r/AR9 Mar 29 '23

Noteworthy posts and helpful information

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Pinning this to the top for folks joining the r/AR9 sub and as a reference for everyone.

ROF Calculator:

 
Calculates ROF based on a video with audio: https://schlarpc.github.io/rof-gui/ 

Helpful information:

 
Review the Wiki page for a primer on the 9mm AR. (It is being updated to include lots of new information.)

Blowback9 Blog:

 
Huge information resource for the AR9: Blowback9.com

[Disclosure: This site run by u/Blowback9, who is a mod in r/AR9. The site and links are not commercialized in any way. All content is free and without corporate attachments.]

General:

Super Safety Cheat Sheet 

4-step guide to make (almost) any AR9 run 100%

9mm AR build parts list (with links)

What 9mm buffer do I need??? (and spring)

Gentle Recoil System

Buffer tube lengths and PCC buffer options

HBPDW issues, OOBD with FRT

Colt Mag Adapter Information

Franklin Armory® BFSIII® binary trigger in a 9mm AR

Suppressing the 9mm AR

Ejector adjustment information:

Basic info

EPC style ejector adjustment – “Simplest Method”

Ejector Adjustment – Trim & Pivot, Heat & Bend methods

FM-9 Ejector

Endo/Exo Mag:

Endomag/Exomag video play list (YouTube) including bolt compatability tests 

Noteworthy posts about the AR9 platform:

 

4 step guide to make (almost) any AR9 run 100%

"Armorer's Class" style troubleshooting video series

9mm AR Basic Troubleshooting Diagram

Updated info about zero distance

Banshee is not blowback. It's RDB. It has very different troubleshooting

Foxtrot Mike FM9 FAQ and break in

How to: Colt/Uzi mag lower to CMMG RDB with Colt/Uzi mag lower

Buffer tube/buffer type/spacers Cheat Sheet

Gentle Recoil 9mm AR Project

Gentle Recoil Final Configurations

Tips for a newb

My experience with JP Captured Springs in an AR9

FX-9 Freedom Ordinance: how to increase blowback mass

Gun Builder's Decision Helper Worksheet

DIY: 10 Round Mean Arms Endomag in PMAG10 Magazine for 9mm CMMG RDB

R&D/KAK Style Colt Mag Adapter Disassembled Internal Details

DIY: Convert cheap A1/A2 5.56mm muzzle device to 9mm

FM9 Lower: Upper Fitment Fix

Buffer Tubes (and PDW Tubes) with a PCC - measurements/buffers

Adjusting the FM-9 ejector without a torch

Vendor Parts Websites List

Barrel & handguard fitment tool - check your handguard length before buying    

Adding to this list:

 
If you see a post that's extremely helpful, send me an IM (u/Blowback9) and I'll look into adding it to the list!


r/AR9 Dec 30 '24

No Drama! Rule#1: "Don't be a jackass. This includes baiting, fishing for reactions, or any other drama."

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r/AR9 8h ago

Help with trigger reset issue

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Hoping I could get some expertise from the group.

PSA PG9

Ran flawlessly for about 250 rounds before suppressing. Added YHM R9.

Issue only started happening after I shot about 150 rounds suppressed so I initially figured it got dirty. Brought it home, cleaned everything and same issue. I’ve cleaned it twice since then and still the same.

I’m not sure how else to describe it but the trigger feels sticky after firing. I usually hold the trigger back after firing for just a sec and when I release my finger to let it reset, it will stay back sometimes and not reset.

I can put my finger behind it and lightly push forward and it’ll reset.

I weighed the bolt (14.1 oz) and buffer (5.55 oz). From what I understand, I need to add some weight there but could that be causing issues with the trigger resetting or would I be chasing the wrong issue?

I did buy it used but it ran perfectly for a while.

Pictures show a little dirtiness from last range trip.

Let me know if there is any other helpful info/pictures.


r/AR9 11h ago

Time to build a 10mm?

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I've built a bunch of 9mm's, a bunch of .45's.

What I haven't built is a 10mm. I have a couple of 10mm handguns, none of which use Glock mags, which are the only option I've found for a 10mm PCC.

That really doesn't bother me, as obtaining six 10mm mags isn't hard at all.

I have a 10mm bolt and barrel sitting in my cart right now. Just wondering if I should pull the trigger. 10mm should get a decent boost in a 10" barrel.


r/AR9 12h ago

Extar ep9 foldability ?

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Disclaimer: I’m a noob to all this and I don’t have space/access to make a firearms workbench

Just purchased an ep9 because I was looking for a reliable out the box pcc/AR9 concept for less than 600 🫘. After thinking I’ve done all comparative research, I pull the trigger, but then realize almost every form of it folding requires some sort of dremel work (at least so far). And to add salt to the wound, I see that Panzer dropped the AP9 recently and now I’m second guessing my purchase.

First things first, anyone found a way to make an ep9 foldable without having to dremel that bolt?

Secondly, anyone try out that AP9 from panzer?

Thirdly, with the price point of the Extar, is there anything out there that compares and holds up within the AR9 space? Not to say that the polymer is a deal breaker but if I can get ep9 reliability out of an AR9 with PSA px9 price point/look then I’m all game 🤷🏾‍♂️.


r/AR9 16h ago

Shooting innovations llc barrels

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Anybody here ever done a build using a shooting innovations llc barrels? I'm about to start my first AR9 part by part build and I'm interested in one of there 12.5" ramped barrels but I also haven't been able to find any reviews of then at all. If you have any experiences please let me know how they went


r/AR9 11h ago

Wraithworks WARSCORP9 Items

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r/AR9 12h ago

FM9 or VFM9

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Hey! I'm looking to complete my FM9 foldy boi with an upper, but I'm not sure if I should get the FM9 or VFM9 upper. I know the VFM9 has a lower quality steel for the barrel and replacing it is far more difficult, but does it really matter that much? I don't plan on fiddling with it too much, perhaps adding a HUB mount for a suppressor, but would like decent quality, and the price is better.

What do you all think?


r/AR9 22h ago

Invictus Tac-9 and FRT issues

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The Tac-9 uses what looks like a standard ar lower, with a blowback upper similar to a tec-9. I want to see if it was possible to make it have an FRT, but information is scarce because its no longer made and the company is bankrupt. It looks like an ar9, and I was curious if an ARC will fit with minimal issues. The kabuto does not work for the pistol. I know that for a fact. Is there one that does? Anyone have any experience on these and FRTs?
I had this posted on FRT world, but didnt get a reply. Any information would be great.


r/AR9 1d ago

Guess we're doing magnets now

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I had been working on this magnetic buffer project for a few months, and as of a couple of weeks ago, I arrived at a configuration that I'm happy with for the time being. Since u/AddictedToComedy made a post today about a very similar project, I figured I might as well add to the conversation, and perhaps even address some of the concerns that were had in his thread.

The AR9 that I used for all of my testing is a CMMG RDB 9mm FE build with the following:

-CMMG 8" barrel with FTN5 PCC Flow (note that the lugs on my barrel extension are pretty well worn in after about 7500 rounds, and I strongly suspect the radial delay is a bit less effective than it was when the lugs were brand new, so keep this in mind if you are doing a brand new build and decide to test this buffer system).

-Lightened and long-stroked BCG with titanium FP (8.8oz total)

-JRC 8.5" buffer tube

-V Seven Weapons Systems titanium castle nut and end plate (more on this later)

The buffer system is comprised of:

-Neverwear Warthog spring

-Two 25mm X 10mm cylindrical N52 magnets

-0.1" and 0.2" thick 3D printed TPU spacers as shown (to adjust stroke length and cushion the magnets)

-Standard carbine buffer body with 932 bronze buffer weights (one cut slightly short to replicate the internal sliding length of a Vltor A5 buffer). Total weight was 3.19oz.

The ammo used for testing was:

158gr RNFP with 4.0gr CFE Pistol, 935fps

The mags used for testing were printed clones of the CMMG mags.

The buffer system makes use of Lenz's law which basically states that a changing magnetic field (caused by the movement of the magnets) induces an eddy current in a conductor (the aluminum buffer tube) that opposes the movement of the magnets.

It is important to note that this effect is completely separate from magnetic attraction and repulsion. Unlike the Miculek magnetic buffer, this system does utilize any movement between the magnets themselves, nor does it arrange them with same poles facing each other in order to make them repel.

The end result of this system is that the reciprocating mass is slowed during both the rearward and forward strokes of the BCG. Because of this, I opted to stop using the Tubb 300BO spring that I had used for early testing, because I find that it was too weak to reliably push the BCG into battery with the eddy currents slowing it down. I ended up replacing it with a Neverwear Warthog.

After having broken two hydraulic buffers, I decided that I wanted to stop using them. Early testing included some tests of a RB5007 with various magnet configurations placed in front of it, but I found that the magnetic force would cause the plunger to stick in the depressed position, which certainly wasn't ideal anyways.

After ditching the hydraulic buffer, I switched to a standard carbine buffer. I felt that it was necessary to preserve the dead blow functionality of the sliding weights, even if it meant I couldn't get the reciprocating mass down as low as I wanted. The first problem that I noticed with that was the fact that the internal sliding weights, whether made of steel or tungsten, would be attracted to the magnets, preventing them from sliding freely and functioning as intended. The solution was to fabricate some 932 bronze weights which have both low conductivity and magnetic permeability, and therefore do not interact with the magnets. I also tested some aluminum weights in the interest of making the reciprocating mass as light as I could, but I ended up sticking with three bronze weights for reasons that I will show below.

Another issue I had to address was the fact that the magnets would be attracted to the castle nut and end plate, which were both made of steel. This wasn't a huge problem, but I noticed that I would experience occasional short strokes (at least with my subsonic 158gr ammo), which I suspected were caused by the added resistance on the BCG by the magnets trying to stick to these parts. After replacing the castle nut and end plate with titanium versions, I no longer had these short strokes.

So how does the end result shoot? Pretty damn great if I do say so myself. The recoil feels exceptionally soft with very little sight disruption. Reliability has been perfect in the 1000+ rounds I've fired since setting up this final configuration.

I also have ROF data for those who are interested in FRTs, DIASes, M16 lowers, and such.

With the 3.19oz buffer described above, NO MAGNETS, and a 1.24" long solid steel weight with the same cross section as a Kynshot spacer weight. This setup had a total reciprocating mass of 16.14oz, and did 789 RPM.

As another point of reference, I have data with a RB5007 buffer with standard carbine spring and no other weights or magnets, which resulted in 14.8oz total reciprocating mass, and 723 RPM.

Below are the results with the two magnet stack described earlier:

With one bronze weight and two aluminum ones, the buffer weighed 2.2oz, total reciprocating mass was 13.45oz, and ROF was 670 RPM.

With two bronze weights and one aluminum weight, the buffer weighed 2.76oz, total reciprocating mass was 14.01oz, and ROF was 640 RPM.

In the final configuration with 3 bronze weights, the buffer weighed 3.19oz, total reciprocating mass was 14.44oz, and ROF was 616 RPM.


r/AR9 1d ago

You wanna get nuts?! Let's get nuts!!

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138 Upvotes

See comments for more detail


r/AR9 1d ago

AR-9 Build

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r/AR9 1d ago

AR9 Intermittent FTF issues with JHPs

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I have a Spike’s Tactical Glock-mag straight-blowback AR9. Originally it had a 3” Spike’s barrel and would consistently have feeding issues with Federal 147gr HST JHPs. Round-nose FMJ ran fine, but the HST would frequently hit the feed area and go nose-up.

I took it to Spike’s and they tested it with FMJ (round nose) and said the gun itself was cycling correctly and believed the issue was ammunition/projectile geometry.

I replaced the 3” barrel with a Ballistic Advantage 4.5” EPC barrel with the enhanced feed cone, specifically because it’s designed to improve JHP/flat-point feeding. That made a huge difference. The gun now runs extremely well with JHPs. I’ve put roughly 400 rounds through it with only one FTF during actual live fire.

The strange issue I’m still seeing is when initially chambering the first round. Occasionally when I lock the bolt back and release it at full speed, the first HST won’t feed/chamber correctly. Once the gun is firing, it cycles normally. I initially thought it correlated with a completely full magazine, but after more testing it’s inconsistent. Sometimes 10 rounds feeds fine, sometimes full feeds fine, and it seems like somewhere around 15–20 rounds can cause it, but it’s too inconsistent for me to confidently blame magazine spring pressure.

My gunsmith tried Hornady Critical Duty 135gr FlexLock standard pressure, and those chambered/cycled fine. But he only ran a mag through. The Federal 147 HST seems more sensitive even though its OAL (~1.125”) is actually shorter than the Hornady 135 FlexLock (~1.140”), so I’m wondering if this is more about ogive/nose geometry and how the cartridge presents from the Glock magazine than OAL.

Current recoil setup is a Spike’s ST-9X 9mm heavy buffer (~7.7 oz) with a standard mil-spec carbine spring. I’m considering trying a Tubb AR-15 carbine flatwire spring because it provides more force toward the bolt-closed end of travel without going to a .308-strength spring.

Has anyone experienced an AR9 that runs almost perfectly during live fire but intermittently fails to feed the first manually chambered JHP? Particularly interested in experiences with HST, Glock-mag AR9s, EPC enhanced-feed-cone barrels, or changing recoil spring force.

I've uploaded photos of the before and after of the barrel, the before and after of ejector, and some videos of the issues. Saturday I put 400 rounds through it and that was my only malfunction. The initial failure to chamber and the one fail to feed after that.

Here is my complete setup:

Upper: 9mm 3” Barrel W/ 7” BAR 2 Rail

Bolt Carrier Group: Spike’s Tactical 9mm BCG

Lower: ST 9mm Spider Stripped Lower Receiver, Glock Mag

Optic: Holosun AEMS PRO X2 Red

Pistol Brace: SB Tactical SBA5 5-Position Adjustable Rifle Brace

Tactical Light: Streamlight ProTac 1L-X

Lower Parts Kit: Spike’s Tactical Standard Lower Parts Kit, No Fire Control Group/Trigger, Black, SLPK100

Buffer: Spike’s Tactical ST-9X 9mm Heavy Buffer, SLA009X

Spring: Spike’s Tactical Buffer Spring Mil-Spec, 17-7 Stainless Steel, Electro Polish Finish, SLA501S

Buffer Tube: Spike’s Tactical Mil-Spec Buffer Tube, 6-Position, 7075-T6 Aluminum, SLA500R

Trigger: CMC Triggers AR-15/AR-10 9mm PCC Single-Stage Drop-In Trigger, Tactical Flat, 3.5 lb Pull, Black, 95503

Charging Handle: Breek Arms AR-15 Warhammer Mod2 Micro Ambidextrous Charging Handle

Suppressor: AB F-4L

Foregrip: A3 Industries Slimline Picatinny Angled Foregrip, AFG-112

Magazines: 4 Glock Gen5 33-Round Magazines

Light Mount: Arisaka Defense Offset Scout Mount for Picatinny, OSM-P


r/AR9 1d ago

Noob

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So I am interested in this style of "PDW"? now. Extar first caught my eye with the EP9.

What are all of the other sub 1k options of similar style/complete build? If any... I am very confused by all of these upper/lowers etc. I only have experience with shotguns, and my bodyguard 2.0 handgun.


r/AR9 1d ago

Screwed up my new Banshee!!

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Suppressor came in…swapping out the handguard and didn’t realize the clam shell upper clamp was no good on these uppers!! After buttoning everything up, torquing the barrel nut, bcg gets stuck before it gets to the ejection port!!! Looks like I need to buy a new upper! But…it has the fixed ejector…no one has them! UGH!!!!!


r/AR9 2d ago

Rate the build

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First Ar-9 build, was going for retro with modern optic and lighting


r/AR9 1d ago

PSA lower compatibility

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This lower says it's designed for PSA's hybrid uppers but does anyone know if it would work with other uppers? Looking specifically at an Odinworks upper.
https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-px-9-forged-complete-glockr-style-moe-ept-lower.html


r/AR9 2d ago

The BBD, now BIGGER! (Big Bolt Database of 9mm bolts)

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Here you go! All the stats I've collected on a wide variety of 9mm bolts. Added Toolcraft and Stern Defense. Just finished filling in the blanks this afternoon with all the firing pin stats.

Which ones am I missing?

Many of the very popular ones come from the same OEMs with slightly different finishes and components. I've marked the potential OEM where appropriate. Outerwild and IDL are two of the big OEMs that I'm aware of.


r/AR9 2d ago

PSA AR-V Essentials Kit Build

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26 Upvotes

r/AR9 2d ago

Eye Candy The gangs all here

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64 Upvotes

All:
Spider tactical ar9G lowers
Dead air Keymo muzzle devices
SB braces
Vortex red dots

The far right is a take down upper (cry havoc tactical QRB) and law tactical folder.


r/AR9 2d ago

Troubleshooting How screwed is my Anderson lower?

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I guess since Anderson closed the doors this isn't going to end well. Went to the range today and after a mag change my LRBHO failed. I narrowed it down to the rod going from the bolt catch and mag follower catch. The roll pin is good in the mag catch because I was move it from the inside outward so it is whole. I think the rod represented by the white is it broken. Has anyone ever taken one of these apart to replace? TIA

Build list- OEM AR-9 Anderson lower


r/AR9 2d ago

Troubleshooting Excessive ejector wobble

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I am using a KAK AR-15 to Colt smg magazine adapter and the ejector on the adapter has a noticeable amount of wobble and movement in it. Surprisingly, it hasn't affected reliability or anything that I can notice, but I'm not sure if this is normal for this style of adapter, or if I just got something that didn't pass qc lol

https://reddit.com/link/1w2qvwo/video/uygchh34dkmh1/player


r/AR9 3d ago

Saint pistol PDW I’m hooked

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63 Upvotes

Shot about 70 rounds after the zero. Lubed per suggestion from Blowback9. No hiccups with 115 or 147 grain fmj. It is factory minus Strike Industries Ambi handle and Sig green dot. Next upgrades are Holosun ARO, flow thru supressor and setting up a gentle recoil system. Suggestions on triggers. I intend to keep it semi auto


r/AR9 3d ago

New Gun Day

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49 Upvotes

CMMG Banshee 5 inch , Free Bird 36 coming soon.


r/AR9 3d ago

Roller/Bearing Delay BM9

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44 Upvotes

Bridage BM9, rave 140 trigger, maxim rdb buffer, Atrius FRS, YHM R9, Amazon special tough soul LAM (actual kinda decent) sig msr gen r green dot 2 moa, clone unity mount 1.93. I’ve got around 4k rounds with this setup. It’s been working great. Had about 8 lights strikes but that was while using cheap academy steel case. I honestly hate the look of Glock mag lowers but this functions quite well. Let see those frt suppressed build boys! And what parts you guys running to get those builds running correctly?