r/Tools 11h ago

Fireball vs Siegmund Table Test?

Hello all, I’m sure some of you have seen the fireball tools vs siegmund tools fixture table tests on YouTube. I am just wondering what people actual consensus is about how the test went because all I can find is people glazing fireball in the comments but I’m not so sure I am satisfied. Honestly at first glance I was absolutely convinced that fireball table was far superior but then I started looking around online at the two brands and now I feel completely misled in a way.

When fireball tested the tables he said he paid around the same price for both of them and while that may be true I think he knew exactly what he was doing.
Fireball put up his absolute best table he has against a mid range siegmund 22 table. And at that he didn’t even choose to test the 22 table with the longer extended side plating and this can play an absolutely huge role in affecting the lateral stiffness of the table which was 90% of the complaints he had. I personally think maybe the testing would have gone a little bit different in many aspects just from that alone.
(Just as a reference for people to fact check me easiest way is to look for the “PL” at the end of the part numbers on the tables)

In my opinion a true test would be fireball table vs siegmund 28series . These tables can be found for around 13,500$ with a fixture kit so it’s in the same price range as the fireball.
Just looking at some basic specs, the top plate alone goes from .75 on the 22series to 1-1/16 on the 28mm table.

I have a couple other opinions about the products testing and honestly I could probably write 5 more paragraphs but just for the general purpose of this post I’m just disappointed in the way the testing was done. On that same note the comparison video siegmund made seemed like a sham to me also. Even on the video of him testing the dragon wagon i have the same exact complaint. He is picking a product not meant to be in the same class or equal to his. I love the fireball products and they seem to be really really solid but meh now it just seems like he’s trying to sell me something with unfair tests. Let me know what you guys think. Im not knocking the products at all, just the testing and comparison aspects.

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