r/askmath • u/United_Pace2109 • 1d ago
Calculus Better answer to this math problem?
| x | f(x) |
|---|---|
| 1.9 | 0.8 |
| 1.99 | 0.85 |
| 1.999 | 0.9 |
| 1.9999 | 0.95 |
| 2.0001 | 0.95 |
| 2.001 | 0.9 |
| 2.01 | 0.85 |
| 2.1 | 0.8 |
According to the table, can you infer about f(x)?
The options were lim_{x→2} f(x) = 1, lim_{x→2} f(x) = ∞, lim_{x→10} f(x) = ∞, lim_{x→10} f(x) = 2.
Obviously, the given table matches the function f(x)=0.75-0.05*log10(|2-x|). One of my friends had the same thought process, so they picked the second choice. I knew that the teacher wanted us to choose the first one, so I did.
According to the teacher, the correct answer was the first one, but I feel that it isn't fair that my friend didn't get points. We tried to argue, but she wouldn't give the points.
Is it my friend's problem or the teacher's problem that he lost points on that problem?
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u/BadJimo 23h ago
Chose your battles wisely.
It seems that the teacher is unlikely to change her position regardless of arguments/evidence, so probably best to let it go.
If you do pursue a deeper understanding of the question/answer, then just ask what the function f(x) is. You will probably get the response "that was not the question, so it is irrelevant", at which point there is no point continuing the conversation.
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u/Gold_Ad8890 22h ago
it's impossible to tell. there are literally uncountably many functions passing through all those points, each with completely different behavior between them.
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u/Bounded_sequencE 18h ago edited 18h ago
According to the table, can you infer about f(x)?
Nothing.
The function "f" can have any behavior between data points. If the teacher truly believes you can infer otherwise from the data, they should not be teaching.
That said, realistically these types of people will likely not be open to mathematical arguments. It is sad that in current day and age, we still have to deal with such BS.
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u/Nanachi1023 10h ago
Short answer : None
Limits cannot be inferred through a finite number of points, there is no limit for 10 or 100 or 1000000 points.
Any teacher that is somewhat competent to teach high school math will not consider this a suitable problem.
Just tell your friend he stepped on dog poop, move on.
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u/Varlane 1d ago
The second one is the correct answer.
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u/flipwhip3 4h ago
Obviously other posts are true : you can’t mathematically prove limit here. But extrapolation of the data points seems to imply: every time you add another 9 to the tail of the input it adds 0.5 to the output. This means infinity is a plausible guess
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u/Temporary_Pie2733 23h ago
Yeah, it’s growing pretty fast for the limit to be “only” 2, aside from the fact that a simple table will always be ambiguous.
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u/soundoftwilight 1d ago
The only correct answer is "you cannot infer anything about the limit of this function at 2 from the information provided." This feels like the kind of problem I was shown as a trick in high school to illustrate why graphing out individual values of a function is not an acceptable method to analyze the function. (There are statistical tools which deal with "how do I construct a function given a set of values" but those are both beyond the scope of a class that's teaching about limits and also require you to make assumptions about the shape of the function you expect).