Also just learned that copperfields dad worked at Roswell air base during the the Roswell crash. (From the Area 52 podcast with Richard doty). No correlation necessarily, just a weird side note
Plenty of celebrities with weird family connections like Stewart Copeland’s, the drummer from The Police, Dad helped form the CIA and was involved in the Coups in Syria and Iran
Holy shit. When I was a kid I went to see him, and someone came out and asked my parents if I (just me) wanted to go backstage, meet him, and be in the act. I said no because I was shy af (and also thought he might really be a practitioner of the dark arts. Little did I know, apparently...)
I remember the kid who did go, they were backstage pretty much the whole time and only came out for the last couple minutes of the show. My parents literally just brought this up over the weekend saying "I'm glad you didn't go, you would have missed the whole show!" Yeah mom, me too. jfc
What copious amount of cocaine? Those little bits scattered around that table/countertop? Thats a minuscule amount of snow for even the most novice skier. Thats a couple lines each, at most.
I was on stage with Copperfield during one of his illusions back in the 80's. I used to send him my illusion ideas to the "Young Magician's Club" when I was in my young teens (two of them he directly nicked). I even bought a word processor to type them all up so they looked "professional" and would get read by him directly, not just his staff.
Now I'm utterly ashamed to admit I looked up to him as an idol back then.
You’re not alone. You can never know at the time and you can’t not have idols. All that matters is what happens after you find out that someone is a monster.
This post is where I found out about him and this link. I have a signed photo from him I got after I was on stage for an illusion in 2011 which I held in high regard until today.
This post is where I found out about him and this link. I have a signed photo from him I got after I was on stage for an illusion in 2011 which I held in high regard until today.
I've seen him live about 20 times live in my life, and have been doing magic myself since I was 6 years old, when I used to ride my bike to the local libraries and devour the shelves of magic books from left to right for years.
I have a long history of magic and following him and others (I grew up in the era of Harry Blackstone, Doug Henning, etc., not David Blaine).
It's sad to see and hear these people had this other side to them. Very sad.
What happened to the Epstein File Transparency Act #1? I'm beginning to think this administration isn't very transparent if we need two transparency acts
then this is all we can say back to them and theirs. idfk. they're leaving us very few peaceful options at this point. and like jfk said: "those who make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable."
I'm sure there's more to it than this, but anything said on the House floor is protected speech, meaning he can't be sued for libel or slander or anything else. Given how frequently the administration and its cronies turn to the courts for succour, it's not unreasonable to think they'd sue to silence him if they could.
"Out of the many EDR bypass techniques, the most prominent one is the “Direct Syscall” technique. To achieve maximum stealth, attackers frequently use it in conjunction with other evasion techniques, as it is very hard to detect and differentiate between malicious and benign use of it."
Non-Techies: EDR is Endpoint Detection and Response; think of it as a combined antivirus and policy enforcement engine. The rest of the comment is Steve Bannon's "Flood the Zone" strategy but for penetrating IT systems.
“Monotronic, according to Elkholy, is where instruments flow together as a single, unified source, emphasizing a collective, “tribal” approach to music-making where the group is prioritized over the individual.”
Jes Staley, Leon Black, Les Wexner, David Copperfield, Lapo Elkann, Tom Pritzker, Glenn Dubin, Frédéric Fekkai, Eduardo Teodorani-Fabbri, Jean-Luc Brunel, Daniel Siad, Ramsey Elkholy, Prince Andrew, and Lesley Groff
Kind of surprised who I don't see - Alan Dershowitz, Bill Barr... but i guess staying away from lawyers was a safer choice. I hope Massie isn't suicided, I respect what he has done for transparency - despite being Republican. Too bad his fellow Rs turned on him...
"I am not suicidal. I eat healthy food. The brakes on my car and truck are in good shape. I practice good trigger discipline and never point a gun at anyone, including myself. There are no deep pools of water on my farm and I’m a pretty good swimmer."
Here’s one of the big ones they forgot to say- Dean Kamen. He’s the cofounder of FIRST robotics which has like 40,000 kids all around the world. FIRST said we did an investigation and found nothing untowards but Dean had to step down. That was something that was awful for a wonderful organization.
I think that besides the obvious child rape abd trafficking the financial crimes shoukd be just as throughly investigated. And part of me witb tin foik hat thinks that throwing all them piles out there in that there manner is a way to misdirect and actually bury the financial crimes in the scandal of the much harder to prove/prosecute sexual abuse charges. But hey, may be one day we wil have competent people in charge who will eliminate bug money in politics and actually go after those who committed crimes with full force of the law.
Jes Staley — American banker and former CEO of Barclays. Before Barclays, he spent decades at JPMorgan, including running its private bank. His relationship with Epstein has received especially intense scrutiny; Staley has acknowledged a close professional and personal relationship with Epstein and recently testified to Congress about it. WWikipedia+1
Leon Black — American billionaire private-equity investor and co-founder/former CEO of Apollo Global Management. He paid Epstein at least $158 million between 2012 and 2017 for purported tax and financial advice. Black has denied wrongdoing and said he did not know about Epstein's criminal conduct. WWikipedia+1
Les Wexner — American billionaire businessman who founded L Brands and built the retail empire that included Victoria's Secret and Bath & Body Works. Epstein was Wexner's longtime financial adviser and confidant; Wexner later said Epstein had stolen money from him and severed their relationship. FForbes
David Copperfield — The famous American magician and illusionist, born David Seth Kotkin. He's known for spectacular stage and television illusions, including his famous Statue of Liberty illusion, and has won numerous Emmy Awards and Guinness World Records. He is not a financial or modeling-industry figure; he's on this list because of his documented social connection to Epstein. DDavid Copperfield+1
Lapo Elkann — Italian businessman, designer and socialite from the enormously wealthy Agnelli family, the family historically associated with Fiat. He's the grandson of Gianni Agnelli and brother of John Elkann. He founded businesses including Italia Independent and Garage Italia Customs. WWikipedia
Tom Pritzker (Thomas Pritzker) — American billionaire businessman and member of the Pritzker family. He is chairman/CEO of The Pritzker Organization, the family's investment/merchant-banking business, and was executive chairman of Hyatt Hotels until 2026. His contacts with Epstein have become a subject of renewed scrutiny; he stepped down as Hyatt's executive chairman in February 2026 citing the Epstein connection. PPritzker Organization+1
Glenn Dubin — American billionaire hedge-fund manager and co-founder of Highbridge Capital Management. He later founded Engineers Gate and runs the investment firm Dubin & Co. He and his wife Eva were part of Epstein's social circle. WWikipedia
Frédéric Fekkai — French celebrity hairstylist and beauty entrepreneur. He founded the luxury FEKKAI hair-care brand and became famous for his salon at Bergdorf Goodman and for styling celebrities and fashion figures. FFekkai+1
Eduardo Teodorani-Fabbri — Italian corporate executive and member of the Agnelli family's extended circle. He spent much of his career at Fiat/New Holland/CNH, including as a senior vice president, and has held various corporate board positions. His mother, Maria Sole Agnelli, was Gianni Agnelli's sister, making him a relative of the Agnelli/Elkann family. EEXOR+1
Jean-Luc Brunel — French modeling agent/scout who ran Karin Models and later founded MC2 Model Management, which received financial backing from Epstein. Brunel was accused by multiple women of sexual abuse and of facilitating the exploitation of young women. French authorities charged him with offenses including rape of minors; he died by suicide in a Paris prison in 2022 while awaiting trial. WWikipedia
Daniel Siad — A Swedish-French/Algerian modeling scout. The 2026 release of Epstein documents brought him considerable attention because DOJ material and communications identified him as a model scout/recruiter who supplied Epstein with information about women. Siad denied that he knowingly participated in criminal activity and said he believed he was arranging legitimate modeling opportunities. He died near Paris in July 2026; the circumstances were initially undetermined, with his lawyer saying it was a heart attack. TThe Guardian+1
Ramsey Elkholy — A much less publicly prominent figure than most of the others. He was involved in model scouting/recruitment and music, and Epstein's released emails show him communicating extensively with Epstein about models and arranging introductions. For example, FBI-released correspondence shows Elkholy sending Epstein information about modeling contests and discussing finding women for Epstein's consideration. YYirah.fi+1 Important: I would be cautious about stronger claims concerning Elkholy because the public biographical information about him is much thinner than for the other people on your list.
Prince Andrew (Andrew Mountbatten Windsor) — Formerly Prince Andrew, Duke of York, the younger brother of King Charles III and son of Queen Elizabeth II. He served in the Royal Navy and later undertook official royal duties. His longstanding friendship with Epstein became a major scandal, particularly following allegations by Virginia Giuffre. Andrew denied the allegations and settled Giuffre's civil lawsuit in 2022 without admitting liability. In 2025, he relinquished his remaining royal titles and honors. PPeople.com+1
Lesley Groff — Epstein's longtime executive assistant. She worked for him from 2001 until his arrest in 2019 and handled an enormous amount of his scheduling, travel, communications and appointments. Her name appears extensively throughout the FBI/DOJ records. She was never criminally charged and has maintained that she did not know about Epstein's sexual abuse. YYirah.fi+1
The big picture
There are actually several very different groups represented here:
But if he did say Trump theyd point and go "SEE WITHC HUNT, TRUMP DERANGEMENT SYNDROME, TRUGGERED LIB!!!!" granted they're already doing that but it's just giving them more ammo
Here’s the difference “if he’s guilty why didn’t Massie list him?” There’s no way to answer that only Massie can. If he does list him if they claim witch hunt you can point to evidence why it’s not
The steelman for Massie omitting Trump (and also Clinton and Gates, who're pretty widely considered 'obvious' co-conspirators) is that folks digging into the folks he names now will give credibility that he is providing legitimate info.
Then when he goes and says "yeah, Trump's in there too" in a few months, it's slightly harder to claim he's lying. It'll shake just a few more folks from the cult.
If he does list him, Trump would be dumb enough to sue for defamation and it would trigger an investigation where evidence can be brought.
They’d probably seal the whole thing but…guilty vs not guilty would say a lot.
Ah who am I kidding, Republicans would squeeze themselves through the tiniest hoops to justify why Massie would be not guilty for defamation without it proving Trump as a pedo
If the goal is trying to convince people riding tiny Trump cock to get off, that’s not gonna work out so great for you. So leaving Trump off the list because they claim Trump witch hunt is just pointless.
Trump is protected by the cabal and has demonstrated his propensity for revenge so saying his name aloud would A) be lumped with internet hysteria and discredited, and B) might very likely result in the Cheeto in Chief actually calling a hit squad on him. The tactic could be that some of the named will squeal in such a way that he can no longer be protected.
I have a few MAGA friends on my FB (people I actually know, some family). I’ve noticed when they post MAGA memes they are getting fewer and fewer ‘likes’. One in particular pushes the memes hard. She has gone from 40-50 likes down to less than 10. That gives me hope.
I'm not really defending Masse here, but considering he's already burned his entire career I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt that what he actually wants is an investigation into this because of what he's seen, and coming from his position and the people he is directly trying to communicate to, doing that would nullify any attempt to build pressure.
Personally I don't think it matters that much and still ultimately think it's cowardly, but he is legitimately putting pressure on the Epstein investigation specifically so he basically gets to clear the GOP bar by default.
That’s the one question I always have about these things that MAGA loves to call fake. If the whole thing is a fake scam, why do people around the conspiracy keep dying?
The same thing happened back with the whole RussiaGate thing, I think like 15+ people tied to the conspiracy around the world conveniently ended up “dead”
Well the whole RussiaGate thing was far from fake— several people close to Trump were tried and convicted, and Muller said the reason he didn’t charge Trump was that the DoJ wouldn’t let him, and he recommended impeachment.
Maybe so, but I imagine he was useful because getting another frontman for the operation couldn't be easy. And lets be honest with ourselves, this shit didn't stop with Epstein.
Really because he agrees with Trump on almost everything, with Epstein and Israel being the only exceptions.
Great for him being one of the very few people whose loyalty to Trump wasn't paid in kind who actually did something about it, but absent a couple areas he still isn't the best dude.
That looks like a list of judges at the Elite Teen Models Look of the Year 1991 competition. All that’s missing is trump providing the hotel rooms for all the pervert “Judges”.
It's scary how many model scouts are on that list of names Massie read off. I remember that being a thing pushed in popular culture when I was younger, girls wanting to be models and be scouted for major magazines and spreads and all the other 'glamourous' places they want to show up at. Makes me sick to think that it could all have been people making shows encouraging young girls to almost traffic themselves by way of making it seem fun and exciting.
Hopefully this is just the start. Rattling cages. Guilty people are paranoid. Giving them something to stress about might make someone expose themselves.
I don’t trust Massie to really follow through though. He seems like he’s more talk than walk
Jes Staley - American Banker,. Member of JP Morgan, ex-CEO of Barclays. His Daughter continually communicated with Epstein after he "cut ties". He traveled to little st james.
Leon Black - Investor. ex-CEO of Apollo Global a private equity firm(he still owns 7% of the company). Currently his family owns Elysium Management, an office solely dedicated to his familys wealth. He's still worth 14 Billion Dollars, and is accused of much misconduct. Including "repeatedly using a 16 year old with down syndrome to produce children which were taken by Ghislaine maxwell" (unconfirmed, merely accused). Leon Black owns one of the 4 existing version of "the scream" by Munch. Legacy of ill gotten money: Leon's Son Benjamin Black is the current CEO of the United States IDFC, appointed by the president in 2019, which is a government funded organization to invest in other countries.
Les Wexner - Well researched, I won't bother.
David Copperfield - The Stage Magician. He owns a private resort called the "islands of copperfield bay" where many rich and powerful people have stayed. He is worth Hundreds of millions.
Lapo Elkann - Founder, Chairman and majority shareholder of Italia invependant group, on the board of directors of Ferrari, He's the great grandson of the former CEO of Fiat, and still a major holder with his brother. He and his companies and family are billionaires still.
Tom Pritzker - His father created the Hyatt Hotel Chain, he is the former executive chairmen of the hotel chain. Tom also was a director of Royal Caribbean Cruises. He and his families wealth are held in private equity by the Pritzker Organization. His family still owns 23% of the Hyatt hotel chain. which means for every 4 profit Hyatt makes... 1 goes to him (loosely)
Glenn Dubin - Hedge fund Manager, Private Equity focused Capital Management Bilionaire. His current holdings are managed through Dubin and Co. LP. His Prior holdings are heavily focused around New York real estate and projects. Estimated Worth 2.8 Billion.
Frederic Fekkai - Hair Stylist for the wealthy and elites of the world.
His products and brands are managed by Blue Mistral LLC. a Holding company of which Fekkai is the CEO.
Eduardo Teodorani - A member of the agnelli family, for which the info of Lapo Elkann and John Elkann already covers.
Jean Luc Brunei - Not going to bother here, he's dead and much effort has gone into investigating this.
Daniel Siad - Same situation
Ramsey Elkholy - Lesser known, Producer, Songwriter, Musician. He frons the indietronica collective Monotronic.
Prince Andrew - I suspect everyone knows who this is.
Leslie Groff - Secretary to Epstein, Lots of documentation on who and what she was for him.
I just wrote some light investigation so people have an idea of WHY exactly that the campaign of the IN-Party relection against massie was the highest funded campaign within the party ever recorded.
There's a lot of powerful people who stand to lose a lot if the actual monetary gain that Epstein helped fuel is tracked down.
He could have done this months ago like he said he would. Back when people were upset about it. Instead he waited until now when everyone's resigned to knowing nothing will be done. The chomos in power have gotten away with it and lets be honest, probably already have another child sex trafficing operation fully underway.
Someone in this thread posted a comprehensive list explaining each person roughly 40 minutes before you posted. But, yes, 5 of them are billionaire CEOs.
He's also a horrifically racist and bigoted man who's ideal government would be a white nationalist libertarian dream so let's be careful about praising this guy too much
We can have it both ways, we can support his unyielding movement to bring justice against the Epstein class and push back against his personal policies.
Politics is rarely ever black and white, there isnt a politician you wouldnt disagree with on fundamental issues.
I agree with you but we shouldnt stop supporting him for this specific thing and muddy the waters with this stuff right now, not because it isnt important but because we see fringe issues and identity politics be weaponised by the right to dismiss and delegitimize really serious things and then go on to push to normalise pedophilia.
Fight the right fight at the right time, dont allow the right to weaponise this rhetoric to push back.
So he’s a regular run of the mill Republican asshole? I can tolerate that while we’re all focused on the goddamned pedophile Nazis currently burning down our country and several others.
This is an actual lesser of two evils situation for a change, and it’s obvious who is who.
Gosh darn right! With all the distraction shit being perpetrated…let’s start getting back to the real life stuff! People did unforgivable stuff, let’s not lose sight of that in the “fog of war”, or whatever the fuck’s going on. Bravo Thomas Massie!
Don't know muchbabout this guy but I will credit balls to him. We need more like that to start spilling the beans so to say. That he is a republican is a plus, that side is the one who NEEDS to break this wide open. Idgaf who is on this list tbh, let them all fall.
No Trump despite (1) direct witness accounts against him in the files (the files that have been released), (2) was found liable for rape in civil trial (which requires the plaintiff prove it more likely than not that the assault happened), (3) we know slept around with porn stars while his wife was pregnant, (4) bragged about grabbing women by the pussy, (5) partied with Epstein and has made countless comments about young women being hot, (6) wrote him a birthday card referencing their “secrets”, (7) was on the flight logs, (8) has been strangely soft on Ghislane Maxwell. Come on this is a joke that anyone is still sticking up for this creep.
He has direct witness accounts against him in the files (the files that have been released), was
found liable for rape in civil trial (which requires the plaintiff prove it more likely than not that the assault happened), we know slept around with porn stars while his wife was pregnant, bragged about grabbing women by the pussy, partied with Epstein, wrote him a birthday card referencing their “secrets”, was on the flight logs, has been strangely soft on Ghislane Maxwell, on and on
Probably worth noting that Tom Pritzker is related to governor JB Pritzker (cousins, I believe). I hope that relation doesn't compromise the (seemingly) good governor...
“I’m not close to my cousin, but I can tell you that it’s very important that people be held to pay the price for whatever it is that they may have done,” JB Pritzker said during an interview on MS NOW’s “All In with Chris Hayes.”
It's pretty cut and dry that he has no interest in protecting him. And as a constituent of his, and someone who has worked with him on legislation in my current role, I believe him.
And to think this is just the tip of the wrinkly chud iceberg. It didn’t stop at Epstein, it doesn’t stop at Trump, and it definitely isn’t only going on at that island. It’s everywhere. In the places you walk past without a second thought, on islands you see flying over on vacation, and with people you think are kind souls. Evil greater than most fictitious villains exist out there, the people in power just told you it only happens in stories.
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