r/allthequestions • u/uncle-ice493 • May 13 '26
Random Question š Why do people hate Mamdani?
He closed a $12B deficit in 132 days, fixed 100K+ potholes, secured millions for gig workers, fined corrupt landlords millions, raised snow workers to $30/hr, and violent crime hit historic lowsā¦
He closed a $12 billion deficit without cutting a single city service
He is proof that politicians could get a lot of shit done if they actually cared about people
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u/SuccessfulSpring3354 May 14 '26
It's almost like the wealthy propaganda is just that....? Prior to Reagan, even average Americans knew that investing into the middle class (education, infrastructure, healthcare) is a net positive and grows the economy while reducing deficits. We've let the wealthy take control of the tax code, buy all representation in government, and corporatize the media for their own benefit. 46 years later, here we are, with red hats voting for their own economic hardship and carrying water for a few billionaires.
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u/ItsAllJustAHologram š¦šŗ Australia May 14 '26
That's brilliant. It's exactly what happened.
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u/Worried_Jellyfish918 May 15 '26
Trickle down economics was the first step to fucking us, and the second was the ruling on Citizens United in 2010; now, we're here! Where everything you see is a lie and every policy decision has to be vetted first by rich assholes no one elected
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u/HunterWithGreenScale May 15 '26
Wrong. Removing the fairness doctrine AND instigating trickle-down economics, was the first step. Second step was parts of the telecommunications act of 1996, that allowed corporations to purchase other corporations outside of their industry. Then eventually came citizens united
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u/Born-Cod4210 May 13 '26
because they are told to
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u/ShhweadyBallz May 13 '26
They're 100% owned by billionaires & corporations
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u/Khutuck May 14 '26
Mamdani: Walks on water.
Fox News: āMamdani canāt swim.ā
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u/vendettaclause May 13 '26
8 decades of communism/socialism bad propaganda. Along with left wing = communism/socialism slander
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u/chucktownginger May 14 '26
By people that couldnāt define either
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u/JeromeBarkly May 14 '26
Dude it drives me insane when they call people like Chuck fucking Schumer a radical socialist leftist. Chuck is a moderate republican and so are most other corporate dems. The actual left has basically no representation outside of AOC, Bernie and a handful of others.
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u/The_Pompadour64 May 14 '26
I'm mildly positive on Mamdani, but he did not close the deficit.
He might get there, but it's effectively just theoretical right now
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u/keynoko May 18 '26
Crazy how people who never cared about deficits are suddenly very concerned about them when Democrats are in charge
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u/TheGreatMozinsky May 14 '26
He closed a $12bn defecit
No. He proposed a plan that would address a projected deficit over the next 2 years
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u/guineapigenjoyer123 May 14 '26
Over $2 billion of that is also literally delaying pension payments
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u/getterboi May 15 '26
He's not delaying pension payments. He's delaying the city's annual contribution into the pension program.
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u/Laropedeshoute May 15 '26
How is that balanced if youāre just stealing from future budgets?
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u/ChalkAndIce May 16 '26
This par for the course. Use misleading language and policy to solve problems of their own making.
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u/Design-Hiro May 17 '26
of their own making
Didnāt he inherit that debt? And it was a common reason in the past to raise New York taxes?
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u/Emptynest09 May 15 '26
This is how pension plans go bankrupt. Heās juggling funds.
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u/canine432 May 15 '26
Exactly, thereās so much disinformation about this, it doesnāt change a single thing about how pensioners are getting paid, it just changes the structure of how the govt is paying into the plans to spread it out over a few years.
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u/Business_History_733 May 15 '26
How is that going for us in CA? Oh I can answer because Iām a treasurer for a city of 40k with our own police forceā¦
Itās going fucking terrible! Gary Davisā CalPERS/CHP bullshit in the early aughts has us staring down insolvency. CalLPERS is going to sink us all.
And my guess is weāre hardly in that bad of shape, relative to other muniās.
This is not propaganda, this is straight from the horseās mouth.
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u/canine432 May 15 '26
I mean, I donāt think youāre wrong that CalPERS has become a massive strain for a lot of municipalities. But thatās also the result of decades of benefit expansion, underfunding, and bad assumptions compounding together not just any single pension restructuring measure.
I think the fair criticism is āthese tools can become dangerous if they turn into a permanent habit,ā not āevery pension smoothing measure automatically leads to collapse.ā Thereās plenty of cities where it has been useful and successful as a tool (including nyc itself in the 70s). Itās one of the largest economic centers on Earth with vastly more revenue capacity and state leverage. That doesnāt make pension risk fake, but it does make the comparison less one-to-one with a 40k person city.→ More replies (4)14
u/CtlEngr May 15 '26
It's still pushed to the next fiscal year. He didnt generate that additional revenue, just moved money around...
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u/canine432 May 15 '26
Correct, because he doesnāt have a magic money wand and has to balance the budget through a mix of cuts, taxes, state aid, and refinancing. He definitely did avoid austerity wherever possible. When you find a magic money generation wand let him know lol, I think Hochul has it in her desk locked away next to the ability to do the taxes he wants.
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u/Pollia May 15 '26
You should ask the people of Chicago how well doing hat worked out for them.
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u/swagasaurus_ May 15 '26
People have an inability to look at other examples of exactly the same thing in Illinois, Cali, etc and see how poorly itās workinh
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u/jtmr21 May 15 '26
When more than half of that comes from a bail out from the state paid for by people that live outside of New York City he didnāt balance anything
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u/CricketNo7666 May 14 '26
So, the budget piece itself is a bit of smoke and mirrors, as well as the height of hypocrisy in some ways.
Smoke and mirrors - kicking the can on mandates of reducing classroom sizes, and funding returement for government workers isnāt balancing the budget. It is just kicking the can. It comes right back to you as debt. It also has an $8 billion dollar infusion of State dollars. thatās just pushing peas around a plane, now the state needs to find the funds.
Hypocrisy - the man reduced costs in payroll to the tune of over a billion. Fast. ācutting overtimeā I believe it is called out as. Now.. when we watched a right leaning watchdog do this at the Federal levelā¦ we all but eviscerated the guy, and for good reason in my little opinion. But now we celebrate this one doing some not so dissimilar things.
I applaud someone trying to make a difference. Whatever side of the aisle. But letās be transparent about the real numbers and real long term effects, not pull a one year stunt that is projected to be right back at a $7 billion deficit within 24 monthsā¦
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u/Josh_Butterballs May 14 '26
Mamdani ran on increasing taxes on the rich. This could in theory be done by raising income tax which he does not have the power to do. The governor of NY Kathy Hochul would rather die than do anything to extract more money from the wealthy and so Mamdaniās backup plan was property taxes.
That in itself was his leverage to compel Hochul to at least give up state money. Mamdani was betting that Hochul would be so against any increase in taxes for the wealthy that she would rather just give a cash injection to the city, which she did. She gave up the money, Mamdani cedes the property tax increase plan.
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u/WoolyEarthMan May 14 '26
This raises the question: why did he run on something he has no control over?
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u/Josh_Butterballs May 14 '26
In a post truth world itās really the only way to get elected and Iād argue even before that since itās not the first time a politician has straight up lied or embellished to get elected. If you tell the painful truth youāll get āthis guy is offering very little for my vote. Why would I vote for himā whereas your opponent with lies has an inherent advantage āCuomo is promising to fix everything. Lower my taxes, and solve nyc crime the week heās in office. Mamdani isnāt offering anything but a slow, modest āsolutionā that will take years and might not even work!ā
We have already seen this works when we see how many lies Trump put out during the election. So many lies and people believed it or put their faith in it having at least a grain of truth in it.
āNo more warsā
āIāll solve the war in a dayā
āIām gonna lower the cost of groceries as soon as Iām in officeā
Paraphrasing, but you get the point. The left is calling for Dems to stop pursuing modesty and decorum because itās not working and all it really does is let the opposition steam roll over you. The reality is the average citizen eats up lies. Iām not saying what he said during the campaign trail was morally right just btw.
People donāt want the ugly truth. They want the beautiful lie. If you give them the former you donāt get anywhere near a position to try and fix it most of the time.
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u/nimvin May 15 '26
Literally Bush 1 vs Dukakis
Bush: "Read my lips no new taxes!"
Dukakis: I'll probably have to raise taxes.
Bush 1 wins the election then raises taxes.
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u/BlueBiscuit85 May 14 '26
Same reason every class president runs on "no more homework" and "free ice cream in the cafeteria"
It's a sure fire way to get votes from people who don't understand that you don't have the power to follow through.
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u/vhszach May 14 '26
Itās a bit disingenuous to say he has no control over it. He may not be the one with the direct power to make that decision, but heās demonstrating right now how he can use his position to put pressure on the person who is.
Most politicians are content to throw up their hands and say āwell it looks like I just canāt do anything about this,ā Mamdani found a creative way to use his levers of power to work toward a solution (although it isnāt solved yet, of course).
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u/jtmr21 May 15 '26
Because he knows that most voters are ignorant and uninformed, and they just read the soundbites and 5 second clips and go with it.
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u/elinordash May 14 '26
The governor of NY Kathy Hochul would rather die than do anything to extract more money from the wealthy
Hochul is running for re-election this year. It was unrealistic for Mamdani to expect her to okay a massive tax increase while she's actively running for re-election.
It is also short sighted because there is a chance NY could elect a Republican govenor.
This is what frustrates me about the voices around Mamdani- it quickly becomes "You are either with us or against us" without acknowledgement of the larger system.
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u/Shot-Toe-2884 May 14 '26 edited May 15 '26
Iām an accountant. Itās literally nothing but smoke and mirrors. A budget is just goal setting. It does not mean the issue is solved. That remains to be seen. Now comes the hard part, making the actual costs conform to that budget.
This is exactly the kind of pseudo-intellectual bullshit his followers eat up because heās got a nice smile. Literally saw an article today saying he āmastered the art of the budget.ā Itās just embarrassing. His cult will believe anything he says.
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u/Pewpewpew193 May 15 '26
Agreed, all these "facts" look good at face value, but very little digging was needed to get a better picture.
12B deficit - 75% of it alone was from a state bailout. The spending still looks to be way too much.
100 000 potholes - finding exact numbers is hard but previous 3 years, they had fixed 500 000 pot holes.
Lowest crime - the biggest year to year drop came last year under previous mayor. if a mayor dropped the murder # from 100 to 2 and then the new mayor drops it from 2 to 1. Yes hes brought it to the lowest # but previous mayor should get most of the praise.
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u/FoxForceFive5V May 15 '26
Not only smoke and mirrors but they also exaggerated the extent of the "Adams Budget Crisis" (you know it's super serial because it A-B-C!) to make it look maximally impressive when they "fixed it". Politics, gotta hate it.
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u/BoneHammer62 May 14 '26
He rcvd a $4 billion loan from the state and deferred billions in city pension payments. He didnt balance the budget. He kicked the can down the road to be some elses bigger problem.
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u/killerkingbee9 May 14 '26
This is correct. He DID NOT close a budget deficit. And the little bit of traction he made towards that followed an extremely Republican playbook. There will be lawsuits and/or complaints about the lack of services based on the limited savings he found.Ā
But we are so divided most people refuse to acknowledge the details.
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u/Apprehensive_Ad_4779 May 15 '26
Who or what was the federal watchdog that reduced overtime without removing the agency?
The Right gets criticized for removing agencies that protect consumers and raising the deficit through tax cuts. It's impressive how fast Mamdami has implemented popular policies and has balanced the budget while doing so. We've been told this is impossible for so long.
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u/DogEqual5459 May 14 '26
Propaganda mostly. But there is a smaller contingent that dislike not Mamdani, but that leftists take unverified and undetailed soundbytes as gospel and use it to inflate Mamdani.
You listed multiple such inflations here. That he closed the deficit, for instance, is untrue. He proposed a budget for the next fiscal year that had no deficit. That's not the same as actually closing the deficit. It's no more than a spending proposition for future, not the same as actually having no deficit in what's been spent. Currently, he is still spending at a deficit.
This is a massive problem in how people talk about Mamdani. He says he'll do something, then leftists do zero research and act like he's already done it. Anyone can propose a budget without a deficit. The key is what's actually in the budget versus what's been cut, and whether his predictions pan out when it's time to actually execute stuff.
Furthermore, his proposed budget leans on his own team's revenue projections, which of course they will spin positively, and a majority of his programs haven't started yet so there's no way to really gauge what he'll actually spend. Take universal pre-K. He didn't achieve universal pre-K, he achieved a pilot program with limited participants. A step in the right direction, but not the same as actually getting the thing. We won't be able to speak to the cost of the greater program until some years from now, assuming he's able to build on the pilot program.
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u/JacobStills May 14 '26
Yes. Just a few months ago there were several posts trying to credit Mamdani with the crime rate in New York being at an all time low.
Despite the fact that crime statistics are usually conducted over the course of several months and Mamdani at the time just got elected and was only in office for a few weeks.
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u/DogEqual5459 May 14 '26
Yeah, I had a couple of debates with people about that. I work in politics/policy, and so I end up debating leftists, MAGA, and everything in between with some frequency.
This is definitely a weakness of the left, albeit one that other political groups have as well; this allergy to hard details. Most of the leftists I've met couldn't care less for the details of logistics or actual execution. It's just rhetoric for many of them. You could, of course, say that about quite a few political groups in the U.S., so that may just be a broader education problem.
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u/JacobStills May 14 '26
Oh tell me about it. It's very frustrating, I've been called a "centrist" so many times because I call out bullshit from both the far right and the far left; despite the fact that I would personally classify myself as progressive. It's just in general social media is on a populism high where it's all about vibes and simple slogans.
And of course like you said a broader educational problem; it's amazing how so many don't know basic civics.
"No! Codifying a law doesn't make it immune to the Supreme court."
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u/Suitable-Gazelle-646 May 15 '26
Do you know how refreshing it is to nit pick ACTUAL policy changes from a politician instead of just arguing that the president is a pedophile. Agree or not I hope the country can actually just go back to debating actual policies instead of the shit we have right now in the white house
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u/ram-man May 14 '26 edited May 14 '26
I don't disagree, but to be fair I'd wager a whole bunch of his "critics" take whatever bullshit Republicans spew out at face value (which at face value sounds significantly more stupid) without doing anything proper research either.Ā
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u/DogEqual5459 May 14 '26
Yeah, that's certainly the case. And even if their bullshit was true, the same standards of criticism are seemingly never applied to Republican lawmakers.
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u/1nternetTr011 May 15 '26
you realize that he didn't fix anything. NY state gave more money via taxes. he didn't cut anything.
also NY by law has to have a balanced budget. every mayor has done it.
he holds a press conference saying there's a shortfall so he get people worked up then "taa daa " it's fixed.
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u/cowboy_catolico May 13 '26
Heās a Muslim and not a Republican. Thatās reason enough for a lot of folks
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u/Ok-Challenge-9409 šŗšø United States May 14 '26
Wow! Head of his P.R. campaign, are we?
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u/latache-ee May 15 '26
Only 340 million is coming from the pied de terre tax. 2.5 billion is delayed pension payments that will destroy future budgets (effectively paying for current expenses with a high interest credit card).
4 billion is coming from Albany which is essentially enabling nyc to skip a lot of their financial liability to the state in order to get this political win. Itās not a good, smart, or sustainable way to close a deficit.
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u/Lost-Humor-5964 May 13 '26
Because heās Brown and left leaning and doesnāt have a name like John, Dave, or Kyle.Ā
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u/WhereBaptizedDrowned šŗšø United States May 14 '26
Theyāre waiting for a message from a white guy wearing wraparound sunglasses in a pickup truck ranting.
BOMBDANI!!!! or some other stupid pseudonym or phrase like āLetās Go Brandon.ā Real high IQ these people.
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u/Otherwise-Bad-7352 May 13 '26
Ā he announced closing the budget deficit..what did he actually do?
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u/HatCat5566 May 14 '26
Begged for a bunch of money from NY state and fucked over pensions for nyc union workers.
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u/HatCat5566 May 14 '26 edited May 14 '26
He didn't close the deficit, he raided my teacher pension and begged the state for money. Neither of those are long term solutions and both are toxic. We have tons of evidence to see what a terrible idea turning pensions into a ponzi scheme is, he's delaying reduction in class sizes and other services on top of that, and taking money from poor new yorkers to fund NYC is the opposite of leftism.
I voted for him because he said he supports education. Now his first big move around education is to delay the promised 30k extra hires for our understaffed schools, steal from my pension, and delay reducing class sizes. Not impressed.
Antisemitism is at an all time high in NYC thanks to his embracing Hamas, his bigoted ass wife, and his bigoted hires. He's giving the green flag for Jew hatred.
I don't see what he's gotten done. He closed the deficit for 1 year IF Hochul gives him everything he wants and he raids union pensions.
I had high hopes for him, but he's turned out to be the meme Fox News presented him as.
"Your city is broke? Just beg mom for money and steal from the middle class!!" #socialism
It's like a teenager who racks up 12k in credit card debt and then his mom gives him 8k and he opens a second credit card for the other 4k and he declares he paid off his debt lol
"I did it! I paid off my credit card debt!"
I think what bugs me the most about Mamdani is how he presents himself as this class warrior, but when push comes to shove he's just another biased politician who lies through his teeth to keep his approval rating up. I expect it from MAGA, but I demand better from people I vote for.
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u/jrgkgb šŗšø United States May 14 '26
Iām not a fan of the guy but donāt hate him.
My concerns stem from the fact that his MO is very much like Trumpās, his āaccomplishmentsā just as dubious, and the fact that his supporters donāt seem inclined to ask questions or apply critical thinking to what he does.
For example: When Obama bailed out GM, we didnāt praise GM for āsolving their financial crisis.ā
Mamdani didnāt balance a budget, he got a 4 billion dollar check in the form of a bailout from the state of NY that wiped out 75% of the budget shortfall.
Iām not necessarily adverse to the bailout happening as it isnāt like he made the mess thatās being cleaned up, but portraying that as a success of his polices isnāt right either.
Iām definitely not a fan of how heās handled the uptick on antisemitism in his city, nor his apparent prioritization of events happening on the other side of the world over local concerns, plus his and his wifeās comments on those same issues.
Asking New Yorkers who pay some of the highest city taxes in the US to volunteer to shovel snow and then making it a hassle to do so was also not a great look.
Itās still early in his term but most of the promises he made in his campaign seemed impractical at best and there hasnāt been a lot of movement on them for what seem to me to be fairly obvious reasons when the promises were made.
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u/ballskindrapes May 14 '26
Because rich people own the media.
Mamdani wants to tax the rich, which wont hurt their standard of living one bit, they wont notice any changes in their day to day life.
But if people see that such approaches work to improve the daily lives of citizens (it does, every time) and proves that such approaches can make the budgets of a city work (it does, every time) then more people will want his type of politician and politics.
And the rich cant have that. They need total control over us peasants, and to keep things societally broken so they make more money and we fight amongst ourselves instead of targeting the real problem, the rich.
Thus they make their media organizations spew anti socialist and anti progress propaganda, so people vote against their best interests.
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u/Salty_Tumbleweed_491 May 16 '26
Pushing $12billion deficit down the road into the future isnāt addressing the deficit
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u/Gauntex May 16 '26 edited May 17 '26
People hate him because:
Half this country is conservative, so they naturally just hate anyone on "the other side".
Most others that hate him feel that way because he has an army of obnoxious dick riders. Saying he closed the deficit in 130 days is a great example of this, because he closed it by getting a loan, not by doing anything savvy with his policy. Claiming this as a policy success is MAGA-level puffery and causes people to hate him like they hate Trump.
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u/Goodbusiness24 May 17 '26
Itās as simple as billionaires are threatened by him so they push their endless propaganda through the media companies they control claiming heās a threat to society, when in reality any reasonable person knows billionaires are the biggest drag on society that could ever exist.
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u/Yesbothsides šŗšø United States May 13 '26
The state paid off 8 billion of the debt and heās cutting pensions for the other 4ā¦.that is not a good thing
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u/FMC03 May 14 '26
He wants to tax the rich to balance the books. But he can't, what he can do is raise property taxes, which disproportionately affects the rich more, but would still affect everyone. (While austerity measures would do the opposite, disproportionately affect the poor.)
The state governor doesn't like either option.
So I believe the state is covering it to help avoid tax increases.
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u/Barragin May 13 '26
The state...gets most of its revenue from nyc. Kind of a circular argument, no?
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u/NeighborhoodLower389 May 14 '26
Not really, the number of people in NYC is declining, as is the revenue, but the state is paying an increasing amount of its revenue to NYC. Ā Also, as the population of NYC declines, so does federal monies, while spending increases.
Education funds have dropped dramatically, as the number of students has fallen by 250,000,but the number of teachers and administrators has exploded.
Test scores have dropped even as NYC is spending over $42,000 per student per year, the highest in the nation for several years in a row, and the get what?
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u/bisonic123 May 14 '26
He closed the budget the way Newsom does in CA - magic tricks. Begged $ from Albany and pushes burden down the road for the next mayor to fix.
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u/TheCloudyHam May 14 '26
If you think he actually removed 12b in debt, youāre as gullible as those who voted for him.
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u/Inevitable-Half5547 May 14 '26
I genuinely have trouble believing he has properly closed a 12 billion dollar deficit without cutting anything. I saw his video but he says NY gained half a billion in taxes, got 2 billion out of the governor, then he says itās balanced. Did I miss the rest of the math from that video?
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u/Gain_Spirited May 14 '26
https://youtu.be/AFAYPIr_ll0?si=uyV_c8HnPXeGWEYS
Maybe mentioning this will make you hate Mamdani, but Trump actually likes him!
Trump told reporters, "We agree on a lot more than I would have thought," adding, "If he could be a spectacular success, I'd be very happy. I'll be cheering for him."
On feeling comfortable in the city: When asked if he would feel comfortable living in NYC with Mamdani in office, Trump replied: "Yes, I would, I really would, especially after the meeting. Absolutely."
On a potential collaboration: "The better he does, the happier I am. I want him to do a great job, and we'll help him do a great job."
As a conservative this threw me for a loop, but apparently Trump sees something in him. He respects him as a leader as sees potential in him. They apparently had a very good conversation and agreed on a lot of things.
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u/theoriginaltwiceler May 14 '26
Tell that to the unions...he is deferring paying their pension obligations to "balance" his budget.
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u/Aggravating_Cup_5297 May 14 '26
Itās been a whole 5 months and he hasnāt fixed all of the problems from the previous administration. He hasnāt delivered on all of his campaign promises yet either. /s
Government, by design, moves slowly. He and his team need time to figure out how things work before they can push for meaningful changes. They can only focus on a few priority items at a time as well. If they go too fast or do too much at once, they risk breaking things, burning up their political capital, implement something very poorly.
People hate him because they have been trained to hate democratic socialists.
His goal is to create a better New York for all New Yorkers. This does mean that more money will be directed to communities and programs that have been neglected, donāt really have a voice, and need it most.
It sucks for the really rich people (those that earn more than 1 million per year) because they will eventually have to have to pay more in taxes, so they are being vocal about it.
This policy shift will help the middle class as well, but most wonāt see it that way. Instead, all theyāll see is more handouts to lazy poor people paid for by everyone else.
Generally, being poor is extremely expensive, so once you are poor, itās very hard to not be poor.
If youāre curious, try to put together a 1 month budget with a part time, minimum wage salary with no employee benefits. Or find a YouTube video that has already done this for you.
Better programs for the poor -> better opportunities the poor can pursue -> more money for the poor to spend -> better chance the poor can move up to middle class -> bigger middle class -> better jobs for everyone else
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u/LonelyandDepressed27 May 14 '26
Heās brown. Country is undeducted and racist. Is it really so hard to understand?
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u/Harpua81 May 16 '26
Balanced the budget while Hogul gives 7bn state funds towards the deficit. It's not like he's so an accounting genius.
Do you have debt? If I gave you the money to pay off your debt should you get the credit for paying off the debt?
I'm rooting for the guy but y'all skip details because you so desperately want him to succeed.
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u/FudgeWifywhileIwatch May 16 '26
His budget fix is a political move of kicking the can down the road. Actually setting up a possible bankruptcy later down the road. Look at 1970ās NYC as a template.
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u/Ember_fox May 17 '26
He closed a $12B deficit in 132 days
He literally asked for two thirds of that money from the state government š it's not an accomplishment to get your governor to bail you out at the expense of, you know, all the other cities and towns in NY. He also raised ambulance expenses and delayed pension payouts which, you know, hurt poor people the most. I'm glad he made efficiency cuts and there are some genuine gains in that area, but that's only about 10% of the deficit. Hopefully this is a stepping stone towards a real solution to the deficit, but I'm not holding my breath when the majority of his "accomplishment" is a straight up bailout.
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May 14 '26 edited May 14 '26
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u/HatCat5566 May 14 '26
He's fucking over teachers and schools the hardest. I know i'm biased because I am one, but it's not just our pension. He's backing out of promises to hire more teachers (we are vastly understaffed) and cut class sizes, while also turning my pension into a ponzi scheme.
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u/HMonster224 May 14 '26
Thank you for saying this. I kept scrolling down wondering if anyone was going to bother mentioning it. And it's not just about his wife being antisemitic. The so-called "protests" in Brooklyn this week were awful and he did not say one word to condemn them for harassing and assaulting Jews. NYPD had to send 400 officers to protect Jews going into their place of worship. That should not happen in America. Mandani is NOT a friend to the Jewish community.
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u/kortochtjock May 14 '26
They were holding a land sale in a synagoge. The land is occupied land in the west bank. How can you not see that people object to that?
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u/mikeysd123 May 13 '26
Depends what you mean by āwithout cuttingā because he certainly decreased funding which is the logical definitionā¦
He āclosed the deficitā by taking a handout from mommy Kathy and youāre all sucking him off for it?
Also violent crime in NYC is extremely seasonal, weāll see how that stat holds up throughout the summerā¦
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u/Timely_Choice_4525 May 13 '26
Near record low crime rates, and longer term (over decades) the crime rates in nyc have been declining accept for occasional spikes like during Covid. Thereās no reason to think that will change, unless you know something?
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u/MaitrePuck May 13 '26 edited May 13 '26
Getting bailed out by the state, delaying pension fund payments (for firefighters, police officers, teachers and municipal workers), delaying the hiring of needed 6,000 teachers, delaying the public school class size mandate, etc.
The budget is balanced because taxpayers in 2030 will be paying for the 2027 budget. š¤
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u/Local_City_8174 May 13 '26
I donāt hate him, but Iām thankful heās not the Mayor in my town. Heās going to bankrupt NYC.
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u/SovietPekker May 14 '26
he didn't close a deficit, he took a loan from the state lol
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u/Average_Justin May 14 '26
Because itās a typical bandaid and misguided picture.
A $4B loan from the state, pension re-amortization which pushes $2.3B in costs into future years. This is called kicking the can down the road. NYC vet services faces a 13% cut as well.
Free buses - not funded
Universal childcare - started but only 2k free spots out of 12k planned.
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u/TheRiverInYou May 14 '26
Where did he borrow the money to pay off the deficit?
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u/Individual_Young4079 May 13 '26
getting a bailout via more tax money from the state isnt exactly the same as closing the defecit. I dont think most people personally hate him. Its more so we know his ideology wont work.
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u/Chunk3yM0nkey May 14 '26
He hasnt closed anything yet. Thats a proposed budget for 2027 that uses some very very generous assumptions and one time cash injections.
If Trump put out an imigration forecast for 2027 today saying that he predicted zero imigration and then fox started running stories saying Trump has fixed imigration we'd all be calling them retarded.
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u/Stoweman141 May 14 '26
All he did is move money from New York State to New York City and claimed he balanced the budget!
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u/ReadyFreddy11 May 14 '26
No he did not close a 12B deficit. Youāre delusional to think thatās true. He is trying to postpone billions of pensions payments and used many other tricks that merely make bigger problems in a couple of years. Chex abandoned all of his promises that got him elected in the process. He needs to fix the roads not potholes. He fix them over and over. Will never fix anything. So typical. No one came for those snow removal jobs by the way. Violent crime is only down because of IVE removing criminals. Other initiatives preceded Mamdani. Wake up before itās too late and read some unbiased primary sources besides the based NYT
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u/Creepy_Night_3838 May 14 '26
He absolutely did not clise that deficit, he shifted a bunch of costs to next year and is hoping on one time payouts to keep it afloat, and it's still "projected" at this point. How does he think next year is going to go?
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u/sjtomcat May 14 '26
He didnāt close a $12B deficit. The state bailed him out.
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u/OkCluejay172 May 14 '26
Personally Iām a bit wary of the roughly billion (not a typo) dollars per year of savings he claims heās going to get from ācost containingā the cityās education spending. If a Republican said that, you know exactly what that would mean.
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u/Repeat-Admirable May 14 '26
The $12 billion deficit fix isnt really much of a fix though? he's mainly delaying it.
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u/GZSyphilis May 14 '26
he definitely makes all the other politicians look incredibly incompetent. So incompetent it must be on purpose...
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u/Logical___Conclusion May 14 '26
Republicans hate that his way of governing is better for the people because it makes them look bad
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u/Mike92104 May 14 '26
Rich people hate him, and will spend millions to make you think regular people do as well.
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u/Tea_Time9665 May 14 '26
He didnt tho. He got the majority from NY state bailing NYC out. The rest from thjngs like replying pension payments.
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u/Opposite_Cold8616 May 14 '26
$8b of that 12b was direct help from New York State. Another 2.3b was from delaying city pension payments.
He didn't close the deficit, he just got the entire state to pay for it. People thinking he did anything strategic don't understand that he only kicked the can down the road.
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u/blindreddit123 May 14 '26
We need to differentiate what is actual vs projections. Letās see if he can really reduce that $12b deficit. Itās like saying i cut 5k in monthly spend by not paying my landlord and not paying for my food. I can forecast all I want this savings but until it materializes itās a bunch of bullshit
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u/MonkeyCobraFight May 14 '26
Yes, he "balanced" the budget by taking billions of dollars from the state and deferring pensions; howās the free bus promise coming š¤·āāļø
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u/IllustriousTip6904 May 14 '26
He's brown and the right is racist and assumes that if you are brown you are not qualified
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u/Soggy-Attempt May 14 '26
He said he was going to raise property taxes. Instead the state bailed him out to the tune of, let me check, $12B dollars.
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u/Timanitar May 14 '26
He didnt cut city service but part of that deal is cutting 2bil from pension funds & it is hardly guaranteed as police unions have already rejected it.
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u/DoublePersonality35 May 14 '26
According to the article I read, his method of closing the deficit is to beg NY State for state taxpayer money, and also to delay paying into the pension funds for pensions that have already been promised to city employees. Not paying into pension funds might balance the budget today, but those bills will have to be paid eventually.
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u/Save_The_Wicked May 14 '26
I don't hate him. But to be honest, he only closed the deficit by delaying payments into pension funds. I hope he fixes that soon, but that is not a great look imho.
Hope he works out for NYC. The best part about big movers, is you get to see how controversial policy changes work out when applied in the wild.
Example: "The Kansas Experiment": Its 2011; if we significantly lower taxes on business owners, they will hire more people and get the state out of the recession super fast. Result: Turns out business owners just held onto the cash and waited thing out. Causing Kansas's recovery to take significantly longer other nearby states. While also reducing educational outcomes since the revenue to run the state had to come from somewhere.
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u/TrashCapable May 14 '26
Hes very intelligent and makes other worthless mayors and lawmakers look bad by doing great work for his constituents. Oh and he is not white.
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u/Ornery-Paint-8338 May 14 '26
Rightā¦.explain that to the many business, who give you the jobs, are LEAVING New York.Ā
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u/FunOptimal7980 May 14 '26
I like him, but what does he have to do with violent crime? It's been at record lows since before he got elected.
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u/geekraver May 14 '26
The more successful he is at actually doing good, the more he will be vilified by those working for the oligarchs
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u/418-Teapot May 14 '26
They hate him because they've been told to hate him, by both parties, through propaganda and misinformation. Because if people realize that progress is actually achievable the current power structure collapses.
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u/khawk87 May 14 '26
Probably because heās a threat to their socialism boogie man
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u/SrWaterdoggy May 14 '26
If you rant and rave about how āSocialism will ruin the worldā and it turns out to really work well and improves lives, you lose credibility. He HAS to fail or pretty soon every city will have a Mamdani, then statesā¦
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u/TemperMe May 14 '26
His skin color, his religious upbringing, his party, his city, and his (according to right wing media) left leaning policy beliefs.
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u/KitchenSad9385 May 14 '26
Mamdani proposes policies that enact taxes on the wealthy instead of coddling those with the most financial resources.
They SAY that they hate this because it is unfair and a slippery slope to total communism where no one is allowed to own anything.
They REALLY hate the reasonable, measured policies that he enacts because they will solve real problems with financing government programs while NOT manifesting the apocalyptic scenarios monied interests use to gin up panic and keep the working poor desperate and compliant.
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u/Thunder_Tinker May 14 '26
Heās not white and his politics are conflated with Socialism/Communism by the current propagandized media
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u/JuiceTom May 14 '26
The only people who hate him are the oligarchs and billionaires who own and pay for all the negative media about him.
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u/oldhead-Kendrickstan May 14 '26
people believe that a pedo is better for them then someone who cares about then. love is weakeness for them.
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u/Star_Citizen_Roebuck May 14 '26
Because he's proving them wrong, and that threatens their stranglehold on power which they use to realize their greed.
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u/VaginalBelchh May 14 '26
He did not close a 12bil deficit. He is putting a plan forward that doesnāt describe how hundreds of millions will be saved, and we know many billions are just being pushed forward to future spending bills vs now. Donāt get that piece wrong, you look like a Trump dick sick just with him when you communicate this way.
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u/Impressive_Clock_363 May 14 '26
The state bailed NYC out to the tune of 8 billion dollars over 2 years. Mandani didn't perform a miracle, he didn't increase revenue nor did he cut services. He kicked the can down the road.
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u/ScienceWasLove May 14 '26
He closed the budget gap because the governor gave him $5 billion. In other words, the governor closed the budget gap. He did nothing.
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u/Blothorn May 14 '26
Most of the hate is fabricated/in bad faith, but the budget is getting overblown by his supporters. NYC, like most municipalities, is required to have a balanced budget; the $12b deficit isnāt the actual deficit run by his predecessor but the gap between already-planned appropriations and revenue. $12b was historically large, but most NYC mayors inherit and āsolveā a budget gap.
I also donāt think his methods notably praiseworthy. He didnāt eliminate social programs but he did reduce funding for them, a third of the money came from the state, and the pension restructuring seems shortsighted. Heās also leaving a substantial budget gap for his successor; he didnāt solve the deficit as much as push it down the road. In fairness, actually solving it in the long term was probably impossible without severe spending cuts; I donāt think less of his fiscal policy than any other recent mayor, but I equally think the magnitude of the praise Iāve seen recently lacks context.
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u/Ok_Organization6627 May 14 '26
Huge huge amount donāt hate him at all. Very very few hate him. Most appreciate him a lot. And some absolutely love him.
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u/joeblogs2000 May 14 '26
Iām not sure why people who will never be billionaires or even multimillionaires want to defend the ultra wealthy hoarding the wealth in this country, good on Mamdani! Taxing the second homes worth $10 million+ is fantastic
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u/Excellent-Ad-1678 May 13 '26
Heās a democratic socialist
His views on policing and public safety make him look soft on crime.Ā
Mamdani is strongly pro-Palestinian
Mamdani is Muslim with progressive views.