r/ProgrammerHumor 17h ago

Meme iHateThisPassiveAgressiveBehaviourRuby

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u/pydry 17h ago

Correction : JavaScript is the weird language people actually use.

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u/deceze 16h ago

Fact: programming as a profession might be the single weirdest thing humanity has ever done.

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u/Nimeroni 16h ago

What, you means it's weird we instruct daemons made of lightning in a rock with an arcane language ?

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u/Lucho_199 15h ago

Funny that it sounds so epic

https://giphy.com/gifs/fX8771PO1eATJz6r4R

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u/evorm 11h ago

That's cause it is pretty epic when you think about it. We have made lifeless objects we can bestow with our intelligence, and they in turn can affect the world tangibly using only the mere inscription of information.

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u/laplongejr 11h ago

For the anti-epic version XKCD#722 has us covered

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u/Confident-Ad5665 15h ago

Those of us drawn to it certainly are.

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u/Weak_Inflation9120 14h ago

"There are only two kinds of languages: the ones people complain about and the ones nobody uses,” Bjarne Stroustrup. As much as I hate JS, he has a point

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u/ScientificBeastMode 3h ago

It’s true. Mostly because widespread usage means adding/subtracting features based on short-term business needs instead of deeply thought out, conceptually sound design principles.

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u/oldsecondhand 17h ago

Addendum: all script languages are weird.

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u/Striky_ 16h ago

Correct but somehow some managers decided it is the correct language to base every new technology on... Somehow

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u/oldsecondhand 16h ago

I'm glad that at least Rust and Kotlin are getting some mindshare.

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u/foonek 15h ago

Is kotlin though?

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u/oldsecondhand 15h ago

On Android it's popular, and some teams use it on backend too.

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u/foonek 15h ago

I haven't seen kotlin used on the backend ever, personally. Of course sample size: 1.

I can see it being more popular on android though indeed

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u/oldsecondhand 14h ago

I've seen it once in an investment bank, and the solution didn't even have an Android project. It was just infrastructure for other backend projects.

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u/Vidimka_ 12h ago

Good for them! Ive been enjoying Java since start but one day Kotlins blessing has come upon me and its so great. It gives so much Daniel / Cooler Daniel vibes! Wish more companies would prefer Kotlin at least for new projects

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u/SalamanderSylph 11h ago

I'm in an IB and we use Kotlin for backend services

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u/Loading_M_ 12h ago

To be fair, Java on the backend is also getting less common as well. Rust and Go are taking more of the space.

JS also has a huge market share, but I don't have to be happy about it.

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u/oldsecondhand 11h ago

Not in finance. Retail banking and most of investment banking runs on Java.

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u/eo5g 13h ago

Addendum: all languages are weird.

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u/Maleficent_Memory831 8h ago

Except for 8051 assembler language. It's merely eccentric.

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u/Maleficent_Memory831 8h ago

Ruby though (ignor the on Rails gibberish) is just a textual form of Smalltak. With a few warts.

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u/ClipboardCopyPaste 16h ago

Opinion: Every programming language that provides some kind of abstraction is weird.

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u/foonek 15h ago

Even assembly is an abstraction. Going deeper leaves you without a programming language

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u/PlanetVisitor 15h ago

going deeper will leave you without ...any (type of) language

going deeper will leave you without ... anything

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u/foonek 15h ago

That's very deep

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u/ttlanhil 10h ago

You have machine code, still a language of sorts, but very low level and not at all portable. But once upon a time that's what programmers wrote

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u/PlanetVisitor 9h ago

Exactly, but can that be called a language?

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u/ttlanhil 3h ago

That's the language the computer actually understands

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u/audigex 7h ago

Just me sitting here manually turning switches on and off

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u/Maleficent_Memory831 8h ago

Hardware is merely organized quantum chaos.

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u/sadongrohiik 15h ago

JavaScript is actually fine, what's not fine is it being crammed in everywhere it doesn't belong due to sheer laziness. You want to make button do stuff on the web? JavaScript is great. You're processing business logic on the backend? just no. I just do not understand why we'd rather jump through all these hoops just to make JavaScript fit where other languages fit naturally 

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u/Maleficent_Memory831 8h ago

JavaScript just grew into that role, but being the browser-side language that let you push buttons. Creeping featurism let it be able to do things it should never have been able to do. Features added without a lot of thought and with incredibly weird semantics that were easier to implement without actually making a solid standalone language. It is weird precisely because it grew through accretion rather than design.

It's a wart on the side of a browser that grew and grew until it had arms, legs, and fingers.

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u/HammerChilli 13h ago

Forgive me because I'm just a junior dev - but when the API is already written in Node or .ts I mean, it's gonna do some business logic with incoming requests, or are you saying back ends shouldn't be in js entirely?

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u/sadongrohiik 12h ago

There was really never a real reason to use JS on the backend and it wasn't designed for it. There are tons of languages far more suited for backend. For some reason the idea of the entire codebase being in a single language appealed so much to many organizations that we continuously create weird abominations to fit a square peg in the round hole

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u/Top-Rough-7039 13h ago

and webapps. there is already a browser, why add more issues.

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u/woololooo 15h ago

f off. ruby rules. bye.

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u/thisguyfightsyourmom 7h ago

Did you guys hear something?

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u/traditional_ant_56 15h ago

Heavily* use

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u/[deleted] 12h ago

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u/cross_the_threshold 11h ago

What? Ruby on Rails is what Twitter was originally built on. Huge platforms are still using it. It was a top ten language in 2015, and though it’s far from its peak it’s quite stable now. Do you only talk to Java and Python devs?

I mean hell have you heard of GitHub??

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u/Robo-Connery 10h ago

Why make a website with JavaScript when ruby on rails exists.

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u/iSpaYco 3h ago

GitHub, Shopify, and many others are running on Ruby on Rails, and RoR jobs pay more. cry.

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u/thisguyfightsyourmom 7h ago

I’ll never forget the time I interviewed the hotshot digital agency in town for a job and the owner scoffed hard and gloated over Ruby’s supremacy vs the Node ecosystem in terms of app development when I said I saw myself making a career of web app development with JS.

Then React launched, and I only think about him when people mention Rails now.