I'm not kidding when I was told the other day that's its healthier to have bacon and eggs every single day, rather than a single bowl of OATMEAL because protein good and carbs bad
Like nothing wrong with some protein or being pro teen, but there has to be moderation. Plus bagels rule
It's honestly what all the ultra thinness comes from. When I was at the height of my eating disorder, the damage I was doing to my body ultimately mimicked a more pre-pubescent body. Losing curves, hair falling out, no period, less emotionally stable. It didn't even occur to me until I was in treatment how much my disorder was sexualized by people who knew I was sick.
You can see it, as well, as eating disorders extend to teen boys and men. They're encouraged to be hairless, immature, and to take supplements and hormones that cause genital shrinkage, hair loss, higher voices and in teenagers shorter stature. The lack of balanced nutrition makes them emotionally unstable much like in puberty as well.
This stuff is even mentioned in the e-files (I'm trying not to trigger bot responses to the word lol). It's gross and sad, and carried on by people like thiel and musk
I think it depends on the type of pro teen you are. I am pro teen in the way that I support proper education and would like them to grow up to live productive and fulfilling lives. And then there's our president...
My child recently started playing football, I've been making him dinners intended to support this changed lifestyle (balanced but with extra emphasis on Protein, fats, and Carbs) he asked me the other day why I keep making him eat pastas and stuff like that cause apparently some YouTube person told him carbs kill athletes.
I had to sit him down and explain essentially all fundamentals of Biology. I sometimes wonder if I'm failing...
This video about the Nate Diaz vs Conner McGregor fight. Would be a good lesson for your son. McGregor was a protein all day every day kind of guy and got beaten by a vegan who was able to outlast him with all the carbs he was eating.
If you absolutely hate being sane, go diving into food and diet YouTube. For every 1 sane person giving practical and healthy advice theres like 12 suggesting if you eat anything other than chicken you raised yourself in a perfectly sterile environment than you're eating literal poison and killing yourself with chemicals.
Liver King is one example of thousands just like him. And some are even worse in their advice.
Gotcha. Makes sense now.
I’m one of those people who has a body that is not a fan of carbs and so I see where they’re coming from but I find it wild that some people think there’s one specific way of eating that is healthiest for everyone.
I wasn’t getting enough carbs and it was causing me anxiety and sleep disruptions as my body increased stress hormones to stabilize my blood sugar during recovery.
My doctor has me eating some more carbs but still less than the typical “recommended”.
I’ve found for myself I don’t need a lot of carbs for energy, but I do need them during growth.
It depends on how active you are, thinking and exercise wise. You could genuinely need the extra oomph of the bacon and eggs. I would enter a calory defeceit if I only ate oatmeal
Different strokes for different folks i guess. I've tried tons of different diets over the years but the all protein diet was the first one that actually worked for me. Nothing but unseasoned meat, cheese, eggs and dairy products for 4 months and I lost half my gut. Didn't really lose much weight though as j had so much energy I started going to the gym regularly and turned it into muscle
Nope. No bread either and I cut back on sugar too. Cut soda and tea out completely started drinking nothing but low calorie water additives. Ive slowly phased back non protein foods now because meals start tasting like death after a while but for several months it was an apple, protein bar, or eggs in the morning, meat and cheese or skip for lunch, and meat and cheese for dinner
That's kind of something that's been lost. You need a balanced diet to not only live but thrive. Like you should not cut anything out of your diet unless your body physically cannot process it (ie lactose intolerance, diabetes or celiacs). I have weird anatomy due to bunch of circumstances but I work hard to eat as balanced a diet as I can and I'm weirdly very healthy.
If you are in california, that's not an accident, the californian limits for everything and the warnings are so sensitive as to be essentially meaningless and creating a tendency for the consumer to simply ignore it.
There isn't a very concerning amount of lead in those products.
You know what has more lead per serving ? Things like spinach, brassicas and all kinds of seeds.
Yeah, colon cancer is killing millennials because we don't get enough fiber from our shitty diets. I get tortillas that have extra fiber and Fiber One brownies. I know more natural fiber is better but it's a start.
I’ve been using whey protein since I was a teenager. It was a cheat-code to staying slim- it’s so satiating. I genuinely think this trend is good. Also protein pancakes / other supplemented wheat products are GREAT. They give an otherwise carb filled buncha flour some body/substance. Pancakes needed protein we just didn’t know it.
it’s because the food’s quality gone downhill and the problem created by upper mgmt opened the door for the development of a solution that can be monetized for profit 🙃
It's just a diet trend. As someone doing active strength training, I love it because it makes it so much easier to hit my protein goals. It's also helpful when trying to lose weight because protein generally helps you feel full longer, especially for people who tend to break their calorie goals by snacking
Totally agree that it’s gotten a bit silly- HOWEVER
I’m really glad they are making all these protien snacks because my sister is like chronically underweight and has 0 appetite and these protein pop tarts and things might be the only way she’s growing at all
Has she tested for celiac? One silent celiac effect is slowing growth! A kid I know suddenly gained weight and got taller after getting diagnosed and cutting gluten!
Similarly, as a pretty serious weight lifter I do enjoy being able to eat a lot more shitty food.
Sometimes it's a bit ridiculous, like a high protein flan, it's egg and milk, you can't make it low protein.
But you don't need the 2g of protein per kilo or whatever nonsense if you aren't a very active trainer, hell, even if you are, you the studies only show that there is no improvement to muscle synthesis after that threshold, not that you cant get 95% of protein synthesis eating half.
I'm in a similar boat here. With food/groceries getting more expensive, it's hard to eat enough on blue collar wages when you're working it all off. Boosting my regular rice and bean diet with protein shakes is how I stay alive
They should be, but that's just intelligent marketing.
Right now protein is the "in" thing, marketing that your product has protein (keep in mind the general American populace essentially shares a single brain cell) will draw more people in to purchase it, even if you've changed nothing about the product at all.
When protein becomes the "out" thing, they'll drop the ad and the product will still remain unchanged.
I knew a guy who tried Keto (probably bc it was going around his church) to drop some weight, but his doctor told him he now had the out-of-control cholesterol of an 80yo.
There's the current theory that the reason we are seeing so many of these protein "added" (some products claim they have added protein but have not increased the protein amount) products is because of medications like Ozempic. Apparently when you're on them you need to increase your protein intake quite a bit.
My diabetes dietitian recommends a number of high-protein foods like these to me (T1D) because they can make my glucose management easier. I feel like this is another instance of a trend being helpful for a specific community, like when people went gluten-free for basically no good reason but it helped make more GF products available for people with celiac disease and gluten intolerance
I'm overjoyed with those products. As a chronically underweight guy and avid gym-goer who still has trouble hitting my protein goals, these are pure lifesavers.
I eat shit all the time. Catching up with calories with a $1.5 croissant is easy. In the past, there were no "protein cheat foods", now there are.
I understand these are not supposed to appeal to the whole wide market, no product is. But apparently they appeal to enough people, so fuck yeah
I need 144g and they are super easy to get. Like, just eating regularly I get that amount, I don’t get why people want all these protein reinforced foods. Your body will not absorb all this
Fiber means eating legumes, whole grains, whole fruits, vegetables and leafy greens. Maybe you can sprinkle in some extra seeds and Psyllium husks.
It's fine if it it's added to processed products, but it won't be enough compared to what you need at a minimum.
I mean, it could be popular, but it would take a lot of promotion and there's no really "Big Industry" behind it that has much to gain, like there is behind animal foods, fast foods, junk foods and "health foods."
Most of the "miracle nutrient" marketing is based, as is typical in capitalism, on selling something scarce. Even if we're talking about whole plants, they try to sell you on exotic stuff that's scarce and expensive. Meanwhile... your average cabbage and apple are insanely healthful. When's the last time you saw an ad for cabbage?
34 g per day is a good start. The recommendations for the minimums are generally mediocre and should be heavily increased. Aim for 100 g/day, but not tomorrow... it needs to be a slow step, maybe +1 per week.
You seem to have found something rare if it's true.
The carbsmart tortillas are extremely common and can be found in any major grocer. There are a ton of groceries that are fortified with fiber, including breads and other grain-based products.
100g of fiber a day sounds insane and I don’t feel like shitting my pants everyday when the daily intake for a grown woman is ~25g.
I have no idea where you’re getting your information from but it sounds like weird TikTok health-influencer stuff. I’ll continue to do as my doctor recommends.
Interesting ingredients. I don't have anything against cellulose, but let's say that it could be better.
The 25g you mentioned are the minimum, not the goal. Your doctor probably has low expectations or a poor nutrition education (unfortunately, very common.) Yes, in the US, most (average) are way under the minimum.
Idk protein soda sounds stupid but after a minute I realize its kinda genius. Sugar free and has a useful nutrient. As long as it tastes decent it's actually something I wanna try. Just gotta find it
I don't get why people need protein in everything. I easily get to my protein goals and above without the stuff. Well, I do drink protein shakes, but I feel like those don't count because they're kinda normal by now, no?
Im gonna go with the rise of bodybuilding and fitness culture.
Apparently theres also another phenomenon where in culteral upheavals/economic stress, traditional gender roles and their associated images get reinforced(big strong muscley man, and slim
but shapely women), guess what you have to do to get those physiques?
The fact that you think drinking a protein shake is normal just shows how normalized its become within thr past couple years.
It used to be the only people drinking shakes for protein were actual serious athletes or body builders, not your mom who maybe does a pilates or yoga class once a week or a random office worker who doesn't even work out.
half of my class are gym goers and every single one of them drink protein shakes, I don't know if they do it daily but like, it doesn't take a genius to draw a conclusion here.
Its funny if it's stuff that's already protein so they just write it on for marketing. Like protein cheese/yogurt. Reminds me of things like air fryer fries or chicken wings when it's just rebranded priced up regular things
Oh this whole protein craze is just marketing really. In response to GLP-1, the most commonly covered drug on company health plans, businesses are rebranding shit as "GLP-1 friendly" and "high in protein" because you eat a lot less on a GLP-1 and these companies have been pushing that protein keeps you fuller longer to try and get people to continue to buy their products. Sure some items do have more protein but youll just piss most of it out at the end of the day because your body doesnt need that much.
I'm just glad for the trend because my elderly parents would be happy to just subsist on carbs and fat and the protein added bagels are silly but they taste decent.
As someone who loves working out, it’s almost impossible to get proper protein intake. Most gym bros are wrong about necessary protein intake. They’ll say you need 1.5 grams of protein for every pound you weigh (sorry non American bros, i don’t what that’d be under kilograms). When it comes to intense workouts, the more protein and carbohydrates the better. However, your body can only digest so much protein at a time. Gym bros on message boards are trying to push that this is a myth, so I said fuck their opinions and went to a dietician.
Essentially, you’ll be lucky to digest 30-40 grams of protein at a time. What matters is consistency. 30-40 grams every 2 hours is what will really make the biggest difference. I’m not as intense these days as when I was a teen. I used to set alarms every 2 hours, even waking up in the middle of the night several times to down some boiled eggs.
All these protein foods are annoying I’m sure, but having some variety makes that kinda workout so much easier. Boiled eggs, sausage, and oatmeal everyday gets old. Sometimes I don’t have time to prepare a meal for my protein intake. Snacks make it easy.
i appreciate it because i have avoidant restrictive food intake disorder and pain that makes it difficult to cook, and whey protein can improve the flavor of things. i do wish more things had fiber too though. Goodles pasta is pretty yummy, its enriched
High protein usually means higher carbohydrates. Offsetting the added protein ingredients by adding more sugars does nothing for the average consumer.
Another marketing gimmick to justify a higher price point on processed foods.
I'm trying to avoid carbs and refined sugars and certain protein bars and chips and jerky are some of the best snacks for my diet. I found that Aloha bars have high protein and fiber and actually taste good to me. I just make sure to eat plenty of fiber and drink plenty of water.
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The protein craze is weird. A year ago everything said whole grains and how much fiber it had. Now everything says protein. Protein doesn’t really make me feel full and I know I got more than enough prior to the protein craze.
Protein is literally just a fad companies use to make stuff more expensive. They can add a cent of extra production cost to add some protein, so they can charge double for the same product with a “protein” label on it
In the Netherlands, they literally have protein chocolate milk, big advertising push and everything, trying to paint it as a fucking sports drink.
It’s just preying on consumers that just think anything with protein on it is healthy. Most people get enough proteins per day, you don’t need supplements unless you’re a special case. It does NOTHING, but because most consumers dont know that, companies just charge double for that garbage
Yep, it's a marketing gimmick; the (first?) peak of the current keto-carnivore fad. Part of the problem is that there's a lot more science and science news, so people have gotten used to talking about "macros" and "nutrients", and the marketing has kept up. This is not a linear phenomenon.
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I now have semantic satiation and protein doesn't look like a real word anymore.