r/coins 16h ago

ID Request Help needed

Hello everyone,

I recently purchased this Dutch Provincial 6 Stuiver (Scheepjesschelling) coin. It originates from the Holland/West-Friesland district and was minted in the year 1755. The reverse bears the text 'Vigilate deo confidentis'. The coin weighs 4.7 grams.

So far, nothing unusual before I started doing further research. The fact is that the combination of the specific year and the text on the reverse does not appear in any coin catalog i've seen so far. However, 1754 does appear in combination with the text on the reverse. Is there anyone who can help me further and knows more about this coin? Is this rare, and can anyone estimate its value?

I've attached photos of both sides. Any help from someone familiar with Dutch provincial coinage would be greatly appreciated!

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u/SuSsuSaMoHuS 14h ago

This is 1735 re-engraved as 1755.

Considering the type of damage, it once had a blob of solder right on the date which completely damaged it.
The repairer probably didn't have enough visual data and re-interpreted the date as 1755, be it with good or ill intentions.

Another sign is that the ship's design matching examples from 1735 and not dates closer to 1755 (i.e. 1754)

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u/SuSsuSaMoHuS 14h ago

1735, collection NNC

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u/SuSsuSaMoHuS 14h ago

1754, Katz auctions

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u/SuSsuSaMoHuS 14h ago

Notice the top flag being more dramatically wavy on the 1754, and the stern's proportions.
The lion on the stern is smaller on the 1734 than the 1754. Your lion is the same in proportion as the 1734.

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u/gextyr A little bit of everything. 16h ago

That year isn't in my Standard Catalog of World Coins 1701-1800. To be honest, the area around the date looks like it might have repaired damage/tooling - which could explain it. Or, the catalog could be wrong - it happens quite frequently.

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u/bassmaster422 15h ago

From my limited understanding of Dutch coins, the single lion on the shield represents Holland, but the legend on that side says it's a West Friesland coin, which should have two lions on the shield. I think the most likely explanation is that it's a contemporary counterfeit. Are the specs on it correct?

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u/Belgium1418 15h ago

Not a contemporary forgery. Looks genuine to me. Just a bit damaged, corroded and cleaned.

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u/Austrolopithecus-59 45m ago

The writing says “… HOLL. ET WESTFRI.”, which would represent “Holland and Westfriesland” in Latin .

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