these chuds subscribe to his ideology.

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u/1cem4n82 1d ago

Slap a bible on that flood and we don’t need to science anymore.

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u/Trifle_Old 1d ago

Putin has killed or injured 1.5 Million of his own people in Ukraine for no measurable benefit for his country. However, he has managed to seize more power over his people during that time. That is the only thing these people want, power.

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u/gilt3t 1d ago

the amount of MFing videos I was forced to see of people getting buried on reddit was so absolutely disgusting. It ruined me for 2 days straight. People were just commenting like normal, maybe because they felt so detached? They just watched 100+ people get blasted away and buried, those people were having a normal day just 3 hours before.

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u/SketchSkirmish 1d ago

They have air conditioned, self-sustaining dooms-day complexes under ground. They DGAF. They would just settle down there, die of old age, and the future of the world won’t be their problem. Cancer, the lot of them.

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u/InfamousAd1245 1d ago

Billionaires don’t care about normal people. Humans need to get that fact in their heads.

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u/OneWillow4834 1d ago

They need data centers to run their autonomous army they’re currently creating 

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u/Many_Many1331 22h ago

Billionaires are the greatest threat to humanity. 

If we were smart we would [Removed by Reddit]

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u/Elinim 22h ago edited 21h ago

If there was a button that you could press and you would earn $1000 but someone they didn't know would die, billionaires are hiring engineers to find a way to spam click this button as frequently as physically possible.

And other billionaires are competing against them to click it even faster.

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u/Portland_Runner 1d ago

Phase II - the bacteria and viruses trapped in the ice for thousands of years begin infecting people with no immunity to these ancient diseases.

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u/Impossible-Rain7447 1d ago

Yep when that permafrost thaws. It’s gonna be covid on roids

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u/The-Psych0naut 1d ago

That’s assuming those viruses are compatible with existing animal biology, and are capable zoonosis.

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u/Proud_Swordfish_3442 1d ago

yeahh. seems like a far shot of becoming reality.

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u/funsonnyc 1d ago

New fear unlocked. Thanks

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u/Friscolax 1d ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/SnioCkL9cd3B6
They’re fkng the planet to impress their friends.

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u/Sheegssternator 1d ago

Why do you think they are pushing for mars.

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u/ThinInvestment4369 1d ago

The Pacific Ocean is the hottest it’s ever been and it’s just going to get worse https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c62m4gpnp78o

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u/Michael-Sean 1d ago

It is the same after a school shooting, instead of getting rid of the guns, Republicans want more guns in the schools (cops, teachers, robo dogs)

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u/JoeBagANachos 23h ago

ABOLISH BILLIONAIRES

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u/Few_Highway_8481 23h ago

It's almost like we need to engage in self defense against the billionaires that are literally killing us so they can get richer.

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u/No_Collection_8443 22h ago

Trying to kill of the masses man.

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u/TheHistorian2 20h ago

Because the 8.3 billion haven’t chosen to rise up against the other 50 million (rich/politicians/LEO/military).

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u/truthdeniar 1d ago

Super el nino yall

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u/Jumpy-Cry-3083 1d ago

Oh yeah, because it’s never happened before right? /s

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u/beebeebee2142 1d ago

Glacier in *China collapsed. That fancy gatehouse building was the border/customs. The villages were downstream of that.

Don't put villages at the bottom of slot canyons, they're prone to dangerous floods.

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u/Top-Caregiver7815 1d ago

They’re going to kill us all it’s inevitable.

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u/TableSignificant341 1d ago

They don't need us for our labour anymore. AI is making us redundant so we're just resource consumers to them.

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u/ruff_rabbit 1d ago

Well... you cant have floods if there is no water left! Think about it!

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u/Kiar_Riptide 1d ago

I've talked to someone who thought this whole thing was AI because "nobody was talking about it"

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u/dyslexic-ape 1d ago

What else am I supposed to do?

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u/No-Tomatillo3698 1d ago

They still think their bunkers will save them

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u/Not_Enough_Pepperoni 1d ago

People dying is like a billionaires wet dream. Blood on the street means that there is money to be made.

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u/iam4qu4m4n 1d ago

Many problems of society and human design can be improved or fixed. The issue is it is not highly profitable to do and we keep allowing wealth and resources to accumulate with people who aren't interested in helping society or humanity unless they can exploit the system for their personal gain at the expense of others.

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u/ElPeloPolla 1d ago

@grok how do we prevent the glaciers from melting??? 

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u/bobbymcpresscot 1d ago

Because Oil and Gas companies have invested millions of dollars into forcing pro fossil fuel propaganda into our school system and genuinely treat every change that has been made to either make cars more efficient, or systems more efficient overall was stuff they just decided to do themselves, and totally not regulation they were forced to abide by.

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u/FabianN 23h ago

The current thought on the process of this event was that the bedrock failed first, and that caused the glacier chunk to break off.

A failure in the bedrock is a different situation. 

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u/a1055x 23h ago

Greedy ignoramus

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u/clownsavage 23h ago

It collapsed because of Chinese mining though...

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u/Acrobatic-Visit-5963 23h ago

Cause they dont care and dont have to... at least not yet

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u/jasonjdf13 23h ago

That’s not what happened at all , a large avalanche and rock slide happened years earlier and created a lake high up the valley and eventually the ice chunks melted releasing the lake all at once , there was never supposed to be a lake up stream to begin with

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u/anomanderrake1337 23h ago

Cute little canary. The real hunger games are coming.

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u/Every_Application_26 23h ago

Right climate change only started when AI datacenters popped up.

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u/mid-random 23h ago

Sadly, it's human nature. Many of us have resources we do not absolutely need, that could be instead used to literally save other people's lives, demonstrably, yet instead we use those resources for ourselves and the ones we love. For many, and perhaps most people, the lives of unknown others simply are not as real as our own.

Yes, it totally sucks that tens, hundreds, thousands, millions of other people are suffering and dying, but the reality is that unless they are someone close enough to you that their plight directly impacts your life, it's not going to mean nearly as much as the fact that your second cousin, who you haven't seen in more than ten years, but you had great fun together at family cook-outs when your were 12, got killed in a car accient last week. You will totally drive three hours to their funeral next week, but you will not send $50 to the Against Malaria Foundation and save half a dozen children's lives. It's one of those things that us comfortable middle class people never talk about.

I am as guilty of it as anyone. I could profoundly improve and even save many people's lives if it was a higher priority for me, but instead I'm making sure my nieces and nephews won't have to care for me as I get old. Yes, of course it's not black and white, there's a very broad gradient here, but the fact is that most of us who could do more choose not to do so.

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u/danman966 22h ago

The annual water usage of animal agriculture is around 5400x as much as the water usage of AI, in the best case. Eat plants instead of meat and dairy if you're worried about the environment

Source: https://bankfornature.org/newsroom/how-bad-is-ai-for-the-environment-heres-how-it-compares-to-animal-agriculture

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u/Practical-Sink-3987 22h ago

These people will do something when the supply chains collapse and everything becomes a scarce resource. They will let millions perish until the champagne and caviar run out.

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u/geeky_pastimes 22h ago

Global shipping accounts for about 3% of emissions ( https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c20xxv22wl9o ), energy production accounts for 27% to 33%.

Transport as a whole accounts for 15%, food production is 17%, industry is 20%.

Also worth remembering that data centres are a massively growing sector, so they're absolutely something we should be worried about.

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u/Jizzbuscuit 22h ago

Whatever did happen to climate change?

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u/jimmyxs 22h ago

The glacier didn’t hit the billionaires backyard.

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u/saljskanetilldanmark 22h ago

Did it happen in an affluent area in the USA? Obviously no, according to the description. So, no reason to do anything. Relax.

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u/Tzeig 22h ago

Thanks for the sub.

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u/ProduceNo1629 22h ago

Not that it's any better, but CCP ignored geological surveys and blasted that mountain to bits.

Still billionaire scum.

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u/muFUtaco 22h ago

And pushing pushing pushing OIL OIL OIL - drilling, burning, polluting with it.

Can't let those rich people down! BURN MORE OIL!!! Burn baby burn!

This is my parody of course. I would like nothing more than solar and wind (and other ecologically sound methods - NOT nuclear) to take the money out of the pockets of the oil robber barons and industrialists - but they (the oil burning crowd) has other plans for the planet, plans that don't include "us" (peons) (serfs) (chattel)

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u/VaporCarpet 22h ago

Because the effects of climate change will hit those places first, before any of the billionaires face any actual repercussions from it.

It will just lead to more migration and a bigger right-wing pushback against migration and more trillionaires.

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u/LeDjaap 21h ago

We use popularity contest to pick our leaders and deploy more money to dismiss science than for science itself. Our infos are paid by publicity and miltary budgets outspend all of the above. what did you expect.

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u/One_Winter 21h ago

I don't think most people have ever really understood that these people hate you. They actively want to see you get hurt. You have no idea how they talk behind closed doors.

You would be an outcast if you, even in the slightest, advocated for helping anyone.

I promise you. I've seen it. I can't stress this enough.

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u/highsinthe70s 21h ago

Remember September 11, when a group of Saudi nationals murdered thousands of Americans? Immediately after, we should have started a new Manhattan Project to transition to renewable energy, so we could tell the Saudis to get bent. Instead, what did we do? We started buying the largest and most gas-guzzling SUVs ever brought to market. We did the exact opposite of what we should’ve done. And we do that now in almost every situation, especially since the only fiscal policy of this government is to give billionaires everything they want.

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u/maos_cigarette 21h ago

I recommend everyone start spending more time offline talking with folks in their local communities about what they can do to deal with any planned data centres, at least those of us who are available to do this (I know not everyone has that freedom).

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u/eamesaarinen 21h ago

yeah, it didn’t kill them so it doesn’t matter. it’s us v them. like a handful.

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u/SuckerForNoirRobots 21h ago

The human race has gone so far since it came into existence and here we are fucking up all of it

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u/EdgarAllanOhNo 20h ago

THEY DON'T GIVE A FUCK. THEY WILL SURVIVE THE CLIMATE APOCALYPSE IN THE UNDERGROUND BUNKERS THEY ARE ALL BUYING.

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u/Hekke1969 20h ago

The Epstein class

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u/BigRed888 20h ago

Didn't the glacier collapse because China was doing construction in the area?

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u/pynergy1 20h ago

Does anybody think that human progress is going to be slowed by 600 people dying?

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u/cakingabroad 20h ago

I know don't look up was kinda cringe but like.... yeah.

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u/Entitledspider 19h ago

Control water, control us. It's fuck*n Mad Max.

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u/Sun_Is_Lord 19h ago

Human minds are not. The climate is Perfect in the Garden of Eden. The Patriarchy is GOD. Society is a Matriarchy and a scarecrow is a false idol. jesus and allah don’t exist. The LORD GOD is the Sun ☀️

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u/Unique-flowerlady420 19h ago

I'm starting to believe that the plan is to kill all of us regular people off and once we're all gone, use the world as their personal playground

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u/Best-Net-3886 19h ago

Simple to understand: the same evil that lives in our hearts lives in billionaires hearts.

That time you cheated on a test in 3rd grade was motivated by the same evil that motivated the greed in rich peoples hearts

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u/radwimps 18h ago

The Alps are also collapsing on a bunch of towns recently too, because the permafrost is melting. Fun fun.

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u/mgwelder24 18h ago

they dont care

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u/Dependent_Swimming81 18h ago

meanwhile newer models are being released which don't require intensive compute in the first place .... make it make sense ... AI bubble needs to pop for the benefit of humanity

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u/Noodelgawd 17h ago

I genuinely don't understand how people who are most vocal about climate change, also tend to be pretty anti-nuclear, when massive expansion of nuclear energy is probably the only way we're going to stem the tide.

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u/auau_gold_scoffs 17h ago

some time life gives you lemons and you say okay lemons are cool but i have to build a killdozer.

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u/Randyguyishere 17h ago

It’s just summer /s

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u/Present-Spring-1340 16h ago

THIS is not Not the universe I came from

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u/Youarekillingmeeee 14h ago

It’s easy to understand when those at the top with money can easily group together for a couple common goals, especially if it means perpetuating their rule

Anyone not at the top will never band together over any common goal without the group being co-opted or splinter-issues being the only thing the loudest of the group complains about, thus destroying any chance of rising against the top in any meaningful way

The larger the population gets the worse this problem becomes, not sure how more people don’t see this

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u/Objective_Yellow3190 14h ago

Billionaires are building data centers because there is a demand for it. Want to stop billionaires? Stop using the internet.

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u/Lost_Anywhere_69 12h ago

Till Youre ready to literally die for change, it’ll never happen.

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u/Top_Bug7822 12h ago

They even had to evacuate a second time because a second flashflood might be incoming.

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u/SomeDude416 11h ago

It's because they need AI to control us completely and they have a raging control boner.

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u/Leopolddagreat 8h ago

The Epstein class are willing to burn the earth to the ground to fill their already full pockets of more money.

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u/worcestr 8h ago

Billionaires don't think like normal people. They see normal people as beneath them. I always think of the Layer Cake movie.

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u/HaikuHaiku 7h ago

If only we had used a little less AC and recycled our garbage this wouldn't have happened! /s

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u/HotPersonality8126 6h ago

Top 15 Countries by Total GHG Emissions (2023, t CO₂eq) World Population Review

Rank Country Total GHG Emissions Per Capita (t CO₂eq) % of World
1 China 15.9B 11.11 30.1%
2 United States 6.0B 17.61 11.25%
3 India 4.1B 2.90 7.8%
4 Russia 2.7B 18.66 5.05%
5 Brazil 1.3B 5.97 2.45%

Sure, it's definitely US data centers on the other side of the world that haven't been built yet, and not the immediately neighboring country whose CO2 emissions are equal to the sum of the next six emitters, that's definitely real

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u/Izator 4h ago

You really believe that?
Then you wouldn't have liked this. 😂🤣😂

“Geological evidence suggests that the Earth endured several severe ice ages early in its history.
The longest and most severe was between 2.3 and 2.4 billion years ago, and lasted around 70 million years.
Throughout this period, the entire Earth was probably covered in ice, possibly to a depth of 1 km (0.6 mile).
During the Last Glacial Maximum (Iceage) that ended 20,000 years ago, the hydrological cycle was so effectively interrupted on a planetary scale that the ocean’s sea levels dropped dramatically by at least 100 meters.
This period began approximately 80,000 years earlier”.

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u/tlm11110 Unpopular Opinions 4h ago

How you gonna stop it! Real proposals only, please. Just Stop Oil is not a policy.

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u/Fit_Test_4233 1h ago

Ya contact china and all the Muslim countries and try to explain to them this problem. It’s not the countries that speak English. Get an interpreter

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u/lance_baker-3 58m ago

You need to process this; they don't care.

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u/Crafty_Way426 42m ago

😂😂😂 No such thing as man-made climate change.

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u/Mockmens 25m ago

Stopping the entire globe from warming is more than all of the billionaires combined are capable of handling. They can’t make the 99% stop using plastic, stop driving cars, stop traveling, or grow their own food, made their own reusable clothes, shoes, eating utensils. The problem lies with the 99% and adopting a culture of single use living within society. They don’t force us to eat meat from their factories, the produce from their shelves, the clothes from their stores. We chose, and we do so because it is easier than growing your own food, and stitching your own shirt.

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u/Solid_Ad2968 10m ago

A lot of people refuse to understand the cause of this. Also they'd like to say that these are all natural. Such as the brain program by capitalism

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u/Jadey-R- 10m ago

Abd trying to gaslight us that there’s something wrong with us for not wanting them

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u/dangernoodlezzz 1d ago

Because a billionaire needs another jet. You just wouldn't understand /s

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u/Noedel80 1d ago

They are out of touch with reality so they don't even see that global warming is an issue. Or better: they don't want to see

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u/RikkaWasHere 1d ago

Someone explain the ice caps to me in better detail for the argument of global warming. Icebergs are mostly underwater. And ice has more volume than water. So with them all melting..... that = less volume. So how does that = water rising when there is less overall volume. The sea levels should be dropping. Genuine question. Any degradation or inability to just stick to topic at hand will get you ignored.

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u/gdg6 1d ago

Ice caps and glaciers are on land, unlike floating ice bergs.

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u/Big_Humor1558 1d ago

Plenty of glaciers are located on land, so when that ice melts, the liquid is added to the oceans, raising the level. Oceans up by over 8 inches/ 21 cm since 1880.

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u/FabianN 23h ago

Majority of ice is on land. By a huge margin.

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u/Edduppp 21h ago

Very strange attitude for for asking people to do something for you

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u/iTALKtoMYmyself 18h ago

what is it with redditors and making weird snarky comments to others over something entirely benign

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u/Jigsawsupport 19h ago

Ok in two parts.

1 The small bit there is an awful lot of ice on land, for instance all the ice on antartica, all the ice on Greenland.

2 The big bit, most of the increase is due to thermal expansion, if you take say 500ml of water and measure it at 1C it will be 500ml.

If you then take that same glass of water and measure it at around 90c you will find you have 8ml more water.

Now if we take a body of water as massive as the oceans and heat it a few C then you can understand the increase.

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u/Imaginary_Gene_5749 7h ago

Glaciers are also on land brother

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u/snowillis 20h ago

This seems like a good line of questioning to take to a chatbot. You’re coming off a bit condescending here and you’re probably mainly going to get condescending responses from real people. Personally, I had to take a step back and rewrite my eli5 response which went something along the lines of “ice go drip drip etc”

Water expands when it freezes yes, but it’s also a solid which doesn’t flow downhill or fit the container it’s in. Once it melts it can only fill up the lowest point which causes sea level rise.

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u/LithoSlam 1d ago

Maybe the data center can tell us what to do

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u/TableSignificant341 1d ago

They don't need us for our labour anymore. AI is making us redundant so we're just consuming their precious resources.

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u/PrometheusMMIV 1d ago

August temperatures in Nepal have been trending down for the last couple decades, with this year being colder than average.

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u/LifeguardTerrible579 23h ago

I mean it's literally a flood area. It's been flooded that Way over and over and over and over and over and over and will continue to over and over.

I'm not saying global warning is a hoax but when flood areas flood let's not lose our shit

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u/LeAcoTaco 20h ago

The glacier that collapsed has been frozen for thousands of years lets not pretend like thats normal flooding my guy.

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u/Alternative_Bat_669 19h ago

There was an earthquake that caused the flooding.

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u/LeAcoTaco 19h ago

Google if that happened bud, the readings they detected, were from the glacier.

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u/Medium-Magician9186 23h ago

Data centers are owned by white people, and Nepal is not white people. Its very easy to understand.

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u/Vindicationnnnnn 22h ago

The environment is fucked to be sure, but this event seems to be the result of a landslide per many reports.

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u/NoTeslaForMe 17h ago

People don't want facts; they want someone to blame (as long as it's not the person in the mirror).

1% of worldwide fossil fuel usages goes to data centers.  And most of that goes to non-AI uses like Reddit, which people seemed perfectly all right with.  You didn't hear people blaming data centers for anything until the 2020s AI boom, and now suddenly 0.4% of fossil fuels usage is going to be what's destroying the world, not their long commutes, not their choosing to eat meat instead of veggies, not their far-flung vacations, not the crap their ship in from China, and not their Internet addictions. No, it's the thing that they were against anyway.

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u/filmAF 22h ago

i genuinely don't understand why other nations haven't destroyed the US in self defense. we are 5% of the world's population, and responsible for at least 50% of it's problems.

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u/Winter_Ad6187 17h ago

Well considering this is an industrial accident caused by the Chinese that has nothing to do with global warming, I suggest telling the Chinese not to build just below a glacier...