r/Tools 11h ago

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I commonly use needle nose locking pliers for removing screws with stripped heads. It would work so much better if they had teeth on the tip at 90° to where they normally are so the pliers could be used vertically and grip the head better with less damage to the workpiece (yeah, I know that isn't really a concern with these crappy deck boards but I don't always work with such degraded stuff). Anyone know of any such tool?

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u/Upbeat_Ant6104 11h ago

Engineer makes locking screw removal pliers. PZ-64. I don't have them but have been close to ordering several times.

Edit: also PZ-66, a pointier version

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u/Cespenar 10h ago

They're awesome 

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u/AdEastern9303 9h ago

Yep. Have a pair of the Engineers and they are great.

https://a.co/d/0g1iDkEH

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u/old_guy_AnCap 9h ago

That looks like the right answer. Thank you.

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u/rael9 11h ago

Not aware of locking pliers like that, but Vampliers have that, as well as some Knipex pliers. I use my Vampliers to get out stripped screws all the time.

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u/Murky-Practice4413 11h ago

I have the generic version from harbor freight.. surprisingly good. Not locking though; I would love some vice grips with jaws like this.

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u/old_guy_AnCap 11h ago

I'm getting old enough and no longer in such shape to reliably have the grip strength for that to work consistently.

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u/StandByTheJAMs 10h ago

Now use your larger locking pliers to clamp the vampliers shut... 😄

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u/Barefoot_Mtn_Boy 2h ago

Know what you're going through. 7️⃣9️⃣❗️ Have you used those needle-nose vise grip that has a 90° bend at the tip? Those cut down damage to the surface of the wood! I have had one for, well, decades but I don't remember where I got them. I think it was one of those "industry specific" stores like HVAC, Grainger, or something like that. I had every thing I needed for HVAC, welding, and plumbing. I believe I got them from a place that sold sheet metal tools. Just imagine a pair of needle nose locking pliers with the very tip bent over 90 degrees. They locked on to bolts and screws that had stripped heads and made it easy to turn the damaged screw out without scratching surfaces!

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u/GearOne4238 8h ago

I've got mine.

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u/SpaceFunkRevival 11h ago

Vampliers or similar is what you're looking for.

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u/Ruckerone1 11h ago

I usually just use regular vice grips straight in from the top. There's usually enough torque to be able to back it out, but you could stick a screwdriver or something in the jaws if you needed more.

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u/old_guy_AnCap 11h ago

I think you're right for larger vice grips with less pointed jaws. But those are difficult to get a bite when the fastener is flush with the workpiece. The needle nose flex off the fastener when used in such a fashion.

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u/Ruckerone1 11h ago

If it's flush I'd expect any kind of pliers solution to scratch the work piece. I usually end up drilling the head out if preservation was super important.

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u/Grease_Monkey_78 10h ago

It means more tools but I put an adjustable wrench / shifters across the jaws to lessen the flex. I hate the thought of torquing the pliers sideways stressing the pins.

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u/8u7n3r 10h ago

I have beaten brakes off with my EAGLE GRIPS they are the toughest ive ever wrapped my hands around... shame malco is out of biz & these sell for collector premium now... not that the two sets I got will ever die ha

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u/4nabulax 5h ago

I found a pair made expressly for this purpose in an unexpected place: The “hardware aisle” at the imported-from-Japan store called Daiso. They’re not locking, but have a strong type of box joint and work surprisingly well.

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u/jspurlin03 3h ago

They’re basically generic Vampliers, the ones at Daiso.

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u/buboop61814 11h ago

I think knipex twin grip pliers are exactly what you are looking for other than they are not locking. Been looking to get a pair for the exact same reason. Those or vampliers

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u/5m0k3y76 10h ago

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u/old_guy_AnCap 9h ago

Yeah. That's what someone else suggested. I think that will work.

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u/damngoodham 8h ago

Isn’t it exactly what you were asking for?

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u/old_guy_AnCap 3h ago

It appears to be but I haven't tried it yet. Not going to get too enthusiastic over it until I do.

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u/imreallynotthatcool 9h ago

I have an old Miluwakee chuck that's kinda torn up. I just tighten that bitch down on whatever stripped screw I need that's sticking out like your picture and it usually works.

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u/old_guy_AnCap 9h ago

I have done that when I'm working on quite a few. Like disassembling an entire deck. Usually want something simpler when I'm dealing with one or two.

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u/belsaurn 8h ago

I just use my cordless drill chuck, it clamps the screw head good enough to pull out 3" deck screws without any damage to the underlying wood.

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u/NecroJoe 5h ago

Looks like you need this tool that was advertised to me on social media. 🙄

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u/Deluxoflux 5h ago

Keep in mind, locking pliers are directional. That is, they grip better rotating in 1 direction than the other. As shown, those pliers are oriented to tighten the screw and less effective at removing it.

Small pipe wrenches with serrated jaws can be super effective at turning round, difficult to grip parts. It's why they exist. They just get ignored in a market flooded with the latest wiz-bang junk.

Also, look into Swedish Pattern pipe wrenches. They are simply outstanding: a best of both worlds combo of pipe wrench and pliers.

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u/ChaosGoodNews 11h ago

I think the from VIM would work. They have vertical grooves to bite into the heads of those stripped out fasteners. The picture doesn't show it but you can find a video that does: https://www.jerseydiscounttool.com/product-page/vim-2-pc-fastener-removal-locking-plier-set-5-7

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u/buildyourown 10h ago

I had the same search for the same application. I did find a small pair but they didn't work great. The Knipex Twin-grip is what you want.

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u/mutt63 10h ago

Just use regular medium vice grips into the head or broken threads like i do. Easiest way out there is unless u are saving the plank. Then i might need an easy out for threaded fasteners. To at least get it about the board.

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u/Cespenar 10h ago

Yes. Engineer brand, they're great 

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u/3amGreenCoffee 10h ago

To clarify some of these suggestions, Engineer and Vampliers are the same exact products in different colors. Engineer pliers are generally cheaper for the exact same quality from the same factory.

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u/Gregory_ku 10h ago

I just clamp on the head with a set of short jaw Vise grips. Could never get needle nose to grab worth a shit.

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u/Darth_wenis 9h ago

I just break em off and leave em buried in there. Punch as needed.

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u/Suburban--Dad 9h ago

An angle grinder can change the direction of those teeth.

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u/Two_takedown 9h ago

Parrot jaw vice grips?

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u/Moist-Carpet888 9h ago

Not that im aware of in the way your looking for from how I understand, they dont make them with a side divet. That said vampliers are pliers made to remove screws, otherwise you could try adding material to the grips with a welder if you have one and shape it how you need

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u/Tonicart7 7h ago

Couldn't you just grind some teeth the way you want it?

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u/Extreme_Leg8500 7h ago

Vampliers definitely has visegrips like that

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u/MastodonFit 7h ago

I own several sizes of 45° angled tip,needle nose vice grips. Bought 20 years ago,not sure if they are available new or not.

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u/LancelotD 6h ago

3 peaks, Japanese brand, they make long nose and regular vice grip with the extractor end

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u/Bright-Swing1788 6h ago

If i ever needed a tool I made one.

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u/Disastrous_Foot_5723 38m ago

Well this doesn't have to do with a tool ur looking for but a different way to take the screw out as long as the head is showing out of the wood you can take a drill open the chuck all the way were you can put it over the screw head then tighten the chuck jaws around the screw head then tighten it down and it will unscrew it even works when there bent or broken as well and saves a lot of time as well if u have abouch to take out

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u/TeamFoulmouth 11h ago

Close em up tight, put the jaws about 25% into a vice, make em glow and bend em to a 90°..once they've cooled, throw em in the oven at 300° for about a half hour to temper.

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u/DerekP76 8h ago

If you heated and didn't quench, there is no need to temper, its already annealed.

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u/Independent_Page1475 10h ago

Someone once showed me how to use a pair of diagonal wire cutters to remove screws with a stripped head. He called them Mississippi vise grips.