r/TwinCities • u/Minneapolitanian • 1d ago
[CBS Minnesota] Twin Cities family that fled Ukraine prepares to self-deport: "We are becoming illegal here"
https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/ukraine-family-self-deports-eden-prairie-minnesota/368
u/wandpapierkritiker 1d ago
fuck this administration.
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u/immortalyossarian 23h ago
Start calling it a regime. They don't administer anything.
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u/wandpapierkritiker 23h ago
they administer a lot of heartache and pain for the non billionaire class…
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u/secondarycontrol 1d ago edited 21h ago
Fuck Republicans - child raping corrupt vicious stupid greedy assholes the lot of them - or, to be fair, some are just people that support child raping corrupt vicious stupid greedy assholes for fun.
Which almost seems worse than being a child raping corrupt vicious stupid greedy asshole, doesn't it?
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u/secondarycontrol 8h ago
And how many of them are the current president of the United States?
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u/Jonnyscout 8h ago
Oooh! I know!
None of them.
Trump's name is mentioned more times in the epstein files than Harry Potter in all of his books or God/The Lord and Jesus in the Bible combined. Now add them together another 30 times. Still more times than that. The only name in the Epstein Files mentioned more than Trump's is Epstein. Trump is mentioned more than Ghislaine fucking Maxwell.
We're not nearly mad enough.
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u/saelvaria 7h ago
Whataboutism aside, dems don’t fight against making 18 the age of consent/marriage
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u/ModerateDFLer 1d ago
I don’t understand how constantly fucking with all these different groups of people does anything to make the lives of MAGA voters one iota better in any tangible way.
MAGA voters must really be the absolute dumbest cruelest shittiest people on earth.
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u/Duxtrous 1d ago edited 22h ago
It doesn't change their lives at all, but the big man on the television told them it will. There is no thought with these policies and the observation is as shallow as it seems. It's just mass manipulation.
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u/PostIronicPosadist Kingfield 1d ago
Ukraine is seen as a Democrat issue, therefore Ukrainians bad.
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u/Oh__Archie 22h ago edited 22h ago
Remember when the Russians and communists were the bad guys....?
Hey - wait a second...
🧐🤔
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u/earthman34 1d ago
When you're a shitty person with no creativity, intelligence, or useful ideas, your only real outlet is reveling in the misery and suffering of others. That's what MAGA does, basically. I remember reading, a long time ago, something by a person who lived through the Nazi era in Germany, before WW2. They said that the Nazis never had an actual plan or political program. What they had was grievances and hate, exactly like Trump/MAGA. That was their program, that's what they ran on. Trump's entire 2nd term is based on grievances and hatred of immigrants, "liberals", LGBT, and now, they've even dragged out communism as a bogeyman.
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u/tallman11282 1d ago
Far right politicians have pushed the narrative that immigrants are the cause of most of the problems a nation faces for decades upon decades and using propaganda and things are able to persuade people that that is true even though there is no evidence that immigrants are the problem nor the fact that once the immigrants are removed their lives have never once gotten better.
The Nazis did it as have many other far right systems. Fascism requires that there be groups to blame for the problems facing society and immigrants make an easy scapegoat for them.
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u/Gasman18 1d ago
MAGA voters want other people to suffer more than them, not to reduce their own suffering or improve anything.
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u/HahaWakpadan 1d ago
It seems that the EU will stop accepting Ukrainian men of conscription age (25-60) this coming March unless they can prove they left Ukraine legally, or can prove they already served in the war and were discharged.
https://tvpworld.com/94356539/ukrainians-subject-to-draft-to-no-longer-get-eu-protection
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u/LetsJerkCircular 1d ago
They seem pretty cool about it, all things considered. That must’ve been awful living here during the ICE invasion. Says they’re self-deporting to help their chances of being able to return in the future. Hope they can find somewhere in Europe in the meantime, like they said.
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u/TheOutsider_114 1d ago
In 64 days we all get the chance to undo some fatal damage that has been done to good people in good communities.
Minnesota is my home, and it is a place that welcomes those from all backgrounds (except for the cunts in ICE or Donny Dumpy Pant’s shit stained administration).
To those of you who live here (and who want to live here) and who actually love your neighbors, get ready to do some good work for our friends and neighbors.
To those of you who have invaded my home with your weak, feckless, and cowardly hate? Get the fuck out of MY home, away from MY friends and neighbors. YOU ain’t welcome, and in 64 days time I’m sure us real Minnesotans will show you exactly what we mean.
I Love you friends, stand tall, stand proud 👊 🖤
~114
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u/trash-juice 1d ago
Hes turned our welcoming country into a danger zone for the disenfranchised, the refugees
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u/PostIronicPosadist Kingfield 1d ago edited 23h ago
We're partially responsible for getting them into this war, we should be at the very least partially responsible for the refugees the war has inevitably created. That's American fascism to a tee however; never taking responsibility for their own actions and demanding everyone else take responsibility instead. It's like if "nuh uh" were an ideology.
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u/United-Vermicelli-92 22h ago
This trump admin has ruined republican party, trump dragged all of the republicans to hell with him.
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u/Oh__Archie 22h ago edited 21h ago
And yet they would still vote for him again.
Edit: 100% welcome the downvotes but damn, did it really need to take you all 10 years to figure this one out?!?
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u/itsamamaluigi 8h ago
The Republican party has been rotten since way before Trump. He just gave them permission to be open about how awful they are.
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u/lazys_world 20h ago
Republicans were always bad. They have always wanted to ruin the lives of working people in pursuit of the interests of the elite.
Y'all can say it. Who cares if you sound "biased".
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u/RainbowBullsOnParade 5h ago
The republican party was a violent, racist, fascist shitstain for decades before Trump arrived. All he did was give them what they always wanted: a dictator.
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u/Significant-Mind-964 40m ago
PSA - Tiger Plumbing Heating & Air (his employer) is very MAGA. They were listed on Public Square at one point and that's when I stopped using them. Kind of ironic in this case.
For those not in the know - Public Square was a very pro MAGA and Conservative business listing platform that businesses put themselves onto. Do not use Tiger or their services if you don't want to support that.
Anecdotally, one of the worst HVAC companies I've ever dealt with for pricing. Fuck Tiger.
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u/NytronX 23h ago
That husband will literally be rounded up and thrown into a van within the opening week of him returning to Ukraine. It is brutal what they are doing to young men over there. She will likely be a single mother in a few years.
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u/glizard-wizard 19h ago
The projection that comes out of Russian propaganda is honestly shameless
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u/NytronX 17h ago
Oh snap, really? CBS News is owned by Israel though, don't they prefer Ukraine? Maybe this one didn't get visibility on Bari Weiss's desk?
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u/glizard-wizard 17h ago
Your lack of ability to understand what Im saying is telling
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u/NytronX 16h ago
Oh you're saying I'm the propagandist? Nah, I was ride or die with Ukraine until zelenski started aligning with netanyahu and all these clips on social media of men in vans abducting young Ukrainian men. The same thing is also probably happening in Russia. That entire war is just to lose-lose situation. There is no good side bad side anymore. It's very muddy. It's a disaster. I don't have a dog in that race.
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u/Current-Function-729 1d ago
It’s good they’re returning, Ukraine has major manpower shortage and needs the workers.
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u/SingleVertebra 1d ago
Do you read the article? They don’t want to go to an active conflict zone
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u/Current-Function-729 1d ago
It’s necessary though
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u/Thehealthygamer 1d ago
You go fight there if you think its so necessary, rather than volunteering others to go die in a war. They're accepting foreign volunteers.
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u/Current-Function-729 1d ago
I agree the west should do more. That doesn’t mean this isn’t also good. I’ve donated a lot of money, personally.
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u/ProfessionalActive94 1d ago
You should go fight instead. Don't advocate for others to fight when you are unwilling.
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u/Current-Function-729 1d ago
I’m not saying he has to enlist. I’m saying Ukraine needs his contribution to GDP more than the US does.
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u/Thehealthygamer 1d ago
So, you're not willing to go fight in this "necessary war" in which you're happy to volunteer other people to go fight in is what I'm hearing.
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u/Current-Function-729 1d ago
I’m not even saying he had to enlist. I’m saying Ukraine needs their contribution to GDP more than the US does.
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u/im-ba 1d ago
You're just backpedaling. You want them to be in the meat grinder but you're too afraid to double down on it
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u/Current-Function-729 1d ago
I want no one to be in the meat grinder.
War is an affront. However, you can’t just wish it away.
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u/Thehealthygamer 1d ago
You've seen the conscription gangs right? It's like ICE except they're grabbing men to forcefully conscript to send to the front lines. This family would almost certainly lose their father, to years of military service in the best scenario or to a body bag in the most likely scenario.
And, that's worth it, because Ukraine needs the GDP contribution?
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u/Current-Function-729 1d ago
You’re really comparing a country trying to defend its democracy to ICE now? Shameful.
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u/Thehealthygamer 1d ago
Lmao oh you are so fuckin deluded, I bet you think America just has a trump problem too eh and it'll all be fixed once he gets voted out?
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u/DasaniDestroyer 1d ago
lol. I want to believe this is a troll. So you’re saying, it’s good they are have to return to an active war zone. Of course you don’t mention that and say it’s because they need workers.
Good bait mate. Hope you’re a bot
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u/Current-Function-729 1d ago
It sucks being invaded. Yes. That doesn’t somehow magically make manpower not relevant.
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u/ThatBCHGuy 1d ago
The article says they're going to Europe, not UA. At least for as long as they're allowed to stay there.
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u/BoysenberryKey5504 19h ago
No it isn't. It isn't good for anyone to return to an active war zone. I think it's very sad they feel like they have to leave Minnesota. Very sad. They should feel safe and welcome here.
And what happened to Trump's campaign promise to end that war in his first week in office? What a buffoon. Instead he starts new wars. I would be livid if I had actually been swayed to vote for him. That danger has passed obviously. B***tard.
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u/TruckStopSigns 1d ago
I'll never understand why other Redditors insist on engaging with trolls. Block this guy and move on.
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u/wandpapierkritiker 1d ago
but…they’re returning because of the conditions here, not because of the conditions there. you point may be valid, but it doesn’t fairly apply to this situation. there’s no question they would stay here if it weren’t for this government. imagine building a new life, then watching it disappear in an instant and returning to a place of uncertainty (regardless of familiarity). even if/when they do return, they will have to nearly start over yet again - which is what they’re also about to experience returning to the Ukraine. your comment seems to ignore the utter failure to humanity that our country has become.
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u/Rockguy101 1d ago
This whole situation makes me sick to my stomach. I can't imagine having to uproot your whole family and then having to be forced back into a war zone. Hopefully they can find a place that will take them like Hungary if they can't stay here. I remember when I was in Budapest they had Ukrainian welcome centers that will help Ukrainians get situated.