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u/itijara 4h ago
Old Timers: Build better and better tools to make programming easier
Hipsters: Refuse to use those tools because "look how much better the old timers are at programming"
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u/Luce_Bot_Bot 3h ago
My brother insists on coding in base C and Assembly.
He is yet to complete a single project despite being in his mid 40's
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u/itijara 3h ago
Skill issue. C and "Assembly" (which one?) are perfectly cromulent programming languages.
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u/Luce_Bot_Bot 3h ago
Definitely a skill issue, I imagine he just got tired of writing malloc at some point.
Not sure which assembly language specifically but he was writing a GUI for MS-Dos last I checked
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u/gerbosan 3h ago
Oh, you mean he has incomplete projects like any of us? 😅
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u/Luce_Bot_Bot 3h ago
Well yes, but I feel like his keep adjusting in scope and complexity for the sake of being unfinishable
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u/Confident-Ad5665 2h ago
As an old timer, give me a debugger I can use to step through code, add watches, and breaks any day over old school logging and console output.
That said, the back end dev I do does not have support for such fancy smancy things.
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u/Daniikk1012 1h ago
Linus Torvalds, creator of Linux: uses his own fork of Emacs that pretty much only he maintains and doesn't have "modern" features like syntax highlighting.
Rob Pike, one of the creators of Go: uses Acme, a text editor with no syntax highlighting or autocomplete of any form, initially made for the Plan9 operating system (An OS which is no longer even exists).
It's all just up to preference and familiarity. People use whatever they're comfortable with.
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u/PumpkinFest24 2h ago
I'm 53. I use emacs and terminal windows.
I never have an "upgraded" IDE I can't use. I never have remote work problems. I can develop/debug on any users desktop or production machine. My hands rarely leave the keyboard so I save all that context switching I watch people do trying to find the mouse cursor. Etc.
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u/NotDuckie 1h ago
>I'm 53. I use emacs and terminal windows
Nice! What text editor do you use, though?
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u/DeltyOverDreams 3h ago
Sooo… how many times this happened before?
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u/Taken_out_goose 3h ago
About a dozen. Most of the time I just get some pedantic warnings and such. Also, most of these were under 1k loc.
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u/pixelbart 3h ago
Vi? What’s wrong with Ex?
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u/Gold-Bat-3225 3h ago
Skill issue guy is definitely the brother
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u/Taken_out_goose 2h ago
Can't reply with an image, but I've heard of some mf developig a missile guidance system whose entire memory management solution was:
- calculate maximum amount of memory needed during missile flight time
- double it
- done
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u/ESnyder9 1h ago
double it?! woah, let's not get ahead of ourselves here. are we scrooge mcduck? so god help me if i need to strike a position with floating point precision above 8 bits i'm turning this missile around and blowing up this goddamn office and everyone in it.
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u/tiajuanat 1h ago
IIRC it is the famous AIM-9X Sidewinder missile.
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u/Taken_out_goose 1h ago
If they do that in a 9X I am going to shit diamonds.
Hmm, yes, best iteration of our simple, low cost IR missile with IRCCM, high off-botesight capability with near instant off-the-rail pull, advanced tracking, with thrust vectoring rear fin control for the first time in the series' history AND without rollerons on the rear fins, also, for the first time.
Let me just not give a shit about memory management on a 128x128 resolution sensor, with guidance unit equipped for radar cueing, data-link, Lock-on After Launch, and INS...
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u/lonelyroom-eklaghor 4h ago
Use Sublime Text. Emmet there
Use Neovintageous plugin. Vim mode, happy
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u/DDFoster96 50m ago
Not sure what you're bragging about as even with intellisense and syntax highlighting it still doesn't compile, and I'm now dead.
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u/sonaliver28 4h ago
Have you tried turning on literally any debugging tool?
'No'