Last F2P challenge for this ToA season. I tried Hazard 4 but gave up pretty quickly, I never want to fight Fatherless Explorer ever again.
I did quite some mistakes, also didn't notice TWICE my Buling already had the first half of forte filled... If curious I have a much cleaner run here (with Cosmic Ripples instead of Fusion Accretion) → https://youtu.be/grenQyxua1A
The key to succeed was getting good (or decent) grouping on the first 2 waves and being sure to rotate as close to 25s as possible, also with the help of the Scarlet Coda quickswap which is very risky if Phrolova happens to dodge or do more attacks. Initially it took me a disgusting amount of runs to get a successful clear, but once I got accustomed to the advanced cancels and rotation timings I could get good runs more consistently (assuming good grouping in the first 2 waves, which is in large part RNG driven). Note Phrolova isn't benefitting from any tower effect, EXCEPT for the Res reduction from Negative Status (thanks to Buling, with Verina this would have been impossible).
If interested I have other F2P oriented runs for this exiting ToA both on my main channel and on the alt-channel, included a Premium Jinhsi Hazard 4 clear which I didn't post earlier (it was meant to be part of a bigger ToA video which I never finished).
I am real tempted to pull for more copies of Chixia, if only to both her and Galbrena at S6 for my future midriff guns blazing team (I’m still waiting on a future third character that fits this theme)
But somebody tell me it’s a bad idea, and I SHOULDN’T pull for more copies of Chixia?
Mostly want ones free of obsessive shippers. They keep fighting and insulting each other and game discourse gets diluted. Any chill ones are fine, extra points if they are still active + hold any events like tourneys etc.
i left before 2.0 and just returned to wuwa this 3.1, this is my characters rn, any advice who to pull? i plan on getting for phrolova this 3.3 bcs i can run her with my qiuyuan. i currently have abt 40 pulls (but it’ll prob increase bcs i plan on maxing out exploration and finishing the permanent events i missed). i run sigrika, qiuyuan and sk rn and i don't have a second team which is why i need help who to pull. thx in advance for the help!!
PS. can’t post this to wuwa community bcs i’m new to reddit?? (the account is new too) but i just made this in the first place to ask for advice lolol that’s why i’m here. sorry if i’m in the wrong place, just say and i’ll remove this post hehe
Hi WuWa enjoyers. We have a problem, and what’s even more concerning is that no one is talking about it. You can consider both this post and the following video a follow up to this previous post. For a TL;DR just read the last section containing feedback to send to Kuro.
I suggest to check out the video above, it has also timestamps for better navigation, but long story short Kuro recently changed, and radically, their philosophy in terms of kit design and restrictions, proof being how they made essentially unfeasible playing Luuk and Sigrika in a quickswap archetype. You might think this isn’t a big deal and that it’s not even the first time… but careful: I didn’t say their damage is nerfed if they swap, the problem here is that you really CAN’T swap with them. Indeed many don’t think about it, but Kuro has always allowed pretty much any character to quickswap to a decent extent (arguably except Chixia and Jianxin), it’s just that that in many cases it’s simply not worth it outside of at most the setup phase. So you usually won’t see Camellya quickswapping the spin like I show in the video (it’s so freaking cool btw), but if you want to you can still do it. That was Kuro’s philosophy: nerf characters if they swap out in a way that doesn’t completely prevent quickswap but simply keeps it in check, by how much it depends on their plans for the meta.
Well, it seems now they don’t simply want to restrict characters for balance reasons, but they also want to restrict their playstyle regardless of meta.
To keep things short: this is how Luuk’s kit looks like if you want to quickswap with him
Luuk's kit when you swap out
I can’t stress enough how ridicolous this is. Again it’s not just buffs lost, but he loses access to his most important attacks outside of liberation (also nerfed), essentially it becomes a Genshin 1.0 kit.
But while you can make the argument that Luuk is meant to excel in on-field combos and cancel techs so you can enjoy those with him, Sigrika doesn’t even remotely have this kind of complexity and still she was hit hard. Do you remember that Phrolova enters Incarnation after her last Basic, unlocking the attack which gives her forte? Sigrika has the same mechanic… except that contrarily to Phrolova if she swaps out she loses the state. Why? Because Kuro said “nope” this time. On top of that her only decent basic chain swap window, the one on her Basic 3, in the live version has been nerfed, forcing her to despawn after only ~0.9s from the start of the attack if she swaps.
Sigrika's Basic 3 behaviour. Feel free to attach this to a bug ticket to send to Kuro (on the assumption it's a bug)
What makes me mad about this change is that her Basic 3 was clearly intended to be a long quickswap window, to the point devs coded it to allow Sigrika to move for whole seconds without losing the follow up on the Basic 4. They wanted her to be able to quickswap that attack, no doubts, and it would have worked marvelously if you wanted to have some fun and weren’t worried about losing buffs… but in the live version on swap her Basic 3 animation is interrupted instead, replaced with a 3 frames animation which puts her on the ground in the ugliest and lowest effort way imaginable (indicating this is likely something they added quickly and without the usual care for beautiful and coherent moves).
Let’s not beat around the bush: they made her worse on purpose, and in an ugly way, insulting in one single move the work of the developers who animated that attack, the vision of the kit designers and the players who want a bit more of a 1-2-3 easily interrupted elementary rotation (pssss... S1 gives you interruption immunity, of course it does 😪).
So... WHY?
In the video I propose 3 possible reasons. The first two are limiting alternative teams and standardising each characters, but the one which concerns me the most and is imo the most important is the third: preventing “anxiety”. If a character caters to casuals, you are supposed to only see it played in a casual way, if it’s intended to be an on-field hypercarry then that’s the only way they want you to play it and to showcase it to other players: anything more can hurt sales because it could give “weird” ideas and create confusion in the costumers the product wants to attract. What troubles me is that this might not be limited to just one character: the “gacha” model caters to impulsive players wanting immediate gratification, the most money don’t come from people spending consciously but from impulsive spenders who act before they think. These people not only are the least likely to be interested in complex mechanics which require patience and practice, but they might even be turned off by characters who have this kind of depth.
Until now Kuro never felt the need to cripple the depth of a character to squeeze even the tiniest amount of value from their assets: Luuk and Sigrika prove they changed idea to the point they are now fine restricting even core combat features if that can yield a lil bit more money.
Important note: I don’t want to create antagonism with a portion of the playerbase, I’m just trying to explain the reasons behind Kuro’s calculated move, also I genuinely think way more players would love the combat if more creators made content helping others familiarising with less intuitive tech. The biggest lie about this game is that quickswap isn’t for everyone: the ceiling sure is really high, and there’s nothing wrong with wanting to stay on the floor, but it saddens me how so many are so scared of even doing a little jump...
WHAT TO DO?
Talk about it, raise awareness, spread the knowledge. CREATORS ARE BEING TOO SILENT, I honestly find weird and concerning how after weeks of talking about this wherever and whenever I could no one else is talking about it, I can understand the most popular creators who for the most part aren't very familiar with the nuances of the combat, but literally no one else… this is worse than I could imagine, hence why I made that video (I didn’t enjoy making it, but I felt someone really had to). I never ask this, but share the video around, let people know, and ask creators to make their own content on the topic because it is really that important for the future of the game.
Let's send Kuro some feedback.
This is what you can write them:
→ About Sigrika's Basic 3 (you can send it as a bug report):
In short: Sigrika's Basic 3 animation is abruptly and unnaturally interrupted on swap, preventing to swap back to her Basic 4 in time, despite in the media server the animation is shown lasting for much longer. Please revert the behavior to the previous more natural one where the animation continues off field for a longer time, allowing quickswap.
→ About the quickswap restrictions on Luuk and Sigrika (feedback):
In short: Luuk and Sigrika show concerning hardcoded limitations that prevent them to be swapped out, not by nerfing their damage but by intentionally crippling their own kit. This prevents quickswap, an enjoyable and expressive core mechanic which shouldn't be restricted like that, limit yourself to nerf the damage for balance reasons but don't completely prevent characters from quickswapping.
Thank you for your attention, I hope we will all keep having a good time in this game.
Many wondered if Iuno is fine without weapon, or without Lynae. For Iuno mains I strongly suggest to get Lynae asap because she's extremely good for Iuno and in general for your account, but yea the signature despite very powerful isn't really needed if she can clear a floor like this with such a team. Hope this helped!
like wuwahusbandos but for female characters. i can't tolerate female character hate(i agree with criticism, but i hate when people call female characters sl*ts.) i just want to simp to women 😭😭😭😭
Hello, I am relatively new to wuthering waves and wanted to ask whether I continue on this account or start a fresh one. Currently I am on trial level 30 and on black shores 1 act 8. And my only 5 star units are Verina (who I got from losing 50/50 on limited banner) and lingyang (who i got from standard banner). Whereas my 4 stars i have c1 baizhi, c2 sanhua, c3 mortfei, c1 yangyang, c2 havoc rover, taoqi, and chixia. When I started my account I used up 40 pulls on beginner banner to try and get shorekeeper but I stopped playing before I could reach hard pity, and I didn’t finish the starter quests to get a free Verina either.
So now I was thinking to either reset my account to try and atleast get the free verina from the beginner quests as well as maybe shorekeeper, or do you think I keep my account and pull on the new units coming in 3.0 (since I already lost my 50/50 very early to Verina and have a guarantee for the next limited character).
