r/civ5 19h ago

Discussion Map Settings for shitty spawns

Hey everyone,

so my friend and I have been wanting to generate a map where we spawn somewhere where the start is going to be somewhat difficult like in a lot of desert, or a very small island with few resources etc

Is there anything in the Game or Map settings we can alter to make it as likely as possible?

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u/quite-so-quite-so 17h ago

Use the advanced settings to disable start bias and set resources to sparse, then pick a civ with some kind of terrain preference and see that terrain just not be given to you. Set the world to hot and dry for more desert. Either set the world to younger for more mountains and hills or older for even more flat empty desert depending on which of those you think is crappier to deal with. Disable ancient ruins to really rub it in, and greatly increase the number of city-states to reduce available real estate. Finally, turn on raging barbarians and set the map to an archipelago: barbarian camps out on the ocean will generate such a density of ships as to lock down exploration and travel until you invest a lot more into it than usual. Also play a civ that has no particular bonuses from maritime situations, just to really salt the wound. Alternatively, you could go with fractal instead if you’d prefer not having to sail everywhere, with the trade-off being a constant stream of land barbarians stalking the fog. Finally, turn on random personalities so you can’t get a bead on the CPUs and turn off Time victory so you play with the dreadful knowledge that no one leaves until someone pulls through the hard way.

The only way to make it more annoying and harrowing is to turn on combat animations while you’re at it.

Of course you just asked for the start to be a little difficult, so just mix-and-match from that list of stuff until you find the sweet spot you’re looking for.

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u/Nikos5656 16h ago

thanks will have that in mind

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u/unclejoe1917 17h ago

This reminds me of a start someone posted in the last couple or few days where it was a single tile island. They didn't save the start iirc, but it'd be cool if there is a place where people can drop either ridiculously good or bad starts so people can use them, if it doesn't already exist. 

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u/Nikos5656 16h ago

that's what reminded me of the idea with my friend and we started looking into this.

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u/Shoddy-Minute5960 19h ago

You can change the resource settings to sparse, or make the world colder and wetter for more tundra, or hot and dry for desert. Archipelago map will get you a small island start normally.

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u/Nikos5656 16h ago

that's a good idea, thanks

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u/[deleted] 18h ago

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u/WhiteoutDota 17h ago

Are you in the wrong subreddit

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u/Tomislav1 Science Victory 10h ago

There's a mod called "really advanced settings" or something similar to that, and I believe you can strongly dictate the start for each civ.

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u/ElonMoosk Liberty 8h ago

Play as Japan. Seems to guarantee a terrible spawn every time for me.